Cayman R - owners/buyers/mods
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te but also is a faff, my 1996 MX5 roof is more user friendly. Reminds of a guy I went to Le Mans with in his Murcielago Spyder, took about half hour to put the roof back up, ridiculous PorscheGT4 said:
edc said:
Fair comment. The roof is a bit more daily user friendly that a 987 Spyder. As much as I want a 987 Spyder the roof would just annoy me even as a second car. When I'm on a decent blast or out in Europe I don't want to have to fiddle too much with the roof if there is an unexpected shower. I also like to drive the car in winter and want to get the roof down as often as possible. The manual 981 roof sounds more like the manual roofs of 90s and previous sports cars - unlatch and throw it back.
I would say it takes just about the same time to do, because you still have to get out, walk round to both sides and undo the flaps and manual boot stays.so same as the 987.2 car, it is a pitter esp in todays weather, last month in wales I had to drive roof up because of the showers, you would have to do the same in the 981 spyder, but my mates electric roof went up and down every time it stopped and he enjoyed the welsh roads when the sun came out in 20 minutes stints.
the old car was 2 pieces and you still get that open air noise and feeling just using the main top and leaving the back pout so the cars open, I drove a lot like that in the showers, a 1/2 way house so to speak, no such option in the 981 ;-(
plus when we did get out I could open my BOOT and get my coat, you cannot do that in the 981 either !
Edited by PorscheGT4 on Friday 3rd July 13:20
you cannot open the boot unless you unclip the tails !
also on the new roof you have to walk round the car twice, on the old one only once.
It's not the extra 10 seconds which is an issue, it's not being able to put it up in showers etc, like we posted above, you have to plan your drive and have it down whenyou leave , or up, none of this down at the traffic lights sort of thing.
also on the new roof you have to walk round the car twice, on the old one only once.
It's not the extra 10 seconds which is an issue, it's not being able to put it up in showers etc, like we posted above, you have to plan your drive and have it down whenyou leave , or up, none of this down at the traffic lights sort of thing.
PorscheGT4 said:
you cannot open the boot unless you unclip the tails !
also on the new roof you have to walk round the car twice, on the old one only once.
It's not the extra 10 seconds which is an issue, it's not being able to put it up in showers etc, like we posted above, you have to plan your drive and have it down whenyou leave , or up, none of this down at the traffic lights sort of thing.
Really? It doesn't look like the boot can't be opened without unclipping the tails in the video - the boot looks like it moves out before it goes up but I could be wrong.also on the new roof you have to walk round the car twice, on the old one only once.
It's not the extra 10 seconds which is an issue, it's not being able to put it up in showers etc, like we posted above, you have to plan your drive and have it down whenyou leave , or up, none of this down at the traffic lights sort of thing.
Here's the vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSudCNHIhn0
I agree it's a faff and yes traffic light shenanigans are probably not going to be a good idea but I still think you'd get it done in 30s. If you had a passenger - even less!
PorscheGT4 said:
30 seconds or a minutes, getting out the car is not an option in showers on a welsh B road.
My spyder is a sun only use 3rd car, but this year the weathers been showers, it's a pain in the arse.
Yes well mine will basically be used like yours if I got it, so not a problem!My spyder is a sun only use 3rd car, but this year the weathers been showers, it's a pain in the arse.
No ex S1 Elise owners about then? Bit of a first world problem the roof is very simple compared to other sports cars. Every truly brilliant car should have some kind of flaw. Adds to the character. The danger for all Cayman type cars is that they are too polished and lacking character.
mdianuk said:
Ahem, "Cayman R - owners/buyers/mods"
Exactly. I could post pics of the 1993 Turbo 3.6 I sold to a UK buyer, that's being renovated or the 7 hour enduro our team just did with 21 year old Honda Integras, but while it interests me I prefer to keep it on topic here, which is 'Cayman R owner/buyers/mods'. Don't want to read about Spyders, or endless drivel about the market for manual Rs, but I put up with the latter in the hope that ocassional gems will be posted that enhance my knowledge or ownership enjoyment. I have to say - this seems like a very small problem - if it's raining, leave the roof on. If it looks like it's going to rain, leave the roof on. If rain is forecast, leave the roof on. If it's bright and sunny, put the roof down. Simples!
