Cayman R - owners/buyers/mods
Discussion
Axel987 said:
well, I dunno... everything`s relative I guess. The Cayman R is 50 kiloes lighter than a Cayman S.... is that nothing either then?
every little bit helps...
My point in a round about way was is there not a better way for you to spend that money to get something more tangible from your experience with the car? Saving 5-10kgs is different to saving 50kgs, after all it's as much as 10 times again. 50kgs is almost the weight of a full tank of fuel or a dainty passenger, and I have seen on a geo rig what effect that has when weighting a car up, whereas 5-10kgs is probably a big dump for some of the more powerfully built director PH types every little bit helps...
Beanoir said:
Washed, polished and waxed the car today, took a few photos but just outside the front of my house as I couldn't be bothered to try and find anywhere else! Didn't turn out too bad though.
Cut the bloody lawn!
Looks special that, good to see you on here Beanoir, how's the XR2?
robj4 said:
Cut the bloody lawn!
Looks special that, good to see you on here Beanoir, how's the XR2?
Ha! That is cut! Looks special that, good to see you on here Beanoir, how's the XR2?
The XR2 (i'm assuming you've been following my build thread?) has hit a rather annoying problem, spun a bearing and engine needs to come back out and be re-built after only 500 miles...gutted
Did you pop for a GTS in the end Rob?But here she is...
That's a shame, I've not been on Vagoc for a while but had enjoyed watching the work you put into the XR2, and your Cayman R looks very well sorted indeed. -I must drop back in there to catch up with you getting the Ford onto the road. hope you get it going again soon.
Only just got into a position to order a GTS, due in August. Really I should have taken more time and found a Cayman R like yours, but the shiny toys hypnotised me.
Only just got into a position to order a GTS, due in August. Really I should have taken more time and found a Cayman R like yours, but the shiny toys hypnotised me.
Beanoir said:
Ha! That is cut!
The XR2 (i'm assuming you've been following my build thread?) has hit a rather annoying problem, spun a bearing and engine needs to come back out and be re-built after only 500 miles...gutted Did you pop for a GTS in the end Rob?
But here she is...
Wish I had space for a garage!The XR2 (i'm assuming you've been following my build thread?) has hit a rather annoying problem, spun a bearing and engine needs to come back out and be re-built after only 500 miles...gutted
Did you pop for a GTS in the end Rob?But here she is...
Very jealous.
robj4 said:
That's a shame, I've not been on Vagoc for a while but had enjoyed watching the work you put into the XR2, and your Cayman R looks very well sorted indeed. -I must drop back in there to catch up with you getting the Ford onto the road. hope you get it going again soon.
Only just got into a position to order a GTS, due in August. Really I should have taken more time and found a Cayman R like yours, but the shiny toys hypnotised me.
I've not actually updated the build thread for a while, mainly because i've not done anything to the car particularly. Its road worthy, MOT'd, taxed etc, and in theory I can drive it but thr RR tune wasn't done beecuase of the problem and in all honesty i'm best not to drive it until it's fixed - need to find some motivation! Only just got into a position to order a GTS, due in August. Really I should have taken more time and found a Cayman R like yours, but the shiny toys hypnotised me.
I like the GTS, in fact I nearly went for one myself, they're very nice cars! Look forward to seeing it.
Sarnie said:
What products are people using to clean their bucket seats??
I've got some leather cleaner for my M3 seats but obviously the bucket seats themselves are a bit Alcantara-esque.......
The leatherette outer I use a leather cleaner, the alcantara cushions just a damp (not wet) microfiber cloth seems to work well. I've got some leather cleaner for my M3 seats but obviously the bucket seats themselves are a bit Alcantara-esque.......
Sarnie said:
What products are people using to clean their bucket seats??
I've got some leather cleaner for my M3 seats but obviously the bucket seats themselves are a bit Alcantara-esque.......
I use this stuff for the Alcantara bit (good for doing the steering wheel too) - http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000007.pl...I've got some leather cleaner for my M3 seats but obviously the bucket seats themselves are a bit Alcantara-esque.......
And I use leather cleaner for the rest of them.
Sarnie said:
What products are people using to clean their bucket seats??
I've got some leather cleaner for my M3 seats but obviously the bucket seats themselves are a bit Alcantara-esque.......
Correct me if wrong, but from what I remember, all the alcantara bits come out, which makes cleaning easier.I've got some leather cleaner for my M3 seats but obviously the bucket seats themselves are a bit Alcantara-esque.......
