How hard is it to find a decent Cayman R??

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A house probably!

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J12KJR said:

Has to be done at some point. At least you will have had some fun in the meantime.

I already have a house but apparently "it's not big enough" and "it's not in the catchment area" of the schools we want our kids to go to..............so a much bigger house in a more expensive area......££££££

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pete.g said:

The White one at Hollybrook has dipped below 40k. Doesn't have the side stripes, but I'm sure they can be fitted. It's PDK, but it does have nav.

Already spoke to Matt quite a bit.......it doesn't have the PSE which Porsche are wanting £2288 to retro fit.........given that that cost isn't ever going to be recouped in the sale price really, I'm after one with it already....

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Beanoir said:

One of your rejects

Ha! It kind of had to be given that for two months I've been hawking PH, Autotrader, Ebay and Googling "Cayman R for Sale" seemingly every 10 minutes of the day in case any slip through the net!!

I'm sure whatever car it is it'll be great, it just seems that my requirements are in line with how a lot of people ordered them originally!!

The Paragon car?

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J12KJR said:

So a few years to wait until you can sell the big house and use the profit to buy several fun cars.

Sounds so simple, although I think once the Mrs is in the new house, I would have to crowbar her out of it!! lol

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Reduced £500...........

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

Seems a decent car, without buckets, but with low miles and two years Porsche Warranty apparently.

I've seen a lot of talk of "decent spec cars selling fast" but I've not actually seen anything sell fast other than the Peridot R at Cameron that I passed up............everything else is stagnating or the sellers are slashing the price. A lot of the cars listed were £2-3k more a couple of months ago.

There seems to be an element of "speculative" listings of people trying to ride or create a bubble of the price of these car going up whereas as far as I can see, prices are static and not selling or being reduced and still not selling.

May be it's the time of the year? May be there just hasn't been a truely high spec, low mileage car come up for sale whilst I've been looking, and I'm now getting cynical!?!?

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n17ves said:

Depends what you class as a spec I guess..

I've not seen another car close to the spec of mine since I bought mine 18 months ago (Manual, spyder wheels Sports Chrono, buckets, xenons, short shift, alcantara wheel, PSE, soundpackage +, Climate control, bluetooth etc). Only thing mine hasn't got that a lot of people want is PCM, but sadly thats what you want.

White and Peridot seem to be the most desirable colours.

Yeah, White & Peridot do seem to be the premium colours.

But then my assumption was that the 9k Paragon car would have sold in days, despite not having PSE, but it still seems to be for sale....

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n17ves said:

Depends what you class as a spec I guess..

I've not seen another car close to the spec of mine since I bought mine 18 months ago (Manual, spyder wheels Sports Chrono, buckets, xenons, short shift, alcantara wheel, PSE, soundpackage +, Climate control, bluetooth etc). Only thing mine hasn't got that a lot of people want is PCM, but sadly thats what you want.

White and Peridot seem to be the most desirable colours.

Another example is this one that sounds similar to your car, but has PCM but no PSE;

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...

That car was £42,950 not long ago, and is still under Porsche warranty. This car can be bought for £39k. This is why when people say "good spec cars are selling for £42-£43k" I'm struggling to see where thats happening thats all

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mrdemon said:

Ask Porsche how much a Stripe is you will be shocked £900 !!!

ANd it's PDK, no leather etc

the white Cayman R with the spec sold in 2 hours for well over £40k

the Paragon car is a lot of cash for a car with NO PSE as 2nd hand buyers see PSE as a must have and cannot be arsed to fit one.
fit a PSE to that car and it's >£46k

Porsche don't even have a Manual with bucket seat car for sale, the OPC's sell them straight away. I know OPC have names down, many don't even make it to the sales pages and are sold off book.

none of the cars listed at an OPC are great and none of the ones on PH are apart from the GT silver one with turbo wheels.

you have missed out on the 2 or 3 good cars which have come up the last 2 months and they have been selling mid £40's even the PCCB car you turned down
has that sold now ?

GT silver looks great in real life, add the Spyder wheels and you easy be able to move it on also, BUY IT TODAY ;-)

Edited by mrdemon on Thursday 4th December 13:03

Trust me, I've not missed out on anything I didn't want.

If you are referring to the White car that Porsche Solihull had for sale, that had horrible red lips painted on to the wheels and no PCM. I wouldn't have bought it no matter what the price was....

Porsche Glasgow had a manual Peridot car with no PCM that another PH'er bought after 10 days of haggling apparently, so not exactly flying out the door.

Even at £900 for a stripe, the white NI car is still under £40k.

The car with PCCB's is probably my only regret really but then that was because it was offered to me on the day Porsche Solihull said they could get me in a GTS by the end of the year, which a week later became Feb 2015 by which time the car had gone to the dealer.

Trust me, I'm not trying to talk prices down I'll be an owner myself next week, I'm just not seeing the cars being sold as quickly as people think they are or for the money people seem to want for their cars currently.

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mrdemon said:

Dan911 managed to get one ;-p

Had no PCM

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mrdemon said:

you will have to wait for mine or offer me an amount I cannot refuse then, it just has every thing :-)
If only I knew the true cost and spec of the GT4 I could make a choice on selling it now.

I'm too impatient to wait.

I'm buying a car next week, my M3 is going soon after, just got to decide which one.

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tracydeedance said:

Think i have said before your buying a used car not specing new, so set a few rules of what options you want and be prepared to be a little fleaxable other wise you would never buy one.

If you read my posts you'll see that I've done exactly that!

White/Peridot/Red car
PCM,PSE

Everything else I'm entirely flexible on!

Not overly bothered about Xenon, full extended leather, PDK/Manual, mileage, price, Buckets, Chrono etc etc etc

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Another one reduced, this was £45k this morning;

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...

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n17ves said:

Not surprising at that price with no buckets or decals.

Or PSE

This was my point that some sales, even from OPC's, seem to be a little speculative in the hope that the "hype" will convince someone to spend £45k on it......

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DoubleSix said:

Confident a dealership would pit decals on to secure a sale...

I'm sure they would be the buckets and PSE are a bigger issue really and the mileage isn't exactly super low at that price......

Can't wait till this is over and I have a car

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shaunRS said:

It has the buckets.. Full leather would be nice, but does this type of car need full leather you think?

To late now, I bought it, fed up searching for months.. Pick up Saturday

Congrats!

I'm going to buy a car next week too, just haven't fully decided which one!!

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Beanoir said:

I think everybody has their own desired spec and wish list, mine was a decent colour (peridot being the least desirable to me), standard Spyder wheels, aircon, PCM and that's about it. I wasn't bothered about PSE because after driving ones with and without I don't actually think the difference is worth worrying about.

My other criteria and probably the most important to me was LOW mileage and spotless history.

The Paragon car then?

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Beanoir said:

I bet they didn't say that

So, have you bought it then?

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Few Porsche noob questions;

11 Black Alcantara and Leatherette: I'm assuming this is the seats?
490 Sound Package Plus incl CD: What exactly is this?
666 Telephone Module for PCM: Is this Bluetooth or not?
870 Universal Audio Interface: What is this? Is this to connect iPhones/iPods etc to the PCM?

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Beanoir said:

11 - yep, not real leather on the bucket seats!
490 - more speakers and amplified - used to be standard in the gen1 987 Cayman
666 - I don't believe it is...could be wrong though
870 - adds USB, Ipod connector and 3.5mm jack in the arm rest cubby hole

Cheers!

If the Telephone module isn't Bluetooth, then what is it?

Is it like an 80's car phone/briefcase with a massive aerial??