How hard is it to find a decent Cayman R??
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tracydeedance said:
Looks great and a fair price concidering what everything else is selling for in limited numbers surely a good investment and a great car to boot
no PSE, no crono, no leather, no SS , no PCM, non factory painted wheels and the disks look a bit worn.I hope when I put mine up that that price people will say it's a great price and mine has all those extra's ;-)
They are going up so you might expect more for a better spec why not everyone else is asking high prices with limited edition cars.
Just looked fair priced from Opc.
Mines got Man box Chrono Buckets A/ C Pse factory Spyder wheels in black alcantara bits inside .
What more do you need
Who needs Porsche sat nav a good Tom Tom does the job if needed and can be easily be updated.
Higher optioned and lower mileage CRs would be more .
Just looked fair priced from Opc.
Mines got Man box Chrono Buckets A/ C Pse factory Spyder wheels in black alcantara bits inside .
What more do you need
Who needs Porsche sat nav a good Tom Tom does the job if needed and can be easily be updated.
Higher optioned and lower mileage CRs would be more .
tracydeedance said:
They are going up so you might expect more for a better spec why not everyone else is asking high prices with limited edition cars.
Just looked fair priced from Opc.
Mines got Man box Chrono Buckets A/ C Pse factory Spyder wheels in black alcantara bits inside .
What more do you need
Who needs Porsche sat nav a good Tom Tom does the job if needed and can be easily be updated.
Higher optioned and lower mileage CRs would be more .
it's been talked about to death, but 50k new cars people don't want to stick a tom tom on the window.Just looked fair priced from Opc.
Mines got Man box Chrono Buckets A/ C Pse factory Spyder wheels in black alcantara bits inside .
What more do you need
Who needs Porsche sat nav a good Tom Tom does the job if needed and can be easily be updated.
Higher optioned and lower mileage CRs would be more .
I don't use nav in any car, I hate it. I tend to have a map and know my route.
no one needs anything for a fun car, but it has the fun bits missing and the luxury bits missing and is £43k
while that's great news or me, I don't think that is a good price imo. I would want a PSE, SS and sports crono fitting so that's £4k and then it still has no PCM ,leather or Bose.
it's a top price Cayman R, at the minute people seem to have a issue paying more than £42k and higher price cars stick around.
so while I would like to say mine must be worth £45k , no one will pay £45k for it and people will bid me sub 40k for it I am sure.
PorscheGT4 said:
so while I would like to say mine must be worth £45k , no one will pay £45k for it and people will bid me sub 40k for it I am sure.
So that's going to be £25k minimum to change to the GT4 no? Bit of a gamble MrD... Unless the world loves the GT4 and you can run it for 6 months then sell it at a profit.
PorscheGT4 said:
it's been talked about to death, but 50k new cars people don't want to stick a tom tom on the window.
I don't use nav in any car, I hate it. I tend to have a map and know my route.
no one needs anything for a fun car, but it has the fun bits missing and the luxury bits missing and is £43k
while that's great news or me, I don't think that is a good price imo. I would want a PSE, SS and sports crono fitting so that's £4k and then it still has no PCM ,leather or Bose.
it's a top price Cayman R, at the minute people seem to have a issue paying more than £42k and higher price cars stick around.
so while I would like to say mine must be worth £45k , no one will pay £45k for it and people will bid me sub 40k for it I am sure.
As I mentioned to you previously, to pay top money (Eg £42k+) then I would have wanted a car from an OPC or at least with a Porsche warranty. Or it would have to be super low mileage Eg sub 5k.........from memory your car is at 20k with non Porsche items meaning get a Porsche warranty is going to mean replacing the tyres and brake pads and disks AND then pay for the warranty.........so even though your car might have a lot of the desirable options, I think you might struggle to get anywhere near £45k..........not wanting to start a fight, just my opinion I don't use nav in any car, I hate it. I tend to have a map and know my route.
no one needs anything for a fun car, but it has the fun bits missing and the luxury bits missing and is £43k
while that's great news or me, I don't think that is a good price imo. I would want a PSE, SS and sports crono fitting so that's £4k and then it still has no PCM ,leather or Bose.
it's a top price Cayman R, at the minute people seem to have a issue paying more than £42k and higher price cars stick around.
so while I would like to say mine must be worth £45k , no one will pay £45k for it and people will bid me sub 40k for it I am sure.
