Future Values of 987 Spyder

Future Values of 987 Spyder

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boxsey

3,574 posts

209 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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johnnyhar said:
It's on Autotrader as well as ebay, but not pistonheads. A mate of mine who has a garage is selling it for me.
Your mate's non-specialist garage (presumably) is likely to put people off. As mentioned by others it's a niche car so those wanting one will prefer to buy from an official Porsche dealer, a specialist (see Tynski's suggestions above) who provide their own warranty or privately (providing that the car comes with a Porsche warranty).

g7jhp

6,958 posts

237 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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Porsche911R said:
70k miles is tough ask on any newer car, most stuff is shot at 70k miles and tired and most high miles cars have had NOTHING spent !

I don't buy or run cars over 30k miles and I know a few people like minded on that.
Every thing has a price though, so if it's not sold after 3 months it's too expensive it's that simple.

People will say a high miles car feels ok but go drive a brand new one back to back. upkeep is key and money just don't get spent I find.
AT 70k miles I would be wanting a 10k spend list ;-) and as that will never happen it's best to just look at a lower miles one at £40k it will work out cheaper for the buyer, because as the cars are stable, you buy at £40k you can sell at £40k if you keep the miles ok.
Major over exaggeration as usual Demon!

You cars will turn into pumpkins as they hit 30k miles.

As long as they're maintained, you often get less problems with higher mileage cars which are used, than with garage queens.

Back to the OP who has a 68k mile Spyder (which isn't going to become a 30k mile Spyder witholut some fowl play), best get it on PH's and speak to some of the reputable Prosche indies for their advice on selling it.


johnnyhar

25 posts

157 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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g7jhp said:
Major over exaggeration as usual Demon!

You cars will turn into pumpkins as they hit 30k miles.

As long as they're maintained, you often get less problems with higher mileage cars which are used, than with garage queens.

Back to the OP who has a 68k mile Spyder (which isn't going to become a 30k mile Spyder witholut some fowl play), best get it on PH's and speak to some of the reputable Prosche indies for their advice on selling it.
Yep, thanks for the advice. Will do smile

KMF

525 posts

147 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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what may be an idea is to look towards trading, think what will your next toy be and find an independent that both appreciates the Spyder and has what you are looking for.
i managed to find a Porsche indi who just happened to have an Atom and that was just what i was looking for

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

264 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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anonymous said:
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you never go on track and don't own a 987.2 car which I advised to bleed as people do seem to over heat this set up !!! And many people do go on and on about a soft pedal.

I give advice based on experience gained.
Many cars which are tracked inc EVERY single race car gets a fluid bleed, imo it's good practice and easy to do, it takes 1/2 and hour and cost you a tenner why would you NOT do it on a track used car, where in question the poster was having issues with a pedal going to the floor and does loads of track days ?
The only reason a pedal gets to the floor is heat ! if it's got that hot so has the fluid, also the 987.2 car is well know for brakes issues and a odd pedal,
I also noted the inner bleed points also had a few bubbles when I did a re-bleed and my pedal was nice after.

As normal you offer nothing as you don't go on track and don't own a 987.2 car.

Edited by Porsche911R on Thursday 29th September 09:09

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

264 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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g7jhp said:
Major over exaggeration as usual Demon!

You cars will turn into pumpkins as they hit 30k miles.

As long as they're maintained, you often get less problems with higher mileage cars which are used, than with garage queens.

Back to the OP who has a 68k mile Spyder (which isn't going to become a 30k mile Spyder witholut some fowl play), best get it on PH's and speak to some of the reputable Prosche indies for their advice on selling it.
I see the owner did not answer if the car had new shocks after 70k miles, I will take that as no it does not, and backs up my post quite well that people don't seem to spend the money on bits past their best, and a future owner will prob save money buying a more expensive low miles car over a car which has had no new parts in 70k miles !!!

as you stated "As long as they're maintained" I find most high miles cars do feel a bit naff, we laugh about the £15k refresh on a 15 year old car but it's real figures and I find when looking at high miles cars not much money has been spent on them !

