How hard is it to find a decent Cayman R??
Discussion
mrdemon said:
correct no PCM or sports mode or leather or Bose so bloody expensive with those missing.
yes a rarer colour, but imo that's for a good reason, it's blue !!!
white, red or peridot are the colours to have imo and look good with the black detailing the R has , but red seems also a slow seller, even though that's what I started out looking for and think it looks great in red.
White and Peridot are no question the fastest sellers. Peridot being marmite I guess but works well, but then White is marmite these days.
wonder how much a SVP 3.7/3.9 engine rebuild would cost in my R instead of going for a GT4, the steering really is a worry in this GT4after driving the GTS models.
White is my preferred colour but would buy a Peridot or Red car.yes a rarer colour, but imo that's for a good reason, it's blue !!!
white, red or peridot are the colours to have imo and look good with the black detailing the R has , but red seems also a slow seller, even though that's what I started out looking for and think it looks great in red.
White and Peridot are no question the fastest sellers. Peridot being marmite I guess but works well, but then White is marmite these days.
wonder how much a SVP 3.7/3.9 engine rebuild would cost in my R instead of going for a GT4, the steering really is a worry in this GT4after driving the GTS models.
The only red car on the market currently was owned by Porsche for the first 18 months of it's life and Googling the reg brought up lots of pics of it being thrashed around the PEC at Silverstone and also in a load of online car review articles as a test car.....not the sort of history I'm looking for which might explains why it's down from £42,995 to £37,995 now........
Sarnie said:
White is my preferred colour but would buy a Peridot or Red car.
The only red car on the market currently was owned by Porsche for the first 18 months of it's life and Googling the reg brought up lots of pics of it being thrashed around the PEC at Silverstone and also in a load of online car review articles as a test car.....not the sort of history I'm looking for which might explains why it's down from £42,995 to £37,995 now........
The other school of thought on a manufacturer owned car is that it will have been meticulously maintained to ensure it is at its full potential for any magazine etc. Could be worth a look at, you may be pleasantly surprised by what you find or of course you may not.The only red car on the market currently was owned by Porsche for the first 18 months of it's life and Googling the reg brought up lots of pics of it being thrashed around the PEC at Silverstone and also in a load of online car review articles as a test car.....not the sort of history I'm looking for which might explains why it's down from £42,995 to £37,995 now........
J12KJR said:
The other school of thought on a manufacturer owned car is that it will have been meticulously maintained to ensure it is at its full potential for any magazine etc. Could be worth a look at, you may be pleasantly surprised by what you find or of course you may not.
I agree. Those PEC cars are very well maintained, probably better than most other privately owned cars you'll find - and I wouldn't regard them as having been thrashed either to be honest but they are regularly checked and serviced whilst in their stewardship. I'd rather know that than have an owner for 2 years that you're a) not entirely sure how they drove it and b) not entirely sure how they looked after it. Most Cayman Rs about will have been owned by Porsche for while first as they were hanging around as dealer specced cars - make whatever assumption you want there also and who was driving it.
J12KJR said:
The other school of thought on a manufacturer owned car is that it will have been meticulously maintained to ensure it is at its full potential for any magazine etc. Could be worth a look at, you may be pleasantly surprised by what you find or of course you may not.
Other people have said the same.I've been to see this car and whilst it seems to be fully loaded and looks nice, there were/are a large number of stone chips to the bonnet/bumper. There is a fairly significant chip/scratch on the rear quarter panel.
The car was registered March 2011 I think, with the first service not being carried out until August 2014, my understanding is that that service was done 18 months late....
The dealer tried to explain it away saying that the previous owner bought the car from Porsche in Aug 2012 and therefore he serviced in two years later, only weeks before selling it......
The mileage is actually 22k not 21k, not a huge issue but in combination with the above plus it being a PEC car, was enough for me to want to spend the money elsewhere....
Sarnie said:
Other people have said the same.
I've been to see this car and whilst it seems to be fully loaded and looks nice, there were/are a large number of stone chips to the bonnet/bumper. There is a fairly significant chip/scratch on the rear quarter panel.