Lets wait and see if values of the CR will rise my prediction it will like every other model so worth hanging on to especially if this supposed GT4 is going to be big money.
Another 30 40k over a CR for another 30 or 40 bhp seems extreme. Ok if you have deep pockets of course.
Everytime i sell a so called classic or limited edition Porsche. GT3s included the new few weeks they seem to rocket in value.
I wont be selling my CR any time soon especially if its going to cost another 30 or 40k to change.Its a perfect road car will the GT4 be as road friendly or More Track car?
Yes be nice to have another 20bhp in the CR but it is what it is and plenty for our roads of today.
Another 30 40k over a CR for another 30 or 40 bhp seems extreme. Ok if you have deep pockets of course.
Everytime i sell a so called classic or limited edition Porsche. GT3s included the new few weeks they seem to rocket in value.
I wont be selling my CR any time soon especially if its going to cost another 30 or 40k to change.Its a perfect road car will the GT4 be as road friendly or More Track car?
Yes be nice to have another 20bhp in the CR but it is what it is and plenty for our roads of today.
V8KSN said:
So that's going to be £25k minimum to change to the GT4 no?
Bit of a gamble MrD... Unless the world loves the GT4 and you can run it for 6 months then sell it at a profit.
yes a risk, but I have the Spyder how I like it and fancy a change for my main car.Bit of a gamble MrD... Unless the world loves the GT4 and you can run it for 6 months then sell it at a profit.
but yes prob be £35k and my car to swap, which is a scary thought
I honestly think that too many people keep worrying about the price of their car.
IMO it's nice of course not to loose money, but there seems to be so much ramping in the boxster and Cayman sections surrounding the spyder and R models. I've not long owned mine, but I could think of nothing better than sticking a load of miles on it around some technical twisties and keeping it immaculately maintained. If the prices remain modest more people can get to enjoy them.
I would have thought that with the r and spyder not intended to be most people's daily driver, apart from sport chrono and the sports exhaust, what else could you really need.
With a good old fashioned map and your iphone your never going to get lost in any case. I think by worrying about a bose stereo or a fancy 3d sat Nav totally misses the point of these cars. I know most people want these options hence why they are offered, but less is more with these cars that were designed to be lightweight by the manufacturer.
I love not having Bluetooth as it means I don't have to take a call. Having one mode for suspension means I take what's given and try my best to understand and make the most of it. I guess it all depends on what type of driver you are but I prefer not to get too lost in this age of automation where you don't have to think for yourself.
IMO it's nice of course not to loose money, but there seems to be so much ramping in the boxster and Cayman sections surrounding the spyder and R models. I've not long owned mine, but I could think of nothing better than sticking a load of miles on it around some technical twisties and keeping it immaculately maintained. If the prices remain modest more people can get to enjoy them.
I would have thought that with the r and spyder not intended to be most people's daily driver, apart from sport chrono and the sports exhaust, what else could you really need.
With a good old fashioned map and your iphone your never going to get lost in any case. I think by worrying about a bose stereo or a fancy 3d sat Nav totally misses the point of these cars. I know most people want these options hence why they are offered, but less is more with these cars that were designed to be lightweight by the manufacturer.
I love not having Bluetooth as it means I don't have to take a call. Having one mode for suspension means I take what's given and try my best to understand and make the most of it. I guess it all depends on what type of driver you are but I prefer not to get too lost in this age of automation where you don't have to think for yourself.
mine is a daily and I have put 14k miles on it personally.
Bluetooth is a must have for me.
I think what makes them great is you can have one as a only car no issue and it covers daily duties and weekend duties with ease.
Now my Spyder has no weight options like PCM or AC or even a radio and that works just as well for me also.
Bluetooth is a must have for me.
I think what makes them great is you can have one as a only car no issue and it covers daily duties and weekend duties with ease.
Now my Spyder has no weight options like PCM or AC or even a radio and that works just as well for me also.
I don't buy any of this "less is more" business.
