Cayman GT4 - Porsche now accepting deposits. (Jan 2015.)

[J-P]

Trotmant said:

http://www.worldcarfans.com/115012787908/porsche-c...

do we think this is real?

Yep it's on the game. Just checked on my iPhone. Can't actually access anything at the moment but interestingly the only game company with an official Porsche license is EA and they built RR3, so good way of advertising the new car.

[dreamcar]

NIgt3 said:

Dreamcar it did't take you long to realise he's a complete arssehole, just try to ignore him thats what everybody else seems to do!!

Well he clearly feels he has lost his argument on an open forum as he has clearly alienated many others here, so now he's sending me private messages via Pistonheads. I've not replied to his rather pointless message, as I am rather choosy who I reveal my email addresses to (I get enough junk mail without inviting more)! But I acknowledge receipt of his email here and will treat any further attempts to continue his childish dialogue here or with messages with the total contempt they deserve. Messages of course will be deleted unread. In fairness to all the other worthy contributors to this thread I trust he will not now detract from it any further.

Edited by dreamcar on Tuesday 27th January 20:30

[J-P]

dreamcar said:

J-P said:

I'm sure he's not the total prick he comes across as on his posts IRL......)

If he was that would indeed be some achievement!!

[Jim1556]

dreamcar said:

Well he clearly feels he has lost his argument on an open forum as he has clearly alienated many others here, so now he's sending me private messages via Pistonheads. I've not replied to his rather pointless message, as I am rather choosy who I reveal my email addresses to (I get enough junk mail without inviting more)! But I acknowledge receipt of his email here and will treat any further attempts to continue his childish dialogue here or with messages with the total contempt they deserve. Messages of course will be deleted unread.

Every now and then I read something of his with interest, it may be inciteful, knowledgeable, or genuinely helpful and I think 'maybe he's not that bad?'...

Then, (after saying he wasn't going to post until Feb) he decides to pick on you because of you've just joined, don't modify your cars and don't agree with every word he says?

The man (intentional or not) comes across as an utter tool and a spoilt brat of a teenager!

Most people on here are rather quite nice, helpful and appreciate thoughtful debate!

Best of luck with whatever you decide to do...

(I better delete my profile now in case he comes after me for not actually owning a Porsche!)

[J-P]

Jim1556 said:

dreamcar said:

Well he clearly feels he has lost his argument on an open forum as he has clearly alienated many others here, so now he's sending me private messages via Pistonheads. I've not replied to his rather pointless message, as I am rather choosy who I reveal my email addresses to (I get enough junk mail without inviting more)! But I acknowledge receipt of his email here and will treat any further attempts to continue his childish dialogue here or with messages with the total contempt they deserve. Messages of course will be deleted unread.

Every now and then I read something of his with interest, it may be inciteful, knowledgeable, or genuinely helpful and I think 'maybe he's not that bad?'...

Then, (after saying he wasn't going to post until Feb) he decides to pick on you because of you've just joined, don't modify your cars and don't agree with every word he says?

The man (intentional or not) comes across as an utter tool and a spoilt brat of a teenager!

Most people on here are rather quite nice, helpful and appreciate thoughtful debate!

Best of luck with whatever you decide to do...

(I better delete my profile now in case he comes after me for not actually owning a Porsche!)

Couldn't agree more Jim. To be honest I'd almost prefer that every post was unhelpful tosh but some stuff really isn't unreasonable. I don't understand why it's so important to be "right" on the Internet. If somebody disagrees with your viewpoint just agree to disagree.

[dreamcar]

Jim1556 said:

Every now and then I read something of his with interest, it may be inciteful, knowledgeable, or genuinely helpful and I think 'maybe he's not that bad?'...

Then, (after saying he wasn't going to post until Feb) he decides to pick on you because of you've just joined, don't modify your cars and don't agree with every word he says?

The man (intentional or not) comes across as an utter tool and a spoilt brat of a teenager!

Most people on here are rather quite nice, helpful and appreciate thoughtful debate!

Best of luck with whatever you decide to do...

