Very excited! Collecting my Boxster GTS on the 23rd...
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bcr5784 said:
However, re performance - if that is really an issue to you - unless you are going to be far more abusive to your gearbox than most owners would be, you won't get close to pdk acceleration with a manual. To get the acceleration figures road testers do, they keep the throttle pinned to the floor when changing gear and let the engine bounce off the rev limiter, and then pop the clutch. It's that brutal.
I accept that the PDK is faster, but for me it's less about absolute acceleration statistics than it is about immediacy of response when powering through some S curves or accelerating in gear. I know that the PDK comes with launch control but I won't be trying to beat other Boxsters away from the lights. As you say the old debate is purely a matter of preference. I like the tactile experience of changing gear. The character of the box matters and by all accounts this one is a peach.
Huskyman said:
I agree with you whole heartedly re the dual zone, and there is a sync button there as well to match the zone temperatures so you wish. I have seen videos of performance testing, and with a manual it makes you wince as you can hear the gearchanges being smashed through at full throttle...
I originally specced the PCM sat-nav system, but cancelled it as I use my phone for sat-nav duties, and saved myself 2.5k in the process
I'm used to Tom Tom, and I like being warned about speed traps. I am also hoping to find a unit which both gives me Nav and a GoPro type camera which are becoming essential these days. As you say, 2.5k for a built in Nav system is bonkers. To give you an idea of the extent to which Porsche are taking the piss, a VW Golf GT comes with Nav as standard. A VW Golf Match 1.6 TDi at £19k comes as standard with Adaptive Cruise Control. It must cost them all of 90 quid to fit.I originally specced the PCM sat-nav system, but cancelled it as I use my phone for sat-nav duties, and saved myself 2.5k in the process
cardigankid said:
I accept that the PDK is faster, but for me it's less about absolute acceleration statistics than it is about immediacy of response when powering through some S curves or accelerating in gear. I know that the PDK comes with launch control but I won't be trying to beat other Boxsters away from the lights.
As you say the old debate is purely a matter of preference. I like the tactile experience of changing gear. The character of the box matters and by all accounts this one is a peach.
The immediacy of response, when powering through some S curves is exactly the same?As you say the old debate is purely a matter of preference. I like the tactile experience of changing gear. The character of the box matters and by all accounts this one is a peach.
cardigankid said:
That's just about what I had in mind. How do you find the PCCB's?
Very very good, no regrets! Progressive and precise. No issues in the wet, or when cold which some have reported with the earlier generation PCCB. Very little brake dust either. Having driven standard and PCCB equipped cars at Silverstone, the ride quality and steering feel is also improved.With white I really recommend the GTS exterior pack, congrats brilliantly with the white - mine is Carrara White metallic.
Edited by dreamcar on Saturday 28th March 21:36
dreamcar said:
Very very good, no regrets! Progressive and precise. No issues in the wet, or when cold which some have reported with the earlier generation PCCB. Very little brake dust either. Having driven standard and PCCB equipped cars at Silverstone, the ride quality and steering feel is also improved.
With white I really recommend the GTS exterior pack, congrats brilliantly with the white - mine is Carrara White metallic.
Those radiators look a bit exposedWith white I really recommend the GTS exterior pack, congrats brilliantly with the white - mine is Carrara White metallic.
Edited by dreamcar on Saturday 28th March 21:36
nsm3 said:
The immediacy of response, when powering through some S curves is exactly the same?
Not quite with you. I am thinking that a car which is that little bit lighter will hold the road that tiny bit better and pick up speed that little bit faster. Maybe I'm deluding myself, but brakes weigh quite a lot.cardigankid said:
nsm3 said:
The immediacy of response, when powering through some S curves is exactly the same?
Not quite with you. I am thinking that a car which is that little bit lighter will hold the road that tiny bit better and pick up speed that little bit faster. Maybe I'm deluding myself, but brakes weigh quite a lot.cardigankid said:
Not quite with you. I am thinking that a car which is that little bit lighter will hold the road that tiny bit better and pick up speed that little bit faster. Maybe I'm deluding myself, but brakes weigh quite a lot.
The only real way of telling whether you are deluding yourself is to try steel and PCCBs back to back (it's an expensive delusion if you are!). If you are getting a PEC day then, as others have posted, try and and arrange it. From what you say earlier re the manual gearbox (I presume you haven't tried one) it does sound like a bit more research would be a good idea (and a lot of fun!)SHIFTY said:
Grills from Zunsport have them on my BGTS keeps all the cr*p out and looks better.
They're going to love me at Zuffenhausen when I rock up and ask them if they'd mind fitting some after market grilles because the standard equipment is s
te. Nevertheless, that's what I'll do. I thought I might take it to a detailer in Stuttgart immediately after collection. He could do it I suppose. bcr5784 said:
Re dual zone - it's not the dual zone which is important, it's the fact that it's climate not simple aircon. I'm not sure from what you say that difference is important to you, but may be. There's no issue in keeping the two sides the same if that is what you prefer.
I don't really understand that at all. As far as I am concerned if you have AC it should blow icy cold. Climate Control sounds sexier but what does that mean in practice? Plus of course when you drop the roof none of it makes any difference at all.bcr5784 said:
The only real way of telling whether you are deluding yourself is to try steel and PCCBs back to back (it's an expensive delusion if you are!). If you are getting a PEC day then, as others have posted, try and and arrange it. From what you say earlier re the manual gearbox (I presume you haven't tried one) it does sound like a bit more research would be a good idea (and a lot of fun!)
What seems to be THE two most emotive subjects - manual or PDK? And iron brakes or PCCB!!! cardigankid said:
bcr5784 said:
Re dual zone - it's not the dual zone which is important, it's the fact that it's climate not simple aircon. I'm not sure from what you say that difference is important to you, but may be. There's no issue in keeping the two sides the same if that is what you prefer.
I don't really understand that at all. As far as I am concerned if you have AC it should blow icy cold. Climate Control sounds sexier but what does that mean in practice? Plus of course when you drop the roof none of it makes any difference at all.climate is the one thing I wish I had specced on my 981 Boxster S
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