The car was registered March 2011 I think, with the first service not being carried out until August 2014, my understanding is that that service was done 18 months late....
The dealer tried to explain it away saying that the previous owner bought the car from Porsche in Aug 2012 and therefore he serviced in two years later, only weeks before selling it......
The mileage is actually 22k not 21k, not a huge issue but in combination with the above plus it being a PEC car, was enough for me to want to spend the money elsewhere....
In fairness, that would put me off also, a missing service is not great. Stonechips are also not unusual but a bit off-putting. having said that it's the cheaper end of the R marker by the looks of it...horse for courses as they say. I've been to see this car and whilst it seems to be fully loaded and looks nice, there were/are a large number of stone chips to the bonnet/bumper. There is a fairly significant chip/scratch on the rear quarter panel.
The car was registered March 2011 I think, with the first service not being carried out until August 2014, my understanding is that that service was done 18 months late....
The dealer tried to explain it away saying that the previous owner bought the car from Porsche in Aug 2012 and therefore he serviced in two years later, only weeks before selling it......
The mileage is actually 22k not 21k, not a huge issue but in combination with the above plus it being a PEC car, was enough for me to want to spend the money elsewhere....
Did you go and see the one at Paragon?
Beanoir said:
In fairness, that would put me off also, a missing service is not great. Stonechips are also not unusual but a bit off-putting. having said that it's the cheaper end of the R marker by the looks of it...horse for courses as they say.
Did you go and see the one at Paragon?
The car is NOW the lower end of the market but when I saw it a month ago it was £40,995 and they didn't seem too interested in doing a deal at the time.Did you go and see the one at Paragon?
I've not seen the Paragon car. It looks great but no PSE or Porsche Warranty currently plus the fairly high price (think there are only 2 higher priced cars advertised online) is what stopped me going to see it.....I'd go all the way up to £45k for a fully loaded, low mile car with two years Porsche warranty but it seems that that either doesn't exist or I'd have to wait till maybe the summer when people are offloading them potentially, for GT4's, but I'm impatient and can't wait that long!!
Sarnie said:
The car is NOW the lower end of the market but when I saw it a month ago it was £40,995 and they didn't seem too interested in doing a deal at the time.
I've not seen the Paragon car. It looks great but no PSE or Porsche Warranty currently plus the fairly high price (think there are only 2 higher priced cars advertised online) is what stopped me going to see it.....I'd go all the way up to £45k for a fully loaded, low mile car with two years Porsche warranty but it seems that that either doesn't exist or I'd have to wait till maybe the summer when people are offloading them potentially, for GT4's, but I'm impatient and can't wait that long!!
If you wait that long I suspect you'll be paying more for the example you want also. I've not seen the Paragon car. It looks great but no PSE or Porsche Warranty currently plus the fairly high price (think there are only 2 higher priced cars advertised online) is what stopped me going to see it.....I'd go all the way up to £45k for a fully loaded, low mile car with two years Porsche warranty but it seems that that either doesn't exist or I'd have to wait till maybe the summer when people are offloading them potentially, for GT4's, but I'm impatient and can't wait that long!!
Beanoir said:
If you wait that long I suspect you'll be paying more for the example you want also.
Yeah, there is that too.I'm sure come summer time, people offloading them for GT4's will be wanting £50k for their cars!!
I'm just going to compromise on something, not sure what yet, and buy something next week, I can't wait till next year!
If you are thinking of compromising, have you considered either of these:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
Sarnie said:
J12KJR said:
The other school of thought on a manufacturer owned car is that it will have been meticulously maintained to ensure it is at its full potential for any magazine etc. Could be worth a look at, you may be pleasantly surprised by what you find or of course you may not.
Other people have said the same.I've been to see this car and whilst it seems to be fully loaded and looks nice, there were/are a large number of stone chips to the bonnet/bumper. There is a fairly significant chip/scratch on the rear quarter panel.
The car was registered March 2011 I think, with the first service not being carried out until August 2014, my understanding is that that service was done 18 months late....