Decent spec car listed, just can't have the colour personally;
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Update from Rennlist on the World Wide Register project.
Ok, Data summary:
So it is believed that there were 1421 total Cayman R's produced in the transition from the 987 to the 981. There is no 2013 Cayman model year. All Cayamn R's in North America were considered a 2012 model year. Cars for the rest of the world are sometimes designated (in advertising)as either model year 2011 or 2012. I believe Porsche considered all Cayman R's model year 2012. It is documented that there were 563 Cayman R's exported to the US market and 61 to the Canadian market. That leaves 797 cars for the rest of the world. It was believed that the production serial numbers ranged from 792065-793487, and we know that cars were produced and assembled in Finland as well as Germany. It is believed the early production cars were built in Finland under contract with Valet Automotive and later cars were built at Porsches factory in Germany. You can identify the location of your cars build by the letters proceeding the last 6 digits of the Vin number. CS stands for Cayman's built in Germany and CU are Caymans built in Finland. As we know,the Cayman R came well equipped and is a car that is very comfortable on the track as well as the street. The Cayman R was available in 11 Standard/ metallic colors and in general 4 interior packages. It has been postulated that most cars were ordered by the dealers and consumers in the tradition popular Porsche colors. Guards Red, Carrera White, Black and Platinum Silver. All of Porsche's advertising used a new special color formulated for the R called Peridot Metallic. This was a non-tradition color and it was estimated that only 10% of the cars produced were in this color. Of course special order cars were always welcome. Among other things, it came standard with a 6 speed manual transmission, and either sport leather seats or carbon fiber (GT3)race seats.
When i was doing my research on the Cayman R it was clear that the details around it's production cycle was spotty at best. Yet this is truly a limited production very special car. It had been 40 years since that last time Porsche Management had approved the R designation for a model, and clearly the first time it was ever assigned to a Cayman.
So enough of history and what we thought we knew.
I started this Registry to try to fine tune our basic knowledge of what the actual numbers for some key measurables might be.
Mix of U vs S produced cars, manufacture date, manual vs PDK, sport leather seats vs Carbon fiber bucket seats, color, and current location of the cars.
The response to the registry has been great. I first posted it on this site and since then the post has been linked to at least 4 other sites that address the world wide market.
Here is what i have found so far in the data from the first 94 cars registered:
I have included only cars with complete data...except I have included cars that have all data except the actual build date as many folks didnt know or register that information.
We only have 7 people that have registered with cars from out side the US. We believe we have 2 of the 3 Cayman R's that are believed to have been delivered to New Zealand, one from South Africa, only one from Germany, and three from the UK. All the rest are US cars.
We have vin numbers ranging from 790112-793544 a range of 3432?
It seems true that early cars(early Vin number and manufacturing dates) are manufactured in Finland...but not all! The earliest U (Finland) car is 790112 and the last U car registered is 793098. Interestingly enough we have two cars, on manufactured in Finland and one in Germany with the same numerical Vin number but one is a CU and the other is a CS car? I am not sure yet how that plays out?
The range of manufacturing dates on the cars registered range from 2/11 to 3/12.
The % of the cars registered by color are as follows; Peridot Metallic 24.4%, Carrera White 22.3%, Black 19%, Platinum Silver 12.7%, Aqua Blue Metallic 7.4%, Guards Red 6.4%, Meteor Gray Metallic 4.3%, Speed Yellow 2% and Vesuvio (special order) 1%.
The split between manual and PDK is , 51% manual and 49% PDK.
Percent with sport carbon fiber seats is 41% the majority of the cars have leather sport seats.
Only 18% have PDK and Carbon fiber seats, 24% have manual transmission and carbon fiber seats.
It looks like the change over time frame for German only manufactured cars may be around 10/11. But, up until that date we have cars produced at both factories?
It is still early and the data base is clearly biased by US cars, but I am hopeful that as we gather more data we will get a clearer picture of what occurred and how accepted the original estimates were.
We are working off of some big assumptions, one of which is that all Cayman R's Vin numbers were unique and sequential. I am not sure that Cayman R serial numbers are unique. I looks like they may have fallen into the regular build sequence for the Cayman. You do see a series of serial numbers in sequence that are R builds so maybe the factory pooled R orders at times and that accounts for the pooling as well as the break and range in serial numbers. If we new exactly how many Caymans(all Models) were built in the time frame that the R's were built we could solve some of the mystery.