70k mile 6 year old Spyder used over winter, I would want to see all new bushes, drop links, shocks, clutch, check the diff, caliper rebuild, def check steering rack and top mounts, Also AC condensers, exhaust, disks, rads etc etc

while cars do not turn into pumpkins ;-) I tend to not want to own them after 30k miles nor do a few people I know esp harder driven sports type cars.
that's just a personal thing I do to cut down costs keeping cars in tip top shape, getting top money back and expenses to a minimum.
Plus when my cars sell they are top notch, they seem to sell to the 1st person to view and normally are under 30k miles.


Cars def start to feel tired after 40k miles, shocks are past their best between 40 and 60k miles and every thing else is worn !
owners don't realise because it's a day to day degrade. but boy back to back with a new car is night and day.

I live on the road as an Eng and the amount of cars I see bouncing about due to well over worn shocks is quite high !!!

It's a bit like the post above, about tracking a car which over heats every thing to very high temps, but people cannot be arsed to do a quick rebleed for a tenner before a track day where you might see 140mph lap after lap!

I change my pads 1/2 worn, again I see posts and pictures on here with pads down to the metal !!! I also see and smell many track cars smoking into the pits !!


g7jhp

6,958 posts

237 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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Porsche911R said:
I see the owner did not answer if the car had new shocks after 70k miles, I will take that as no it does not, and backs up my post quite well that people don't seem to spend the money on bits past their best, and a future owner will prob save money buying a more expensive low miles car over a car which has had no new parts in 70k miles !!!

as you stated "As long as they're maintained" I find most high miles cars do feel a bit naff, we laugh about the £15k refresh on a 15 year old car but it's real figures and I find when looking at high miles cars not much money has been spent on them !

70k mile 6 year old Spyder used over winter, I would want to see all new bushes, drop links, shocks, clutch, check the diff, caliper rebuild, def check steering rack and top mounts, Also AC condensers, exhaust, disks, rads etc etc

while cars do not turn into pumpkins ;-) I tend to not want to own them after 30k miles nor do a few people I know esp harder driven sports type cars.
that's just a personal thing I do to cut down costs keeping cars in tip top shape, getting top money back and expenses to a minimum.
Plus when my cars sell they are top notch, they seem to sell to the 1st person to view and normally are under 30k miles.


Cars def start to feel tired after 40k miles, shocks are past their best between 40 and 60k miles and every thing else is worn !
owners don't realise because it's a day to day degrade. but boy back to back with a new car is night and day.

I live on the road as an Eng and the amount of cars I see bouncing about due to well over worn shocks is quite high !!!

It's a bit like the post above, about tracking a car which over heats every thing to very high temps, but people cannot be arsed to do a quick rebleed for a tenner before a track day where you might see 140mph lap after lap!

I change my pads 1/2 worn, again I see posts and pictures on here with pads down to the metal !!! I also see and smell many track cars smoking into the pits !!
The seller has a 987.2 Spyder with 68k miles, which the first 60k miles were mainly motorway (so less stressful that town and much less than trackdays).

Your sub 30k miles 987.2 Spyder has done X trackday miles.

A quick google suggests that 1 trackday mile = 10 road miles. If 5k of your miles are trackday then you're equal to 50k road miles + your road miles.

No wonder you're having to do expensive refreshes and your car is worthless at 30k miles! wink

I'll definitely steer clear of your cars when they come up for sale.


johnnyhar

25 posts

157 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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Porsche911R said:
I see the owner did not answer if the car had new shocks after 70k miles, I will take that as no it does not, and backs up my post quite well that people don't seem to spend the money on bits past their best, and a future owner will prob save money buying a more expensive low miles car over a car which has had no new parts in 70k miles !!!

as you stated "As long as they're maintained" I find most high miles cars do feel a bit naff, we laugh about the £15k refresh on a 15 year old car but it's real figures and I find when looking at high miles cars not much money has been spent on them !