My car is used maybe once a week or so, so not often. But when I do, I want it to be the best car it car be, whether that includes the Sat Nav to get me home when I get lost or the PSE to make the hairs stand up on the back of my neck or the climate control to keep the temperature how I like it without me pushing a slider up and down.
I don't see how less options would make me enjoy this car any more? If I wanted to drive a stripped out car I'd buy a Caterfield etc
My car is used maybe once a week or so, so not often. But when I do, I want it to be the best car it car be, whether that includes the Sat Nav to get me home when I get lost or the PSE to make the hairs stand up on the back of my neck or the climate control to keep the temperature how I like it without me pushing a slider up and down.
I don't see how less options would make me enjoy this car any more? If I wanted to drive a stripped out car I'd buy a Caterfield etc
that's why there are Porsche options and people spend from £2k to £22k on them depending what they want.
I have to have Leather in both, it's a must have, had too many Lotus to go for the plastic fantastic inside and these cars are double the price.
leather is a rare option though esp if people put PSE and PCM above leather and then want every thing.
Not many cars have every thing, hence My R is a great speced car.
My Spyder I want that the best (read fastest) it can be and you can tell the weight drop driving both back to back.
Both models are at the top of the game on spec for each way I use the car. and both every expensive RRP's
Going back to that green one at Notts it's rrp would be £6 or £7k less than my car, most Spyders are 8k less than my car RRP.
resale, people either pay up or go with out as choice is poor esp if you make Manual, buckets seats and Spyder wheels a must haves which people do now.
I have to have Leather in both, it's a must have, had too many Lotus to go for the plastic fantastic inside and these cars are double the price.
leather is a rare option though esp if people put PSE and PCM above leather and then want every thing.
Not many cars have every thing, hence My R is a great speced car.
My Spyder I want that the best (read fastest) it can be and you can tell the weight drop driving both back to back.
Both models are at the top of the game on spec for each way I use the car. and both every expensive RRP's
Going back to that green one at Notts it's rrp would be £6 or £7k less than my car, most Spyders are 8k less than my car RRP.
resale, people either pay up or go with out as choice is poor esp if you make Manual, buckets seats and Spyder wheels a must haves which people do now.
I always wonder why people get so emotive about spec, whether you have PCM or no radio at all it doens't change the way the car drives, it just means you have music or you dont', all down to peronal preference.
The idea you can tell the difference between a car weighing 10kg more or less than the other is highly unrealistic, i'm sorry but nobody could identify that between 2 cars unless it was on a weighbridge. The fact they are different cars probably has more to do with it.
The idea you can tell the difference between a car weighing 10kg more or less than the other is highly unrealistic, i'm sorry but nobody could identify that between 2 cars unless it was on a weighbridge. The fact they are different cars probably has more to do with it.
Beanoir said:
I always wonder why people get so emotive about spec, whether you have PCM or no radio at all it doens't change the way the car drives, it just means you have music or you dont', all down to peronal preference.
The idea you can tell the difference between a car weighing 10kg more or less than the other is highly unrealistic, i'm sorry but nobody could identify that between 2 cars unless it was on a weighbridge. The fact they are different cars probably has more to do with it.
It is annoying when people tell you what you can and cannot feel !The idea you can tell the difference between a car weighing 10kg more or less than the other is highly unrealistic, i'm sorry but nobody could identify that between 2 cars unless it was on a weighbridge. The fact they are different cars probably has more to do with it.
prob about 90kg between my 2 cars, that's like having one fat b
d in your passerger seat and I can tell if a 70kg person is in the Spyder no issue, to a point on track I have to brake earlier. no you cannot tell a PCM, or AC or BOSE, on their own but add it all up and then the Cayman roof and you would have to be dead not to tell !!!
Any thing over about 30kg and you can start to feel it.
V8KSN said:
Because he is the Stig and he has F1 driver levels of feel for grip and slip!
Sheesh! How long have you been on here Beanoir? You should know this!
I know, schoolboy error. Sheesh! How long have you been on here Beanoir? You should know this!
Now, must get back to cleaning the flies off my bumper, i've noticed it increasing my drag coefficient lately
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