(I better delete my profile now in case he comes after me for not actually owning a Porsche!)

Thank you Jim1556. He really is no more than a minor irritation and I have no problem dealing with the likes of him. Between you and me I don't currently own a Porsche either, sold our Carrera S last April, but like many addicts was unable to kick the habit, and was only able to make peace with myself by choosing to order a Boxster GTS for delivery in a few weeks time. Sadly it is boringly unaltered from how Porsche designed it, with awful PASM suspension, slushmatic PDK gearbox and non-slick N rated tyres. I will do my best to not fall asleep whilst driving it. I'm currently discussing with the factory to see if they can design a Zimmer frame for me that will fit in the luggage compartment.

Back on the subject of this thread I did actually write a letter of intent to my dealer for a Cayman GT4, however the reality is it is likely to be too hard core for my wife and was so impressed with the GTS I cancelled my interest.

[Jim1556]

J-P said:

If somebody disagrees with your viewpoint just agree to disagree.

No! You're wrong! I don't agree with you!!!

Anyway...

J-P, are you still modding your CR? Any interest in a GT4?

My GT3 fund isn't growing as fast as the buggers are going up, but by the sounds of it, (depending on which forum/magazine is closest) the GT4 maybe on my radar in a year or so...

ETA: Though they seem to have stabilised (I've no interest in a 991 GT3, I'm a manual man)...

Edited by Jim1556 on Tuesday 27th January 20:52

[dreamcar]

Jim1556 said:

No! You're wrong! I don't agree with you!!!

Anyway...

J-P, are you still modding your CR? Any interest in a GT4?

My GT3 fund isn't growing as fast as the buggers are going up, but by the sounds of it, (depending on which forum/magazine is closest) the GT4 maybe on my radar in a year or so...

If it's any comfort on Rennteam.com believe it or not several who have been fortunate enough to buy the latest GT3 have become bored with it quite quickly and moved them on - I know I find that amazing!

However last spring my dealer lent me a 991 Carrera S for a few days and I felt the same. It is more GT than sports car and lacked the mechanical character of my 997/2. I was really pleased to get back behind the wheel of the 997. Completely different impression to what I feel every time I drive a 981, whichever one I drive they blow me away with their brilliance. It's still a proper sports car!

[Reffro]

Just to put you all out of your misery, I have checked what the 12 pre-production vehicles have engine wise...

The answer is 3.8l with 385hp! Claimed top speed is 295kmh, gvw 1665kg with a unladen weight of 1415kg (not sure if that includes a driver, but probably not)

[J-P]

Jim1556 said:

J-P said:

If somebody disagrees with your viewpoint just agree to disagree.

No! You're wrong! I don't agree with you!!!

Anyway...

J-P, are you still modding your CR? Any interest in a GT4?

My GT3 fund isn't growing as fast as the buggers are going up, but by the sounds of it, (depending on which forum/magazine is closest) the GT4 maybe on my radar in a year or so...

ETA: Though they seem to have stabilised (I've no interest in a 991 GT3, I'm a manual man)...

Edited by Jim1556 on Tuesday 27th January 20:52

Still undecided on that one Jim. I've done a lot of research into modding the CR and think I can end up with something that is uniquely "me". I'm on the list for the GT4, the timing is rubbish for me but let's see what happens. Mrs threw a spanner in the works by suggesting a 991 GTS, so it's fair to say I don't know exactly what I'll do yet. Should be an interesting year, no matter what though!

[Jim1556]

Can't see many people overly happy with that weight...

From Porsche website Cayman GTS figures:
Manual PDK
Unladen weight (DIN) 1,345 kg 1,375 kg
Unladen weight (EC) 1,420 kg 1,450 kg
Permissible gross weight 1,665 kg 1,695 kg

[J-P]

Reffro said:

Just to put you all out of your misery, I have checked what the 12 pre-production vehicles have engine wise...

The answer is 3.8l with 385hp! Claimed top speed is 295kmh, gvw 1665kg with a unladen weight of 1415kg (not sure if that includes a driver, but probably not)

Thanks!

