Cayman GT4 - Porsche now accepting deposits. (Jan 2015.)
Discussion
NewExigeS said:
It would sort out the speculators from the real customers who want the car to drive and enjoy.
So you are lucky enough to be allocated a GT4. You find it desperately disappointing to drive but are then somehow prevented from selling by some kind of contractual obligation to Porsche. Or maybe your financial circumstances change and you have to sell? It's not practical. My dealer at least was, I believe, quite proper in his allocation of slots for the car. They allocated based upon history within the brand and locality to the dealership.
m33ufo said:
My dealer at least was, I believe, quite proper in his allocation of slots for the car. They allocated based upon history within the brand and locality to the dealership.
I get the locality to dealership rationale but struggling with the brand history piece. What about those people for whom this is their first car or first car in a while? They have to buy a different model just to build up a brand history before being allowed to buy a GT4 (or any Gt model it seems)? This sounds like a carbon copy of how the art world works and to be honest, it's a crap, elitist and unfair way of doing business.If someone wanted to maximize their chances of buying a GT4 then an early conversation and LOI with their local OPC was a good first step. I did this about 4-5 months ago and have been told that I "should " get a car and it could be one of the first batch at the dealership. I hope this is still the case and that someone with brand history hasn't bumped me down. I specifically asked my OPC if this would happen and he was very clear that they would go by LOI timing and deposit with no favouritism based on brand history. Not sure I believe it but if it's not true and I do get leapfrogged then building brand history with Porsche will be the furthest thing from my mind!
m33ufo said:
I think it's very fair that a customer who has historically supported the brand gets preferential treatment when it comes to dishing out the allocation of heavily over subscribed models.
I still wish you good fortune in getting your car - just not at the sake of me losing mine
Fair enough. I respect your POV. Nothing either of us can do about it anyway! Hopefully they will produce enough for all that want to buy and drive it. That will sort out the speculators!I still wish you good fortune in getting your car - just not at the sake of me losing mine
m33ufo said:
I think it's very fair that a customer who has historically supported the brand gets preferential treatment when it comes to dishing out the allocation of heavily over subscribed models.
I still wish you good fortune in getting your car - just not at the sake of me losing mine
Historical customers get screwed too despite supporting the brand for many years and showing complete loyalty to the OPC... Also not welcoming new customers means no new relationships can be built. I guess this is why nobody trusts car salesmen...!I still wish you good fortune in getting your car - just not at the sake of me losing mine
TheAnimal said:
Historical customers get screwed too despite supporting the brand for many years and showing complete loyalty to the OPC... Also not welcoming new customers means no new relationships can be built. I guess this is why nobody trusts car salesmen...!
Banks offer mortgages (or did) at more competitive rates to new customers...A really novel idea Porsche, build enough product to meet your customer demand!! Try that please.
I would like to buy a 991 GT3 RS, as well as my GT4 slot (should I get one), I have never ever found it this hard to spend £230,000 (my estimate of what the two will cost).
If I don't get slots I will not buy over list from speculators purely on principle, I will probably stick with the Exige V6.
I would like to buy a 991 GT3 RS, as well as my GT4 slot (should I get one), I have never ever found it this hard to spend £230,000 (my estimate of what the two will cost).
If I don't get slots I will not buy over list from speculators purely on principle, I will probably stick with the Exige V6.
NewExigeS said:
A really novel idea Porsche, build enough product to meet your customer demand!! Try that please.
I would like to buy a 991 GT3 RS, as well as my GT4 slot (should I get one), I have never ever found it this hard to spend £230,000 (my estimate of what the two will cost).
If I don't get slots I will not buy over list from speculators purely on principle, I will probably stick with the Exige V6.
Europe is facing economic headwinds, you would expect them to switch production to RHD. Is all this just a ploy to create demand for the Brand, with people switching to other more profitable offerings from Porsche.I would like to buy a 991 GT3 RS, as well as my GT4 slot (should I get one), I have never ever found it this hard to spend £230,000 (my estimate of what the two will cost).
If I don't get slots I will not buy over list from speculators purely on principle, I will probably stick with the Exige V6.
Mermaid said:
Europe is facing economic headwinds, you would expect them to switch production to RHD. Is all this just a ploy to create demand for the Brand, with people switching to other more profitable offerings from Porsche.
If that's their plan then I wish them good luck. It will do the complete opposite for me.Littleern said:
Mermaid said:
Europe is facing economic headwinds, you would expect them to switch production to RHD. Is all this just a ploy to create demand for the Brand, with people switching to other more profitable offerings from Porsche.
If that's their plan then I wish them good luck. It will do the complete opposite for me.458 said:
I doubt it was their plan, I just think they believe that selling circa 250 cars into the UK in the second half of 2015 and 2016 would be sufficient. After all, that is about how many GT3s they sell every time there is a new one.
They probably figured that GT4 hasn't yet got a strong following / track history / no PDK etc and that number would be enough.
I think the success of the last GT3 has brought a whole new breed of speculators and non-brand customers who want to jump on the band wagon of purchasing a car that drives well and potentially appreciates in value.
If that really is the case they could quite easily just decide to make more once they know the demand is there.They probably figured that GT4 hasn't yet got a strong following / track history / no PDK etc and that number would be enough.
