GT4 buyers thread
Discussion
Steve Rance said:
So how many of you chaps are opting for the basic car with just a club sport package?
to my mind when you start doing that,why buy a cayman ? if you care so much about track times and want to do most of the driving on the track why not get an atom or something that is a pure track toy ?most of the buyers it seems want a fun road car they can track ,rather than a track car they can occasionally use on the road.
franki68 said:
to my mind when you start doing that,why buy a cayman ? if you care so much about track times and want to do most of the driving on the track why not get an atom or something that is a pure track toy ?
most of the buyers it seems want a fun road car they can track ,rather than a track car they can occasionally use on the road.
It doesn't really matter whether it is a track car you can drive on the road or a road car you drive on track. If you have any intention of using it on track then buckets and harnesses must be a prime consideration. They make the track driving far more enjoyable, add a sense of occasion, as well as some safety factor. most of the buyers it seems want a fun road car they can track ,rather than a track car they can occasionally use on the road.
If you are only driving on the road then there is no real need for either, though buckets still feel better than any sport seat to me.
“We underestimated the success of the Cayman GT4, which shows that we were right with the concept. In England, within three days two years of cars were sold. It happened in Sweden, it happened in Germany…everywhere,” he said. [A Preuniger]
http://www.gtspirit.com/2015/03/08/even-more-hardc...
http://www.gtspirit.com/2015/03/08/even-more-hardc...
jackwood said:
It doesn't really matter whether it is a track car you can drive on the road or a road car you drive on track. If you have any intention of using it on track then buckets and harnesses must be a prime consideration. They make the track driving far more enjoyable, add a sense of occasion, as well as some safety factor.
If you are only driving on the road then there is no real need for either, though buckets still feel better than any sport seat to me.
Indeed ,but disregard the buckets ,I think most will be specced with the buckets because they look superb.i was more talking about the roll cage aspect and lack of creature comforts ,and the fact that you can buy a better track toy if you are going to solely track it.If you are only driving on the road then there is no real need for either, though buckets still feel better than any sport seat to me.
Also Problem is you do look a t
t with a cage in the car if most of your driving is on the road.To me personally a GT4 without the Clubsport package seems pointless. To me it's a track car that can be driven to and from the track, but it's not a "daily driver" as anybody who as seen the overhangs and ground clearance will tell you. At least not where I live!
So I'd definitely want to fit a real harness and eventually a HANS system. Admittedly was hoping the car would be a bit "softer" like the CR but it is what it is. PASM seems pointless because even Porsche suggests using the "normal" setting on street-like tracks like the Nordschleife which is where I do most of my driving.
So I'd definitely want to fit a real harness and eventually a HANS system. Admittedly was hoping the car would be a bit "softer" like the CR but it is what it is. PASM seems pointless because even Porsche suggests using the "normal" setting on street-like tracks like the Nordschleife which is where I do most of my driving.
I don't think anyone buying a porsche gt car will expect it to be a daily drive , but for the vast majority the car will be driven mostly on the road.Personally it will be a weekend toy for me, I will (if I like it) use it 2-3 times a year on the track , not worth having a roll cage in it for that .
Based on the comments on forums on here , I would suggest most of those buying one expect it to be used more on the road
Based on the comments on forums on here , I would suggest most of those buying one expect it to be used more on the road
swimd said:
To me personally a GT4 without the Clubsport package seems pointless. To me it's a track car that can be driven to and from the track, but it's not a "daily driver" as anybody who as seen the overhangs and ground clearance will tell you. At least not where I live!
So I'd definitely want to fit a real harness and eventually a HANS system. Admittedly was hoping the car would be a bit "softer" like the CR but it is what it is. PASM seems pointless because even Porsche suggests using the "normal" setting on street-like tracks like the Nordschleife which is where I do most of my driving.
to me a Clubsport track car with PASM is stupid so each to their own, PASM has never worked on a track car to date and it has a Audi interior, it's not a track car, I bet the pads are not track spec either nor the fluid and you will prob have to dial in another -1 degree of camber also from oem.So I'd definitely want to fit a real harness and eventually a HANS system. Admittedly was hoping the car would be a bit "softer" like the CR but it is what it is. PASM seems pointless because even Porsche suggests using the "normal" setting on street-like tracks like the Nordschleife which is where I do most of my driving.