[Mermaid]

Reffro said:

Just to put you all out of your misery, I have checked what the 12 pre-production vehicles have engine wise...

The answer is 3.8l with 385hp! Claimed top speed is 295kmh, gvw 1665kg with a unladen weight of 1415kg (not sure if that includes a driver, but probably not)

GT3 3.8 was 435, so 50bhp tuned down.

3.6 997GT3.1 was 415, 966GT3.2 was 381

Seems lardy

[Jim1556]

J-P said:

Still undecided on that one Jim. I've done a lot of research into modding the CR and think I can end up with something that is uniquely "me". I'm on the list for the GT4, the timing is rubbish for me but let's see what happens. Mrs threw a spanner in the works by suggesting a 991 GTS, so it's fair to say I don't know exactly what I'll do yet. Should be an interesting year, no matter what though!

I suppose it depends on what 'you' want, we all know you enjoyed your 997 GTS, I loved reading the thread that ended up over 100 pages (I think?)...

Could you not go for the GT4 and if it's not up to 'your' expectations, then swap it for a 991 GTS? Going on the hype surrounding it at the moment (and lack of cars if certain people are to be believed), I can't see it losing much (if any), especially as you'll get one for the summer!

[J-P]

Jim1556 said:

J-P said:

Still undecided on that one Jim. I've done a lot of research into modding the CR and think I can end up with something that is uniquely "me". I'm on the list for the GT4, the timing is rubbish for me but let's see what happens. Mrs threw a spanner in the works by suggesting a 991 GTS, so it's fair to say I don't know exactly what I'll do yet. Should be an interesting year, no matter what though!

I suppose it depends on what 'you' want, we all know you enjoyed your 997 GTS, I loved reading the thread that ended up over 100 pages (I think?)...

Could you not go for the GT4 and if it's not up to 'your' expectations, then swap it for a 991 GTS? Going on the hype surrounding it at the moment (and lack of cars if certain people are to be believed), I can't see it losing much (if any), especially as you'll get one for the summer!

I did love that car and everybody knows it. In reality I should have kept it. Yes the thread was epic. It's the timing for the GT4, I don't know if I can actually get it until March and just don't want to commit until I know I can go ahead. I'd hate to have to pull out having got all excited about the car. Also, GTS gets so much use. When I had mine, I did trips to Europe in it, track days, took the kids to school, shopping, driver training, it was just brilliant at everything. Most telling aspect of ownership though was that I never felt the need to mod it.

[nsm3]

You're not much of an enthusiastic driver then, you should at least ripped out the suspension and put slicks on it - apparently?

[J-P]

nsm3 said:

You're not much of an enthusiastic driver then, you should at least ripped out the suspension and put slicks on it - apparently?

You know nothing it's adjustable LCAs that make all the difference!

[Mermaid]

J-P said:

nsm3 said:

You're not much of an enthusiastic driver then, you should at least ripped out the suspension and put slicks on it - apparently?

You know nothing it's adjustable LCAs that make all the difference!

Driver training is the best mod, can transfer it to each new car. Mr D, take note.

[Slippydiff]

dreamcar said:

Well he clearly feels he has lost his argument on an open forum as he has clearly alienated many others here, so now he's sending me private messages via Pistonheads. I've not replied to his rather pointless message, as I am rather choosy who I reveal my email addresses to (I get enough junk mail without inviting more)!

Welcome to the PH Porsche forum. Worry not, you're in good company sir, he's done the same to me in the past, and my response mirrored yours precisely, I too chose not to respond to his ranting PM.

I can only apologise for this individuals behaviour, you're not the first to have had to tolerate it, and regrettably I doubt you'll be the last.

There are a lot of very polite, well informed, very knowledgeable and enthusiastic individuals on here, so please don't let this individual deter you from posting on the forum, we need more like you around here ! The more people that stand up to this individuals unbecoming behaviour, the better.

Edited by Slippydiff on Tuesday 27th January 22:26

[lemmingjames]

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