I think the success of the last GT3 has brought a whole new breed of speculators and non-brand customers who want to jump on the band wagon of purchasing a car that drives well and potentially appreciates in value.
garyhun said:
I wonder if this will have a negative effect on sales of the Cayman GTS?
I was thinking of a GTS but after seeing the GT4 there is no way I could have any Cayman but the GT4. So if there are not enough GT4's to satisfy demand the money goes elsewhere.
Reasonable or not?
I suspect only for a very short timeframe until the 981 facelift is out... if at all. I was thinking of a GTS but after seeing the GT4 there is no way I could have any Cayman but the GT4. So if there are not enough GT4's to satisfy demand the money goes elsewhere.
Reasonable or not?
If the 4-cylinder turbos are as bad as Walter Röhrl says then most of the recent 9A1 cars should keep their value quite well.
EricE said:
garyhun said:
I wonder if this will have a negative effect on sales of the Cayman GTS?
I was thinking of a GTS but after seeing the GT4 there is no way I could have any Cayman but the GT4. So if there are not enough GT4's to satisfy demand the money goes elsewhere.
Reasonable or not?
I suspect only for a very short timeframe until the 981 facelift is out... if at all. I was thinking of a GTS but after seeing the GT4 there is no way I could have any Cayman but the GT4. So if there are not enough GT4's to satisfy demand the money goes elsewhere.
Reasonable or not?
If the 4-cylinder turbos are as bad as Walter Röhrl says then most of the recent 9A1 cars should keep their value quite well.
I actually think it might help values as a halo model that raises the caymans overall profile
dvshannow said:
Think it will hardly impact residuals numbers are too small and sure you might decide if I can't have gt4 I won't have anything, but it's a bit illogical and many will end up getting the gts
I actually think it might help values as a halo model that raises the caymans overall profile
Cunning plan by the Germans. I actually think it might help values as a halo model that raises the caymans overall profile
d thing is this - I will want another proper NA Porsche in about 5 years. I will have to pay about a billion squids for a decent 997.2 or 991.1 by then, I think.hi guys.
The chaps at my OPC Porsche centre Sutton Coldfield)are being as helpful as they can. I am told that they took a total of 6 deposits and are not taking anymore. Although I was the first person at the dealership to actually deposit (by 10 a.m on the first day) I am third on the list because 2 people who had letters of intent proceeded to deposit on the car. I have been told by the salesman that I will get a car. I have just spoken with the sales manager and he confirms that they have heard that there will be a total of 124 cars so just over 3 cars per OPC. He has no idea as yet, however, when they will receive their allocation.
The chaps at my OPC Porsche centre Sutton Coldfield)are being as helpful as they can. I am told that they took a total of 6 deposits and are not taking anymore. Although I was the first person at the dealership to actually deposit (by 10 a.m on the first day) I am third on the list because 2 people who had letters of intent proceeded to deposit on the car. I have been told by the salesman that I will get a car. I have just spoken with the sales manager and he confirms that they have heard that there will be a total of 124 cars so just over 3 cars per OPC. He has no idea as yet, however, when they will receive their allocation.
cymario said:
hi guys.
The chaps at my OPC Porsche centre Sutton Coldfield)are being as helpful as they can. I am told that they took a total of 6 deposits and are not taking anymore. Although I was the first person at the dealership to actually deposit (by 10 a.m on the first day) I am third on the list because 2 people who had letters of intent proceeded to deposit on the car. I have been told by the salesman that I will get a car. I have just spoken with the sales manager and he confirms that they have heard that there will be a total of 124 cars so just over 3 cars per OPC. He has no idea as yet, however, when they will receive their allocation.
The chaps at my OPC Porsche centre Sutton Coldfield)are being as helpful as they can. I am told that they took a total of 6 deposits and are not taking anymore. Although I was the first person at the dealership to actually deposit (by 10 a.m on the first day) I am third on the list because 2 people who had letters of intent proceeded to deposit on the car. I have been told by the salesman that I will get a car. I have just spoken with the sales manager and he confirms that they have heard that there will be a total of 124 cars so just over 3 cars per OPC. He has no idea as yet, however, when they will receive their allocation.
3 cars per OPC?Do you know if 124 in total or for this year? Hopefully 124 for this year! Keeping my fingers crossed Bournemouth can get me one....
cymario said:
hi guys.
The chaps at my OPC Porsche centre Sutton Coldfield)are being as helpful as they can. I am told that they took a total of 6 deposits and are not taking anymore. Although I was the first person at the dealership to actually deposit (by 10 a.m on the first day) I am third on the list because 2 people who had letters of intent proceeded to deposit on the car. I have been told by the salesman that I will get a car. I have just spoken with the sales manager and he confirms that they have heard that there will be a total of 124 cars so just over 3 cars per OPC. He has no idea as yet, however, when they will receive their allocation.
The chaps at my OPC Porsche centre Sutton Coldfield)are being as helpful as they can. I am told that they took a total of 6 deposits and are not taking anymore. Although I was the first person at the dealership to actually deposit (by 10 a.m on the first day) I am third on the list because 2 people who had letters of intent proceeded to deposit on the car. I have been told by the salesman that I will get a car. I have just spoken with the sales manager and he confirms that they have heard that there will be a total of 124 cars so just over 3 cars per OPC. He has no idea as yet, however, when they will receive their allocation.
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