Cayman R - owners/buyers/mods
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anonymous said:
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I got the same bemusement from the service manager when I changed the oil after 1,000miles on mine too. He seemed even more bemused that I wanted a stamp in the book saying it was done, but my sales guy insisted and got it sorted. Took me two months to run up that first 1,000miles, and the car has done less than 6,000 more in the subsequent four years :-)
This car has been for sale for nearly a year......was £45k at Redline and recently unsold at another Yorkshire dealer at £39k......
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
I would have gone to look at it if it had PCM & PSE................
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
I would have gone to look at it if it had PCM & PSE................
John McM said:
The link is a road video? How was it on track?
I put the GoPro on the passenger window and it picked up a hum through the base so the track shots are largely unwatchable (To my standard anyway).
To date I've been tracking a 964 C4 which has had the under steer dialled out. It is heavy in steering but very predictable. The R is very agile by comparison, which means a new driving style is needed. Leave any lock wound in on tight corners and it will want to come around quickly. On sweepers I had to set a steering angle and stick to it, otherwise it was difficult to work out which end was going to go first. I love it. This is another step forward. Give it the right inputs and it feels like it will reward far more than the C4 and the best bit is that this is all Porsche designed. Actually I lie about the best bit, because hands down the PDK is the dogs b
ks. Towards the end of the day I set it in Sports Plus and went for it. Things I would like: track pads and tyres would be a real plus, and some track insurance as well .
To date I've been tracking a 964 C4 which has had the under steer dialled out. It is heavy in steering but very predictable. The R is very agile by comparison, which means a new driving style is needed. Leave any lock wound in on tight corners and it will want to come around quickly. On sweepers I had to set a steering angle and stick to it, otherwise it was difficult to work out which end was going to go first. I love it. This is another step forward. Give it the right inputs and it feels like it will reward far more than the C4 and the best bit is that this is all Porsche designed. Actually I lie about the best bit, because hands down the PDK is the dogs b
ks. Towards the end of the day I set it in Sports Plus and went for it. Things I would like: track pads and tyres would be a real plus, and some track insurance as well .I did have my AIM Solo in the car. The two traces are my fastest ever in my C4 at the track and my fastest on the day in my R. The green trace is the R. The C4 had track tyres and pads, whereas the R has PS2 and Textar pads. You can see where I'm still working on some of the corners. I'd say that there are another 3 seconds to find here. 
Edited by John McM on Tuesday 14th July 20:02
fridaypassion said:
Looks to corner nice and flat!
It sure does, no body roll to speak of at all. The buckets held me in well, no need for a harness. It could do with some more agressive track pads and a set of Cup2 tyres. However, out of the box these are great track day cars, which is what I wanted.BTW: The speedo reads 7km/hr optimistic all the way up to 200km/hr. My fastest Vmax was 202km/hr on the AIM. The 997.2 GT3s hit 220km/hr at the same spot. Even with a better launch at the sweeper before the main straight I'm not going anywhere near matching that.
Edited by John McM on Tuesday 14th July 22:00
John McM said:
I did have my AIM Solo in the car. The two traces are my fastest ever in my C4 at the track and my fastest on the day in my R. The green trace is the R. The C4 had track tyres and pads, whereas the R has PS2 and Textar pads. You can see where I'm still working on some of the corners. I'd say that there are another 3 seconds to find here.
John how modified is the 964 out of interest, there doesn't look that much difference in performance considering one car is 20 years older than the other! Edited by John McM on Tuesday 14th July 20:02
PR36 said:
John how modified is the 964 out of interest, there doesn't look that much difference in performance considering one car is 20 years older than the other!
In the last two years I have done over 1,000 laps of that track. The 964 trace is my fastest ever over that period. It has a stock engine, RUF Bilsteins, H&R reds, strut brace, PFC08 pads, I stripped all the weight I could out of it, gave it an agressive Geo and shod it with Hankook Z221 tyres that stick to the track like nothing else. The R on the other hand is starting its track journey and took 0.5 seconds off my best ever in the 964. It has Textar pads, Michelin N rated PS2 and the maximum camber on the stock equipment. I also had about 30kg of tools in the frunk.
Fast track driving, to me, is about flow. Any muppet can hammer the throttle in a straight line, it's the corners that give the time. In that regard I'm having to learn my craft again as the R won't just set into a corner like the C4 does. It has all 330hp in the rear tyres and wants to dance, whereas the C4 has half that in the rears, plus the front tyres pulling. As I wrote, there's another 3 seconds to come yet, which will come from braking later and carrying more speed through corners.
Edited by John McM on Wednesday 15th July 00:02
Sarnie said:
This car has been for sale for nearly a year......was £45k at Redline and recently unsold at another Yorkshire dealer at £39k......
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
I would have gone to look at it if it had PCM & PSE................
Jeez, you have to keep a good eye out for these cars on the market don't you. I saw that ad sunday night and thought it looked a beauty, not realising its the same one been around for months and months at Redline. Wasn't that a demo car or suchlike too? Seem to remember someone saying that about the redline car.http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
I would have gone to look at it if it had PCM & PSE................
Can you remind me what PCM & PSE is? Wonder why they cant sell it. I have noticed a fair few cant sell lately, all PDK, in various colours.
we should start a 'Lemon watch' of cars to avoid that are advertised! might prevent someone new to searching an R buying a car that's sat around for months at a variety of dealers. I have seen a Cayman sport turn up at 4 different dealers since before xmas and still not sold, despite the price of it going up! That's around 8months the car has just sat, cant do It much good. Think the redline R car has been around equally as long.
PorscheGT4 said:
nail ,the, head, hit, you, the, on
arrange these words :-)
We won't mention the manual cars on PH that have been for sale for months too though right? That wouldn't help your argument though would did??arrange these words :-)
Don't worry, I know your going to tell me they are all silver, blue or red cars with chairs and the wrong wheels
Sarnie said:
We won't mention the manual cars on PH that have been for sale for months too though right? That wouldn't help your argument though would did??
Don't worry, I know your going to tell me they are all silver, blue or red cars with chairs and the wrong wheels
Which ones ? And yes it will have to have buckets and Spyder wheels that's a given.Don't worry, I know your going to tell me they are all silver, blue or red cars with chairs and the wrong wheels
Sarnie said:
PorscheGT4 said:
nail ,the, head, hit, you, the, on
arrange these words :-)
We won't mention the manual cars on PH that have been for sale for months too though right? That wouldn't help your argument though would did??arrange these words :-)
Don't worry, I know your going to tell me they are all silver, blue or red cars with chairs and the wrong wheels
The anti PDK this is utter bks I never wanted a manual. The bigger issue is that dealers have them sat because they are too expensive! I'm pretty happy to have spotted the bubble in prices. The R is a cracking car for sub 40k but its not a 45k proposition.
Awaits porschegt4s head exploding/ boring post.
ks I never wanted a manual. The bigger issue is that dealers have them sat because they are too expensive! I'm pretty happy to have spotted the bubble in prices. The R is a cracking car for sub 40k but its not a 45k proposition. Awaits porschegt4s head exploding/ boring post.
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