Cayman GT4 - Porsche now accepting deposits. (Jan 2015.)

[P155flaps]

Was told by someone linked to Porsche MS 124 for this year and similar amount next year.

My local OP has confirmed this eve they will get 4 this year some time between July and December. Looks like others are 3 cars this year. Which across 38 dealers means 124 is probably bang on.

I am 6th on list and my dealer has said I won't get one from this years batch but will get one from next years allocation.

That probably means will get sometime between Jan and June next year.

I am going to hold out for that and get something else in the mean time that I can sell before the GT4 lands.

[fseyyad]

is there any information on variation to this 3 or 4 for each dealer? such as 5/6 for very large dealer 2 for small one.
Did anyone hear of allocation greater than 4 for this year?

[DiscoColin]

Left field question - has anyone tried placing an order for a UK C16 from an overseas dealership for these yet? If they are all sold out over here, that might not necessarily mean that they are throughout Europe? Might even save money the way that the Euro is going at the moment...

[franki68]

DiscoColin said:

Left field question - has anyone tried placing an order for a UK C16 from an overseas dealership for these yet? If they are all sold out over here, that might not necessarily mean that they are throughout Europe? Might even save money the way that the Euro is going at the moment...

I thought you couldnt with the gt3 dont see why the gt4 will be different.

[TheAnimal]

franki68 said:

DiscoColin said:

Left field question - has anyone tried placing an order for a UK C16 from an overseas dealership for these yet? If they are all sold out over here, that might not necessarily mean that they are throughout Europe? Might even save money the way that the Euro is going at the moment...

I thought you couldnt with the gt3 dont see why the gt4 will be different.

Yes you can get a UK C16 RHD car from Europe. Only a few countries will willingly do them and the great thing is some will actually give you a real contract to deliver rather than some random position on an imaginary list. If you really want one you can go down this route.

[franki68]

TheAnimal said:

Yes you can get a UK C16 RHD car from Europe. Only a few countries will willingly do them and the great thing is some will actually give you a real contract to deliver rather than some random position on an imaginary list. If you really want one you can go down this route.

Don't need to since I'm getting a gt4 now ,but wish I hadlnown that about the gt3 ,they were still available in Europe afew months ago.

[andyP123456]

TheAnimal said:

franki68 said:

DiscoColin said:

Left field question - has anyone tried placing an order for a UK C16 from an overseas dealership for these yet? If they are all sold out over here, that might not necessarily mean that they are throughout Europe? Might even save money the way that the Euro is going at the moment...

I thought you couldnt with the gt3 dont see why the gt4 will be different.

Yes you can get a UK C16 RHD car from Europe. Only a few countries will willingly do them and the great thing is some will actually give you a real contract to deliver rather than some random position on an imaginary list. If you really want one you can go down this route.

Can you say which dealers in Europe will supply? Thanks

[dom9]

TheAnimal said:

Yes you can get a UK C16 RHD car from Europe. Only a few countries will willingly do them and the great thing is some will actually give you a real contract to deliver rather than some random position on an imaginary list. If you really want one you can go down this route.

Is it just the RHD countries or could you order from Germany/ factory, for example?

[TheAnimal]

dom9 said:

Is it just the RHD countries or could you order from Germany/ factory, for example?

You can get one from a German dealer too. Just go on Porsche's website and email the dealers directly to see who can offer you one.

[dom9]

TheAnimal said:

You can get one from a German dealer too. Just go on Porsche's website and email the dealers directly to see who can offer you one.

Very interesting... Might well use this information over the weekend...

[AdamV12V]

Nice idea, and base price at 85,776 euros, it works out at £63,474 (todays rate) so a tiny bit cheaper, but don't have you to pay import duty or such like?

[fseyyad]

you pay VAT at the rate of the destination country rather than the rate in Germany - did such an import few years ago. the rate is 19% in germany and VAT is 20% here.

[andyP123456]

TheAnimal said:

franki68 said:

DiscoColin said:

Left field question - has anyone tried placing an order for a UK C16 from an overseas dealership for these yet? If they are all sold out over here, that might not necessarily mean that they are throughout Europe? Might even save money the way that the Euro is going at the moment...

I thought you couldnt with the gt3 dont see why the gt4 will be different.

Yes you can get a UK C16 RHD car from Europe. Only a few countries will willingly do them and the great thing is some will actually give you a real contract to deliver rather than some random position on an imaginary list. If you really want one you can go down this route.