The dealer tried to explain it away saying that the previous owner bought the car from Porsche in Aug 2012 and therefore he serviced in two years later, only weeks before selling it......
The mileage is actually 22k not 21k, not a huge issue but in combination with the above plus it being a PEC car, was enough for me to want to spend the money elsewhere....
Good chance that what was done would far outweigh the missed standard service. If it can be seen to have good history backed by Porsche themselves then a bit of paintwork rectification could well be a very small price to pay. Obviously only my thoughts but a bit of time spent investigating things could well pay dividends.
If they have already dropped the price of it because they have had it a while it could also be a good time to try a low ball offer on them.
Trev450 said:
If you are thinking of compromising, have you considered either of these:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
Trev,http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
That red one is the red one I've been talking about in my above posts..........
And that white one has no buckets, no PSE, no particularly low mileage, no Porsche decals and is the most expensive car on the market.........
J12KJR said:
The missing of a service would be a problem however not knowing the Porsche world that well would it be possible to find out what they actually did to the car while it was with them.
Good chance that what was done would far outweigh the missed standard service. If it can be seen to have good history backed by Porsche themselves then a bit of paintwork rectification could well be a very small price to pay. Obviously only my thoughts but a bit of time spent investigating things could well pay dividends.
If they have already dropped the price of it because they have had it a while it could also be a good time to try a low ball offer on them.
Whilst I agree that it could of course been maintained meticulously by Porsche I just don't want to buy a car with the associated history and have to explain away the gap in service history to potential buyers........it didn't take me (who knows hardly anything about Porsche's) to piece the info and dates together and realise it must have been a PEC car and do what I did and Google the reg to unearth pics of it. It's like a new girlfriend, you know she's not a virgin, but you don't want to know everything about her past either Good chance that what was done would far outweigh the missed standard service. If it can be seen to have good history backed by Porsche themselves then a bit of paintwork rectification could well be a very small price to pay. Obviously only my thoughts but a bit of time spent investigating things could well pay dividends.
If they have already dropped the price of it because they have had it a while it could also be a good time to try a low ball offer on them.
Sarnie said:
Trev450 said:
If you are thinking of compromising, have you considered either of these:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
Trev,http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
That red one is the red one I've been talking about in my above posts..........
And that white one has no buckets, no PSE, no particularly low mileage, no Porsche decals and is the most expensive car on the market.........
Sarnie said:
J12KJR said:
The missing of a service would be a problem however not knowing the Porsche world that well would it be possible to find out what they actually did to the car while it was with them.
Good chance that what was done would far outweigh the missed standard service. If it can be seen to have good history backed by Porsche themselves then a bit of paintwork rectification could well be a very small price to pay. Obviously only my thoughts but a bit of time spent investigating things could well pay dividends.
If they have already dropped the price of it because they have had it a while it could also be a good time to try a low ball offer on them.
Whilst I agree that it could of course been maintained meticulously by Porsche I just don't want to buy a car with the associated history and have to explain away the gap in service history to potential buyers........it didn't take me (who knows hardly anything about Porsche's) to piece the info and dates together and realise it must have been a PEC car and do what I did and Google the reg to unearth pics of it. It's like a new girlfriend, you know she's not a virgin, but you don't want to know everything about her past either Good chance that what was done would far outweigh the missed standard service. If it can be seen to have good history backed by Porsche themselves then a bit of paintwork rectification could well be a very small price to pay. Obviously only my thoughts but a bit of time spent investigating things could well pay dividends.
If they have already dropped the price of it because they have had it a while it could also be a good time to try a low ball offer on them.
Which is the one you are looking at?
J12KJR said:
Fully understand your thought process, i guess i just look at it and think that if you get it at the right price if it has been well looked after then the downside come sale time should be minimal.
Which is the one you are looking at?
The red car would have been more of a consideration if my intention was to keep it for a few years, add a few services and iron out the initial history, but I'm intending to keep this car for maybe a year or so, maybe in to early 2016, so the history means a lot really.Which is the one you are looking at?
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