If you happen to get caught in a shower, where it had been bright sunshine mere seconds previously - get the roof up ASAP, this should be a rare occurrence, if you follow the rules above but if you were unlucky, this might happen once a year and would be resolved in 20 to 30s, once you knew what you were doing. If on a Welsh / continental road leave the roof up, unless you have a doppler weather app on your iPhone and it's saying no chance of rain.
If you happen to get caught in a shower, where it had been bright sunshine mere seconds previously - get the roof up ASAP, this should be a rare occurrence, if you follow the rules above but if you were unlucky, this might happen once a year and would be resolved in 20 to 30s, once you knew what you were doing. If on a Welsh / continental road leave the roof up, unless you have a doppler weather app on your iPhone and it's saying no chance of rain.
So if anyone should wonder what it would be like to change the geo on their car. Today i got my 987.1 S back with RSS lower control arms and toe steer kit with locking plates to add to my pss9 and h and r arb. I have gone from stock geo to running 2 degree camber on rear, 1.5 degree on front and toe .03 front and .07 rear. Holy moly what a difference! i cant pretend to be able to explain the difference in terms of understeer/oversteer and all the technical jargon but i can say for sure the steering response and the degree to which the car wants to turn is transformed. Highly recommend having a drive in a car thats been properly set up, its night and day, definitely recommended.
fridaypassion said:
We aren't allowed to post on this thread if we don't have an R 
the geo has been done on mine will have to check settings but I think the outside of the tyres are scrubbing up.
I just like to make them feel better about themselves by posting something about MODS rather than stitching options, cosmetic addenda or of course how much there car has (or has not..) gone up in value the geo has been done on mine will have to check settings but I think the outside of the tyres are scrubbing up.PR36 said:
So if anyone should wonder what it would be like to change the geo on their car. Today i got my 987.1 S back with RSS lower control arms and toe steer kit with locking plates to add to my pss9 and h and r arb. I have gone from stock geo to running 2 degree camber on rear, 1.5 degree on front and toe .03 front and .07 rear. Holy moly what a difference! i cant pretend to be able to explain the difference in terms of understeer/oversteer and all the technical jargon but i can say for sure the steering response and the degree to which the car wants to turn is transformed. Highly recommend having a drive in a car thats been properly set up, its night and day, definitely recommended.
Sounds great, glad you're pleased with it. Out of interest, who did your geo?fridaypassion said:
No ex S1 Elise owners about then? Bit of a first world problem the roof is very simple compared to other sports cars. Every truly brilliant car should have some kind of flaw. Adds to the character. The danger for all Cayman type cars is that they are too polished and lacking character.
Adds to the character my arse! To be fair, I'm no great fan of open air motoring though I've had an Elise, a Caterham, a (yes really) TR3 and used motorbikes as DDs for 20 years. Personally I almost invariably ran with the roof on because it was a pain to put up/down. PR36 said:
So if anyone should wonder what it would be like to change the geo on their car. Today i got my 987.1 S back with RSS lower control arms and toe steer kit with locking plates to add to my pss9 and h and r arb. I have gone from stock geo to running 2 degree camber on rear, 1.5 degree on front and toe .03 front and .07 rear. Holy moly what a difference! i cant pretend to be able to explain the difference in terms of understeer/oversteer and all the technical jargon but i can say for sure the steering response and the degree to which the car wants to turn is transformed. Highly recommend having a drive in a car thats been properly set up, its night and day, definitely recommended.
odd set up with 2k worth of RSS parts and fitment.I would start at -1.8 front and rear camber and no front toe.
you could have got your set up with £25 worth of parts for front track and -1.5 !
OEM set up is dire, hence you feel it's great, but you can do better than what you have imo still.
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