Can you say which dealers in Europe will supply? Thanks

[AdamV12V]

fseyyad said:

you pay VAT at the rate of the destination country rather than the rate in Germany - did such an import few years ago. the rate is 19% in germany and VAT is 20% here.

Hmm, just googled HMRC and it says


3. VAT and tax: vehicles from within the EU

You usually need to pay VAT if you import a vehicle from within the EU.

You must also pay vehicle tax from the date your vehicle is registered with DVLA.

...

Reclaim VAT paid in the EU

You can reclaim the VAT you paid in another EU country. Send the Certificate of VAT you receive from HMRC to the person you bought the vehicle from.


https://www.gov.uk/importing-vehicles-into-the-uk/...

So what that is saying is that you pay for it in Germany, then pay another 20% VAT in the UK but then reclaim the VAT at 19% paid in Germany - thus the price in the example I used about would increase by 1%.

Edited by AdamV12V on Friday 13th February 16:13

[andyP123456]

have emailed dealers in France, Germany Italy and Belgium so for not a positive response all but one say they cannot supply RHD but they all have build slots available for LHD starting in May!!!!! The Italian only has 1 GT4 this year and its sold just fancied a drive home throughout the mountains still awaiting replies from others. The one who maybe able to help says car has to be registered in country then i have to export myself and claim back VAT and any other charges

[Sierra Mike]

TheAnimal said:

Historical customers get screwed too despite supporting the brand for many years and showing complete loyalty to the OPC... Also not welcoming new customers means no new relationships can be built. I guess this is why nobody trusts car salesmen...!

I know the feeling. I've stopped using my local OPC so ordered the GT4 in June 2014 with another dealer further afield. Ultimately I had no confidence in this OPC supplying me with a car so, despite having the first LOI by some margin, I formally withdrew the LOI and placed an order elsewhere. I've been assured I will receive an early car unless cars are prioritised to 918 customers by PCGB. That's fine with me.

In my opinion, the LOIs don't matter and it's entirely down to the DP unless PCGB override him for a 918 customer. Some DPs are great whilst others suck; I've known both. At the end of the day it all comes down to relationship and trust. If there's little to no prior relationship, a person will be lucky to get a car in my opinion.

[dvshannow]

Sierra Mike said:

I know the feeling. I've stopped using my local OPC so ordered the GT4 in June 2014 with another dealer further afield. Ultimately I had no confidence in this OPC supplying me with a car so, despite having the first LOI by some margin, I formally withdrew the LOI and placed an order elsewhere. I've been assured I will receive an early car unless cars are prioritised to 918 customers by PCGB. That's fine with me.

In my opinion, the LOIs don't matter and it's entirely down to the DP unless PCGB override him for a 918 customer. Some DPs are great whilst others suck; I've known both. At the end of the day it all comes down to relationship and trust. If there's little to no prior relationship, a person will be lucky to get a car in my opinion.

This is agree so why switch to a non-local opc? I did same actually as my local seemed generally clueless and disinterest preferring to tell me how great the 911gts is...now we don't have cars yet and I've not been assured just suggested that am in a good position to get one, so it's possible our local is the honest ones though does not explain Their lack of information.

[anonymous-user]

I really do not understand the priority thing for 918 owners.

What is Porsches rationale for that?

[EricE]

garyhun said:

I really do not understand the priority thing for 918 owners.

What is Porsches rationale for that?

I believe Porsche had a hard time selling all of the cars (918 of them?) and so they incentivized potential customers with perks like order priority on new cars.
Porsche America even set up a hotline where 918 owners could ask one of the factory drivers for "driving tips" around the clock.

[Inverted]

Sierra Mike said:

I know the feeling. I've stopped using my local OPC so ordered the GT4 in June 2014 with another dealer further afield. Ultimately I had no confidence in this OPC supplying me with a car so, despite having the first LOI by some margin, I formally withdrew the LOI and placed an order elsewhere. I've been assured I will receive an early car unless cars are prioritised to 918 customers by PCGB. That's fine with me.

In my opinion, the LOIs don't matter and it's entirely down to the DP unless PCGB override him for a 918 customer. Some DPs are great whilst others suck; I've known both. At the end of the day it all comes down to relationship and trust. If there's little to no prior relationship, a person will be lucky to get a car in my opinion.

If this is an OPC north of leeds and south of Edinburgh then I can see your reasoning behind that. Wish I hadnt try to stick with my local dealer. lesson learnt