How hard is it to find a decent Cayman R??

[Sarnie]

bcr5784 said:

Lurking and pouncing is definitely the way forward. There are lots of overpriced cars at OPCs and every so often, for reasons that are unclear to me, a dealer will put a car on sale perhaps £5000 less than other cars of a similar spec. I missed one (a low spec 981 S manual with 12k miles) for less than £40k - before I got mine.

I can't comment on other models but with regards to R's it seems that the OPC's are happy to put up low spec cars for £42k-£45k and just sit and wait as they don't need to shift the car in any hurry. Then you have specialist's and Indy's who seem to want to ride the apparent bubble and price their cars similarly but then slash the prices within weeks of being listed as they need to shift cars.

Then, you have other dealers who perhaps know less about what car they have and just see it as a commodity and take it as a PX perhaps, add a few grand and just want to punt it on. You also have private sales from people who have maybe been offered low PX values. These two are where the potential gems are to be bought in my opinion and where I got mine. I wanted to buy an OPC car ideally but just couldn't see the values they were putting on cars, for example the white one with no decals at Sheffield for £42,900 with 22k and the white one with silver wheels with 31k at £41k. Both low spec cars in my opinion and overpriced. God knows what they would actually list a fully loaded low mile car for!

[matjk]

Spec seems to have no effect on price, but obviously effects desirability, the right ones go straight away others hang about, seems the market is keen on buckets, pse and pcm, pdk is debatable but manual seems more in demand, I've been lurking for a while, looking at either an R or and Evora and prices on both have been extremely bouyant , it's a sellers market right now and can't see it changing anytime soon!

[Beanoir]

Manuals are much more in demand with the R, I was hunting for one for about 6 months until I found one mint enough and very low mileage. The PDK cars were hanging about quite a while and as a result some dealers were dropping the prices of them.

[Pauly-b]

When I was looking for my Cayman R I ended up tracking spec and prices for a few months beforehand - some PDK's do last a little longer (Although the one I ended up buying had a lot of interest and was gone in a couple of days).

But, the main impact on time for sale was spec when I tracked it - Buckets and especially Air-Con - cars without those two lasted a lot longer than those with.

I think colour also has an impact - there's an awful lot of white ones about - about fifty percent of the 30 odd cars that came up for sale whilst I was looking were white.

[Mouser73]

The worst part is trying to keep away from the classified once you've made the purchase;-)

[aelord]

Mouser73 said:

The worst part is trying to keep away from the classified once you've made the purchase;-)

I imposed a strict ban, not looked in 6 months.

[Sarnie]

Pauly-b said:

When I was looking for my Cayman R I ended up tracking spec and prices for a few months beforehand - some PDK's do last a little longer (Although the one I ended up buying had a lot of interest and was gone in a couple of days).

But, the main impact on time for sale was spec when I tracked it - Buckets and especially Air-Con - cars without those two lasted a lot longer than those with.

I think colour also has an impact - there's an awful lot of white ones about - about fifty percent of the 30 odd cars that came up for sale whilst I was looking were white.

The aircon thing was reinforced by speaking to JZM who categorically said they'd never take another R that didn't have AC........glad I spoke to them as I'd not really give it much consideration!

[HokumPokum]

why is that?

I had someone tell me the same thing on a lotus exige v6 cup.

You would think it makes no difference on such a track focused car....

granted the CR isn't as track focused and is a more rounded toy, but given the UK climate, no AC is perfectly acceptable for me.

[Sarnie]

HokumPokum said:

why is that?

I had someone tell me the same thing on a lotus exige v6 cup.

You would think it makes no difference on such a track focused car....

granted the CR isn't as track focused and is a more rounded toy, but given the UK climate, no AC is perfectly acceptable for me.

I wasn't bothered about it at all really either but JZM said that they had had two R's previously without it and really struggled to move them on as everyone asked straight away if it had AC or not, apparently. If they were selling a car at the time with AC I might understand that they might try to put me off other cars but they didn't so I saw no reason to assume that it wasn't straight up advice, from a source that knows infinitely more than me about selling Porsche's.....