PorscheGT4 said:
to me a Clubsport track car with PASM is stupid so each to their own, PASM has never worked on a track car to date and it has a Audi interior, it's not a track car, I bet the pads are not track spec either nor the fluid and you will prob have to dial in another -1 degree of camber also from oem.
That's a pretty bold and erroneous statement. It implies Porsche is unable to improve upon them. You been on track with a well driven 991 Gt3? Ineffective is one word I wouldn't use.It should have Gt3 pads which last i heard although dusts a lot are pretty effective.
Camber/toe, you can do what you desire
I tried to keep it lower spec so stayed away from Carbon/ Aluminium Interior bits, but went for Club Sport, which for me is a must for this car and then some options I think improve the car for look and for my usage, PCM, Telephone & Bluetooth, Sport Chrono, Carmine Red with Red Stitching on the interior.
As to driving GT cars everyday, it really depends what you do and where you drive; I am fortunate enough not to have to work in a suit and have motorway/ dual carriageways only to work & back. In the past 10 years I have had two GT3s that I drove every day, both with buckets and cages and I am currently driving a GT2 pretty much every day, I do have to consider where I am going and where I am going to park sometimes, but from a driving point of view there are great fun to drive daily.
As to driving GT cars everyday, it really depends what you do and where you drive; I am fortunate enough not to have to work in a suit and have motorway/ dual carriageways only to work & back. In the past 10 years I have had two GT3s that I drove every day, both with buckets and cages and I am currently driving a GT2 pretty much every day, I do have to consider where I am going and where I am going to park sometimes, but from a driving point of view there are great fun to drive daily.
HokumPokum said:
That's a pretty bold and erroneous statement. It implies Porsche is unable to improve upon them. You been on track with a well driven 991 Gt3? Ineffective is one word I wouldn't use.
+1 I have had the pleasure of driving a good many laps on a few different circuits in the 991 GT3 and ineffective isn't a term that springs to mindNAS90 said:
I tried to keep it lower spec so stayed away from Carbon/ Aluminium Interior bits, but went for Club Sport, which for me is a must for this car and then some options I think improve the car for look and for my usage, PCM, Telephone & Bluetooth, Sport Chrono, Carmine Red with Red Stitching on the interior.
As to driving GT cars everyday, it really depends what you do and where you drive; I am fortunate enough not to have to work in a suit and have motorway/ dual carriageways only to work & back. In the past 10 years I have had two GT3s that I drove every day, both with buckets and cages and I am currently driving a GT2 pretty much every day, I do have to consider where I am going and where I am going to park sometimes, but from a driving point of view there are great fun to drive daily.
There isn't a right or wrong,it is individual preference,you could live with those cars on a daily basis,I couldnt ,as much as I love the gt3s it would again be a weekend car for me .As to driving GT cars everyday, it really depends what you do and where you drive; I am fortunate enough not to have to work in a suit and have motorway/ dual carriageways only to work & back. In the past 10 years I have had two GT3s that I drove every day, both with buckets and cages and I am currently driving a GT2 pretty much every day, I do have to consider where I am going and where I am going to park sometimes, but from a driving point of view there are great fun to drive daily.
The point is there isn't a right spec/wrong spec ,it's down to the buyer ,their needs and likes and dislikes.
PorscheGT4 said:
to me a Clubsport track car with PASM is stupid so each to their own, PASM has never worked on a track car to date and it has a Audi interior, it's not a track car, I bet the pads are not track spec either nor the fluid and you will prob have to dial in another -1 degree of camber also from oem.
991 GT3 (and RS) both have PASM with the settings "a bit stiff" and "rock hard", whether their suspensions "work" or if they qualify "track cars" is your decision...It is marketed as a GT car so I'd be very surprised if the supplied OEM pads and fluid do not hold up on the track. Porsches are known to often have less than perfect alignment from the factory so I'd want it checked anyway, adjusting an extra -1° of camber shouldn't break the bank in the grand scheme of things.
I completely agree on the Audiesque interior but that — and active suspensions* — are the way forward, the older tech and design is just that... old. Which is not to say that it is worse. I would actually prefer the older, lower quality interior for these cars but the average GT4 buyer would declare me crazy for such an opinion.
* who knows, maybe the new Spyder will get a X73 suspension.
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