70k mile 6 year old Spyder used over winter, I would want to see all new bushes, drop links, shocks, clutch, check the diff, caliper rebuild, def check steering rack and top mounts, Also AC condensers, exhaust, disks, rads etc etc

while cars do not turn into pumpkins ;-) I tend to not want to own them after 30k miles nor do a few people I know esp harder driven sports type cars.
that's just a personal thing I do to cut down costs keeping cars in tip top shape, getting top money back and expenses to a minimum.
Plus when my cars sell they are top notch, they seem to sell to the 1st person to view and normally are under 30k miles.


Cars def start to feel tired after 40k miles, shocks are past their best between 40 and 60k miles and every thing else is worn !
owners don't realise because it's a day to day degrade. but boy back to back with a new car is night and day.

I live on the road as an Eng and the amount of cars I see bouncing about due to well over worn shocks is quite high !!!

It's a bit like the post above, about tracking a car which over heats every thing to very high temps, but people cannot be arsed to do a quick rebleed for a tenner before a track day where you might see 140mph lap after lap!

I change my pads 1/2 worn, again I see posts and pictures on here with pads down to the metal !!! I also see and smell many track cars smoking into the pits !!
Regarding replacing parts, I take the advice of the mechanics who service my car, who know far more than I do. If they say a part needs replacing then it gets changed. Similarly, if I detect anything whilst driving then I will have it looked into. The shocks haven't been changed because as far as I'm aware there's nothing wrong with them. There's no point replacing perfectly good parts that are not near the end of their lifespan.

Patrick Bateman

12,143 posts

173 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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I'm all for a bit of preventative maintenance but why would you change brake pads that are only half worn?

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

264 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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g7jhp said:
Your sub 30k miles 987.2 Spyder has done X trackday miles.

A quick google suggests that 1 trackday mile = 10 road miles. If 5k of your miles are trackday then you're equal to 50k road miles + your road miles.

No wonder you're having to do expensive refreshes and your car is worthless at 30k miles! wink

I'll definitely steer clear of your cars when they come up for sale.
That's the point I never have to do expensive refreshes as I buy low miles top end cars, and non of mine are track hacks either.

I have done about 300 total track miles in the Spyder in 6 years !!! and I replace the pads 1/2 worn, plus I re-bleed the system every time because that's common sense ! I have not tracked the Spyder for 2 years now and in that year did about 70 track miles lol, but carry on ;-)

I think I did about 18odd track miles in my last R in 2.5 years and have done zero track miles in my new R, so no idea why you think my cars are track cars !
My GT4 again also only about 25 total track miles !!!

I am not really into tracking cars, I find road cars on track a bit st truth be told, I got that out my system in my early Elise and Exige days.

If you never want to buy one of my cars that's great, they will goto some one who appreciates well looked after low miles ones ;-)

Edited by Porsche911R on Friday 30th September 13:47

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

264 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Patrick Bateman said:
I'm all for a bit of preventative maintenance but why would you change brake pads that are only half worn?
heat kills disks and boils fluid, the pads are the only part between your very hot disk and your caliper, it's good to change 1/2 worn esp on PCCB cars.

but again this is what I mean about 95% of people NOT spending the money on their cars and wanting to get every last MM from disks/pads and tyres and run shocks till they fail !!

ooid

4,049 posts

99 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Porsche911R said:
70k mile 6 year old Spyder used over winter, I would want to see all new bushes, drop links, shocks, clutch, check the diff, caliper rebuild, def check steering rack and top mounts, Also AC condensers, exhaust, disks, rads etc etc
I thought most spyders do not have AC as standard? It was optional, at least a few I've looked at few years ago they did not have AC (Which is great imho). Great cars though


g7jhp

6,958 posts

237 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Porsche911R said:
Patrick Bateman said:
I'm all for a bit of preventative maintenance but why would you change brake pads that are only half worn?
heat kills disks and boils fluid, the pads are the only part between your very hot disk and your caliper, it's good to change 1/2 worn esp on PCCB cars.

but again this is what I mean about 95% of people NOT spending the money on their cars and wanting to get every last MM from disks/pads and tyres and run shocks till they fail !!
Perhaps most people aren't tracking their Spyder.

Certainly a reason to steer clear of tracked cars or pay a lower price for them.