I will summarize more of the date as we get more.
Thanks for your support of this effort
Ok, Data summary:
So it is believed that there were 1421 total Cayman R's produced in the transition from the 987 to the 981. There is no 2013 Cayman model year. All Cayamn R's in North America were considered a 2012 model year. Cars for the rest of the world are sometimes designated (in advertising)as either model year 2011 or 2012. I believe Porsche considered all Cayman R's model year 2012. It is documented that there were 563 Cayman R's exported to the US market and 61 to the Canadian market. That leaves 797 cars for the rest of the world. It was believed that the production serial numbers ranged from 792065-793487, and we know that cars were produced and assembled in Finland as well as Germany. It is believed the early production cars were built in Finland under contract with Valet Automotive and later cars were built at Porsches factory in Germany. You can identify the location of your cars build by the letters proceeding the last 6 digits of the Vin number. CS stands for Cayman's built in Germany and CU are Caymans built in Finland. As we know,the Cayman R came well equipped and is a car that is very comfortable on the track as well as the street. The Cayman R was available in 11 Standard/ metallic colors and in general 4 interior packages. It has been postulated that most cars were ordered by the dealers and consumers in the tradition popular Porsche colors. Guards Red, Carrera White, Black and Platinum Silver. All of Porsche's advertising used a new special color formulated for the R called Peridot Metallic. This was a non-tradition color and it was estimated that only 10% of the cars produced were in this color. Of course special order cars were always welcome. Among other things, it came standard with a 6 speed manual transmission, and either sport leather seats or carbon fiber (GT3)race seats.
When i was doing my research on the Cayman R it was clear that the details around it's production cycle was spotty at best. Yet this is truly a limited production very special car. It had been 40 years since that last time Porsche Management had approved the R designation for a model, and clearly the first time it was ever assigned to a Cayman.
So enough of history and what we thought we knew.
I started this Registry to try to fine tune our basic knowledge of what the actual numbers for some key measurables might be.
Mix of U vs S produced cars, manufacture date, manual vs PDK, sport leather seats vs Carbon fiber bucket seats, color, and current location of the cars.
The response to the registry has been great. I first posted it on this site and since then the post has been linked to at least 4 other sites that address the world wide market.
Here is what i have found so far in the data from the first 94 cars registered:
I have included only cars with complete data...except I have included cars that have all data except the actual build date as many folks didnt know or register that information.
We only have 7 people that have registered with cars from out side the US. We believe we have 2 of the 3 Cayman R's that are believed to have been delivered to New Zealand, one from South Africa, only one from Germany, and three from the UK. All the rest are US cars.
We have vin numbers ranging from 790112-793544 a range of 3432?
It seems true that early cars(early Vin number and manufacturing dates) are manufactured in Finland...but not all! The earliest U (Finland) car is 790112 and the last U car registered is 793098. Interestingly enough we have two cars, on manufactured in Finland and one in Germany with the same numerical Vin number but one is a CU and the other is a CS car? I am not sure yet how that plays out?
The range of manufacturing dates on the cars registered range from 2/11 to 3/12.
The % of the cars registered by color are as follows; Peridot Metallic 24.4%, Carrera White 22.3%, Black 19%, Platinum Silver 12.7%, Aqua Blue Metallic 7.4%, Guards Red 6.4%, Meteor Gray Metallic 4.3%, Speed Yellow 2% and Vesuvio (special order) 1%.
The split between manual and PDK is , 51% manual and 49% PDK.
Percent with sport carbon fiber seats is 41% the majority of the cars have leather sport seats.
Only 18% have PDK and Carbon fiber seats, 24% have manual transmission and carbon fiber seats.
It looks like the change over time frame for German only manufactured cars may be around 10/11. But, up until that date we have cars produced at both factories?
It is still early and the data base is clearly biased by US cars, but I am hopeful that as we gather more data we will get a clearer picture of what occurred and how accepted the original estimates were.
We are working off of some big assumptions, one of which is that all Cayman R's Vin numbers were unique and sequential. I am not sure that Cayman R serial numbers are unique. I looks like they may have fallen into the regular build sequence for the Cayman. You do see a series of serial numbers in sequence that are R builds so maybe the factory pooled R orders at times and that accounts for the pooling as well as the break and range in serial numbers. If we new exactly how many Caymans(all Models) were built in the time frame that the R's were built we could solve some of the mystery.
I will summarize more of the date as we get more.
Thanks for your support of this effort
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