Cayman GTS on Top Gear

Cayman GTS on Top Gear

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Klippie

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3,096 posts

144 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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Hammond tests it on the track with a Corvette.

See here - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05469cm

ianwayne

6,243 posts

267 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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On in 5 mins on BBC2 (repeated salt flat documentary earlier was worth a watch too, pt 2 next week).

ClarkPB

818 posts

199 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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Glowing brake discs!

Trotmant

385 posts

113 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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I'm still wondering why they spent half the show talking about st pugs rather than a more in depth review of either the corvette and gts.

Also worth saying that I personally (apart from price) didn't see the point in comparing a ~600bhp car vs ~340bhp. Would have been better to compare to other cars in same class.

Super cool would have been clarkson reviewig it against the gen 1 coxster to see if his views had moved on.

Rather disappointed with top gear this series

straightsixmik

192 posts

175 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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Trotmant said:
I'm still wondering why they spent half the show talking about st pugs rather than a more in depth review of either the corvette and gts.

Also worth saying that I personally (apart from price) didn't see the point in comparing a ~600bhp car vs ~340bhp. Would have been better to compare to other cars in same class.

Super cool would have been clarkson reviewig it against the gen 1 coxster to see if his views had moved on.

Rather disappointed with top gear this series
Agree. The drag race as pointless as it was, wasn't totally embarrassing. I was rather surprised

Dblue

3,252 posts

199 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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Its the same price, the new Vette is clearly excellent. Why would you not think its a reasonable comparison???

And its the regular Vette with 460bhp not the Z06 which has been jousting against 991 GT3s in the press.


sidicks

25,218 posts

220 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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Trotmant said:
I'm still wondering why they spent half the show talking about st pugs rather than a more in depth review of either the corvette and gts.

Also worth saying that I personally (apart from price) didn't see the point in comparing a ~600bhp car vs ~340bhp. Would have been better to compare to other cars in same class.

Super cool would have been clarkson reviewig it against the gen 1 coxster to see if his views had moved on.

Rather disappointed with top gear this series
Didn't they test the 460bho version?

Trotmant

385 posts

113 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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sidicks said:
Trotmant said:
I'm still wondering why they spent half the show talking about st pugs rather than a more in depth review of either the corvette and gts.

Also worth saying that I personally (apart from price) didn't see the point in comparing a ~600bhp car vs ~340bhp. Would have been better to compare to other cars in same class.

Super cool would have been clarkson reviewig it against the gen 1 coxster to see if his views had moved on.

Rather disappointed with top gear this series
Didn't they test the 460bho version?
Maybe I was dreaming, but I swore they said it was 600 something bhp or was that the torque?


sidicks

25,218 posts

220 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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Trotmant said:
Maybe I was dreaming, but I swore they said it was 600 something bhp or was that the torque?

I'm pretty sure they referred to 460bhp and the same amount of 'torques'...

Trotmant

385 posts

113 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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Agree. The drag race as pointless as it was, wasn't totally embarrassing. I was rather surprised
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Yeah agree. I was willing it on with its lap time, Mrs was looking at me weird shouting at the TV. Thought it lost it on the last two corners. I wonder what spec they were running i.e. with PVT or without

miroku

261 posts

152 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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You're shocked that Top Gear do something pointless?

pete.g

1,527 posts

205 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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Is the Corvette available in RHD?

It did seem a contrived comparison.

The Peugeot bit took labouring a point to a new level. I'd just have shown more of Salonen, Vatanen and Kankunnen in the T16 - proper drivers in a proper car.

Trotmant

385 posts

113 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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sidicks said:
Trotmant said:
Maybe I was dreaming, but I swore they said it was 600 something bhp or was that the torque?

I'm pretty sure they referred to 460bhp and the same amount of 'torques'...
Well I think my point is still valid, i.e. its carrying an +100bhp lets be honest a 911 s would have been a better comparison for power to handling (states vs. Euro).

Trotmant

385 posts

113 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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miroku said:
You're shocked that Top Gear do something pointless?
I don't mind pointless they've always done that, but the car reviews on this series seem really wooly. In the past I feel they have been much more holistic i.e. you only have to watch the gen 1 cayman s review, where to be fair apart from Clarksons own views, its a very fair reflection of the car imo. (and i used to own one so would agree with the pro's and con's.) with tonights episode didn't really explore this.

They keep putting james may in cars also, he is the worst. I wish they would stop this.

nsm3

2,831 posts

195 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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That brief shot of the 405 Mi16 twanged at my heart strings - I had a red one back in 1990 as a Company steer - loved it.

DS240

4,636 posts

217 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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The news 'banter' ended up being a bit painful, switched off a bit for that.

Peugeot segment could have been much better, although funny in parts, the poor driving bit was stretched to the max. I do wonder how they get away with the driving standards on open public roads though.

Like others have said, more of the cayman/corvette or the La Ferrari would have been good.

I did assume it was the Z06 on test, but if it was the normal one, I'm quite impressed. I do like the idea of one (the v8 rumble at Le mans does that), but just not brave enough and then there is the image. How fast is the Z06 then!

_Leg_

2,798 posts

210 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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DS240 said:
I do wonder how they get away with the driving standards on open public roads though.
Pretend they're in Bradford?

Problem with TG is that the car reviews are woefully behind the times and it's all been done by better people on You Tube already and the "silly" bits are, well, just plain silly.

They once did relevant reviews, then they did entertaining stuff, now they seem to be lost in between.

straightsixmik

192 posts

175 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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What I couldn't get my head around with the Corvette review was that hammond was changing gear manually, and then in other shots the wheel he was holding had paddles.

It was interesting during the oversteer shots, the Cayman was oversteering but its nose always hit the apex, the corvette on the other hand looked absolutely all over the place. I would really struggle to throw a vette round on the road in that manner, while I would feel incredibly comfortable doing it in the Cayman

Also thought the manual gearbox in the vette looked incredibly agricultural when Hammond was shifting.




bcr5784

7,102 posts

144 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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While I don't have much (normally not any) time for Top Gear, if there is any relevance in their tests, it begs the question of whether the Corvette is faster than a GT4 as well. And if it was how many potential GT4 owners would cancel their orders? Very few, I suspect, if only because most of their other halves would baulk at co-habiting with a lap dancer....

EricE

1,945 posts

128 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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bcr5784 said:
While I don't have much (normally not any) time for Top Gear, if there is any relevance in their tests, it begs the question of whether the Corvette is faster than a GT4 as well.
I suspect the Corvette and GTS were running Michelin Pilot Super Sports, the GT4 comes with Sport Cup 2 standard.
Put those tyres on the GTS and it'd be as fast as the Corvette, that doesn't even account for the larger tyres, higher power output, different aero and modified suspension on the GT4.