Cayman GT4 - Porsche now accepting deposits. (Jan 2015.)

[mdianuk]

3.8, at least 385bhp, Manual only. Same weight as GTS (not bad considering the heavier engine). Not limited run hmmm

Edited by mdianuk on Wednesday 4th February 00:38

[swimd]

swimd said:

I'd expect the manual GT4 to weigh anywhere between 1340-1350kg. 15kg less if AC is a free option.
If you add a few options and consider the DIN 5% tolerance - which manufacturers love to make use of - a 1400 kg GT4 might not be completely unrealistic.

nailed it

[Sierra Mike]

p5hrr said:

Sierra Mike said:

It all depends on whether you're intent on getting the first car or just want a car. At the end of the day, you need to decide who you trust to pay a deposit to and decide fast. What I will say is that despite Newcastle being my local dealer, I'm amongst many who are buying new Porsches elsewhere other than JCT600.

I was hoping as a previous customer of JCT600, placing a letter of interest last July would secure 1st car to the dealer, but I get the feeling 1 or more favoured customers are getting to jump the queue. I offered a deposit, but they wouldnt take one till officially announced. Unlike Porsche Glasgow, who wanted £3000 just to place LOI. Edinburgh took LOI as 1st to get a car, but dont really seem to know whats going on !!. I want a car and preferably one of the 1st in the country

I think the dealers are being cagey on this one due to potential speculators. Deposits seem to be ranging from £3k to £10k.

[CheesyFootballs]

mdianuk said:

Not limited run hmmm

Edited by mdianuk on Wednesday 4th February 00:38

Is this confirmed?

[EricE]

CheesyFootballs said:

mdianuk said:

Not limited run hmmm

Edited by mdianuk on Wednesday 4th February 00:38

Is this confirmed?

Yes, confirmed by the man himself in the Evo video. He said no limited edition with a plaque but limited by the amount of cars they can build. They "won't build 5000, 6000 or 10000 cars" is what he said.
If I had to guess then I'd say that means 1000-2000 like with the Cayman R and Boxster Spyder.

[BobToc]

From the evo interview with AP that's just popped up on YouTube, limited only in that there's only so many cars they can turn out and there'll be a fixed production run.

"We will not build 5 or 6 or 10,000 of these cars".

[Mermaid]

EricE said:

Yes, confirmed by the man himself in the Evo video. He said no limited edition with a plaque but limited by the amount of cars they can build. They "won't build 5000, 6000 or 10000 cars" is what he said.
If I had to guess then I'd say that means 1000-2000 like with the Cayman R and Boxster Spyder.

closer to 5000 than 2000 I expect to recover the investment at this "low" price point, but it is still small numbers in the scheme of things.

[dufflecoat]

Wow. Want.

Unfortunately, unlikely to ever be seen sub £50k so I need to work much harder.

[mdianuk]

I've woke up feeling fairly luke warm on it now Maybe hoping it would be the car the Cayman deserves to be, but Porsche haven't quite pushed it far enough. It is a decent step up from the GTS, but not that significant. Was hoping it would be quite limited, exclusive, with a tad more power and styling. Being picky?

Edited by mdianuk on Wednesday 4th February 08:17

[UH-Matt]

mdianuk said:

I've woke up feeling fairly luke warm on it now Maybe hoping it would be the car the Cayman deserves to be, but Porsche haven't quite pushed it far enough. It is a decent step up from the GTS, but not that significant. Was hoping it would be quite limited, exclusive, with a tad more power and styling. Being picky?

Edited by mdianuk on Wednesday 4th February 08:17

You mean you wanted a GT4 RS ?

[Mario149]

Looks like it'll be a great car, but can't help feeling disappointed they didn't rinse a 3.4 to 385hp rather than just "hot rod" it as Andreas said by chucking more capacity at the problem.

That said, if the B Spyder follows the same pattern and I could get it with sports seats PDK and leccy roof, I'd prob change my BGTS order to a Spyder if I could.

[mdianuk]

UH-Matt said:

You mean you wanted a GT4 RS ?

Do you or anyone else feel that a GT4 RS is likely? I'd feel much more comfortable paying £75k for a more extreme version than £65k for this one.

The more I read the data, the more impressed I am again, but something is holding me back like it wouldn't before. Possibly the power, the lack of exclusivity, or the rumoured (is it a rumour?) Boxster version?

[Mario149]

Mario149 said:

Looks like it'll be a great car, but can't help feeling disappointed they didn't rinse a 3.4 to 385hp rather than just "hot rod" it as Andreas said by chucking more capacity at the problem.

To add to the above, would have also preferred shorter ratios, I don't care if it's got an extra 40hp, 85mph in 2nd is too long, although it is a bit more forgivable on this car

[ORD]

I think it's going to be pretty average, I am afraid.

It will be raved about in the motoring press, of courses, but using a low-revving tuned down version of a 911 engine is a very bad sign indeed.

Less torque more revs is what the Cayman should have relative to a 911, but it looks like it will be, if anything, less peaky than a 911 S.

[Phooey]

mdianuk said:

Do you or anyone else feel that a GT4 RS is likely?

Yes, next year.

[Scooty100]

Phooey said:

Yes, next year.

Im clearly out the loop but I thought the RS badge would be exclusive to the 911

[hondansx]

mdianuk said:

UH-Matt said:

You mean you wanted a GT4 RS ?

Do you or anyone else feel that a GT4 RS is likely? I'd feel much more comfortable paying £75k for a more extreme version than £65k for this one.

The more I read the data, the more impressed I am again, but something is holding me back like it wouldn't before. Possibly the power, the lack of exclusivity, or the rumoured (is it a rumour?) Boxster version?

I would certainly take a Boxster version if they do it, as it would make it a completely different proposition to the GT3.

[swimd]

Phooey said:

mdianuk said:

Do you or anyone else feel that a GT4 RS is likely?

Yes, next year.

Seems to me like they did leave a lot of room for a potential GT4-RS.
A real GT engine, weight savings from composite panels/roof, lightweight battery, climate and radio delete could shave another 100 kg off the GT4 imo... considering it is possible to configure/modify a 981 GTS to <1300kg wet (yes... brakes wheels and engine are heavier but the composite + thinner bodywork/glass could make up for it)

[Reffro]

Reffro said:

Just to put you all out of your misery, I have checked what the 12 pre-production vehicles have engine wise...

The answer is 3.8l with 385hp! Claimed top speed is 295kmh, gvw 1665kg with a unladen weight of 1415kg (not sure if that includes a driver, but probably not)

Forgive me for crowing, but, Nailed it

[Sierra Mike]

Porsche has advised OPCs that the deposit for the GT4 is £5k. Beware of dealers who are asking for more.