[Mouser73]

HokumPokum said:

why is that?

I had someone tell me the same thing on a lotus exige v6 cup.

You would think it makes no difference on such a track focused car....

granted the CR isn't as track focused and is a more rounded toy, but given the UK climate, no AC is perfectly acceptable for me.

Certainly in practice, AC isn't the be all for everyone. However, it does make a great difference in the summer, especially if you're sat in a pit lane waiting to go on track.
Personally, I like to have it and overlooked a number of cars which didn't. It's unfortunate that it makes a difference to resale. Although not necessarily to the value. I honestly wish it didn't. I think there will always be a market for both. I suppose too, arguably threads like this reinforce buying habits!

[CheesyFootballs]

I was parked up in my Exige a few weeks back when it started to rain.
The speed at which it fogged up inside was amazing.

I switched the a/c on and waited for it to clear. And waited, and waited...

Turns out I hadn't actually switched it on (the 'on' light on the a/c button looks much like the 'off' light) but just turned the fan on, so then when I *did* switch it on, it cleared within a minute.

A/c in an Exige is pretty much needed, be it on road or in a Cup car.

[HokumPokum]

I had been on a trip to spa where it rained mighty heavily on the expressway and i was grateful i didn't have to deal with fogging issues in my pork, because it had AC. But, for the 99% where AC makes zip difference, I for one would consider a car w/o it. in fact, i just ripped the AC out of my CSL because it never intentionally goes out in the rain and it doesn't bother me on lightly damp tracks. If it rains heavily, my cup shod csl is tucked up anyways.....

saved 10+ kg....

[Beanoir]

Sod the AC chat, this is far more important!

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=...

[CheesyFootballs]

8 mph

Woo hoo....

[Sarnie]

First new car to market I've seen in about 2 months;

Peridot
Just under 20k
Manual
PSE
Buckets
AC
No Chrono?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...

Not sure about the full black wheels? Sure that could be sorted though.
Are the green headrest standard?

[PaulD86]

Sarnie said:

First new car to market I've seen in about 2 months;

Peridot
Just under 20k
Manual
PSE
Buckets
AC
No Chrono?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...

Not sure about the full black wheels? Sure that could be sorted though.
Are the green headrest standard?

Very similar to the spec of mine. My one has sport chrono, cornering headlights and onlt 11.5k miles but otherwise pretty much the same. My car doesn't have the green bit in the seats, it's black plastic.

[Sarnie]

PaulD86 said:

Very similar to the spec of mine. My one has sport chrono, cornering headlights and onlt 11.5k miles but otherwise pretty much the same. My car doesn't have the green bit in the seats, it's black plastic.

Yeah I thought it was your car at first till I saw the mileage and lack of Chrono

[tracydeedance]

Looks great and a fair price concidering what everything else is selling for in limited numbers surely a good investment and a great car to boot

[PaulD86]

Sarnie said:

Yeah I thought it was your car at first till I saw the mileage and lack of Chrono

And with my street currently akin to an ice-rink the miles won't be going up on mine much any time soon! Since I got it in November I've only managed to have 1 drive in it where the roads were dry, all the other times it's been wet/cold/greasy/damp - can't wait for some warm, dry spring tarmac to have a proper play! How are you enjoying yours Sarnie?

[Sarnie]

PaulD86 said:

And with my street currently akin to an ice-rink the miles won't be going up on mine much any time soon! Since I got it in November I've only managed to have 1 drive in it where the roads were dry, all the other times it's been wet/cold/greasy/damp - can't wait for some warm, dry spring tarmac to have a proper play! How are you enjoying yours Sarnie?

Absolutely love it!! I thought I'd be using it as a stop gap till the end of this Summer, but can't see me selling it until I'm in a position to jump to something Italian!