Future Values of 987 Spyder
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I have a hard time sugercoating an engine with so many issues. Its crap, end of. Yes it does make a nice sound but most flat 6es do....
and no excessive tracking either, oil starvation can lunch it too. Sports car engine not suited for bends? hmmm...
You are in for a long year if you are trying to convince pistonheaders the M96 is a lovely misunderstood engine, we have plenty of people on here who had to remorgage their houses because the 4-wheeled family pet decided to pack in in sometime after breakfast one day, that engine is one of the biggest wallet rapists in PH history I suspect...
and no excessive tracking either, oil starvation can lunch it too. Sports car engine not suited for bends? hmmm...
You are in for a long year if you are trying to convince pistonheaders the M96 is a lovely misunderstood engine, we have plenty of people on here who had to remorgage their houses because the 4-wheeled family pet decided to pack in in sometime after breakfast one day, that engine is one of the biggest wallet rapists in PH history I suspect...
Edited by Axel987 on Friday 3rd April 23:28
the problem is the bearing will let go without warning,yes you can service/replace it but it can still let go after a small mileage/period.this just should not happen on a car of porsche status/price, when my little 1.25 zetec can be thrashed/abused not serviced and still go on on for high miles it has a weak spot the water pump which is also serviceable but it will not lunch the engine if it fails and you do get some kind of warning!
anonymous said:
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Which you do not have in the dfi!from the 2.7 to the turbo s there is consitentcy in reliability!If I was to recommend any m96/7 engine to anyone it would be a 2007my 2.7 it has the later ims and less prone to bore scoring and not to shabby in the power department
I am keeping an eye on the prices for Spyders in Germany as well as Switzerland and they are not budging. 
Rumours are that the 981 Spyder is more limited than the GT4 in EU because most allocations are going to the USA, just like with the 987 years ago. The price for the 981 is between 90 and 95000€ with a reasonable spec and I suspect this also helps keep the 987 prices up.
At the time of writing there are only two 987s listed for 69990€ (~51000 GBP).
Rumours are that the 981 Spyder is more limited than the GT4 in EU because most allocations are going to the USA, just like with the 987 years ago. The price for the 981 is between 90 and 95000€ with a reasonable spec and I suspect this also helps keep the 987 prices up.
At the time of writing there are only two 987s listed for 69990€ (~51000 GBP).
swimd said:
I am keeping an eye on the prices for Spyders in Germany as well as Switzerland and they are not budging.
Rumours are that the 981 Spyder is more limited than the GT4 in EU because most allocations are going to the USA, just like with the 987 years ago. The price for the 981 is between 90 and 95000€ with a reasonable spec and I suspect this also helps keep the 987 prices up.
At the time of writing there are only two 987s listed for 69990€ (~51000 GBP).
This is good news. It indicates that the 987 Spyder is capable of fetching £50k now for a good one. Rumours are that the 981 Spyder is more limited than the GT4 in EU because most allocations are going to the USA, just like with the 987 years ago. The price for the 981 is between 90 and 95000€ with a reasonable spec and I suspect this also helps keep the 987 prices up.
At the time of writing there are only two 987s listed for 69990€ (~51000 GBP).
2010spy said:
swimd said:
I am keeping an eye on the prices for Spyders in Germany as well as Switzerland and they are not budging.
Rumours are that the 981 Spyder is more limited than the GT4 in EU because most allocations are going to the USA, just like with the 987 years ago. The price for the 981 is between 90 and 95000€ with a reasonable spec and I suspect this also helps keep the 987 prices up.
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At the time of writing there are only two 987s listed for 69990€ (~51000 GBP).
This is good news. It indicates that the 987 Spyder is capable of fetching £50k now for a good one. Rumours are that the 981 Spyder is more limited than the GT4 in EU because most allocations are going to the USA, just like with the 987 years ago. The price for the 981 is between 90 and 95000€ with a reasonable spec and I suspect this also helps keep the 987 prices up.
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At the time of writing there are only two 987s listed for 69990€ (~51000 GBP).
If you're prepared to pay £50k for a 987 Spyder you'd be mad not to take a new 981 Spyder which will be quicker and more usable.
People should view these as cars with a 'low cost of ownership' rather than an investment.
hahaha : - )
nah im not getting my handbags out, cmoose is contradicting himself he has previously slated the M96 to no end suddenly its quite reliable?
the 2.5 and 2.7 might be the most reliable of the M96 and M97 engines, but that aint saying much!
A bit like being the worlds best r.apist!
Its alright though, the 986 is unappealing for about 30 different reasons, looks interior engine take your pick - so if Cmoose likes em all the better for it!
nah im not getting my handbags out, cmoose is contradicting himself he has previously slated the M96 to no end suddenly its quite reliable?
the 2.5 and 2.7 might be the most reliable of the M96 and M97 engines, but that aint saying much!
A bit like being the worlds best r.apist!
Its alright though, the 986 is unappealing for about 30 different reasons, looks interior engine take your pick - so if Cmoose likes em all the better for it!
g7jhp said:
No, a £50k asking price is speculation.
If you're prepared to pay £50k for a 987 Spyder you'd be mad not to take a new 981 Spyder which will be quicker and more usable.
People should view these as cars with a 'low cost of ownership' rather than an investment.
That assumes you can get a 981 Spyder?If you're prepared to pay £50k for a 987 Spyder you'd be mad not to take a new 981 Spyder which will be quicker and more usable.
People should view these as cars with a 'low cost of ownership' rather than an investment.
2010spy said:
That assumes you can get a 981 Spyder?
The 987 Spyder is more of a weekend car due to the roof, it appeals to a niche. I don't see that niche growing suddenly, if anything more 987 Spyders will hit the market as some current owners trade up to the new model. Therefore prices are unlikely to jump.Over a longer period they will be a classic, but I wouldn't get caught up in short term hype.
The 987 Spyder is a great car to own with a low cost of ownership.
2010spy said:
Thanks Phooey, but that doesn't really help the cause 
I am waiting for Mr Demon to come along and tell us they will be worth £1m and then I can print this out and give to the other half...
I am an expert at analysing future prices of Porsche Spyders and confidently predict they will be worth at least £1m within 3 years. In fact people are trading in their 918s to purchase now before the inevitable price rise.I am waiting for Mr Demon to come along and tell us they will be worth £1m and then I can print this out and give to the other half...
PRINT OUT AND SHOW TO SWMBO!!
g7jhp said:
No, a £50k asking price is speculation.
If you're prepared to pay £50k for a 987 Spyder you'd be mad not to take a new 981 Spyder which will be quicker and more usable.
People should view these as cars with a 'low cost of ownership' rather than an investment.
I would NOT sell mine for £60k and I know other in the same boat, the newer cars drive nothing like the last gen of cars.If you're prepared to pay £50k for a 987 Spyder you'd be mad not to take a new 981 Spyder which will be quicker and more usable.
People should view these as cars with a 'low cost of ownership' rather than an investment.
If you like the new one, you buy that, if you like the old one you buy that.
Would I pay 50k for a 987.2 Spyder, that's a good question, not sure but I would not sell it for £60k so it has a worth to me higher than it,s current market value.
At the end of the day not many of either , circa 100 manual 987.2 Spyders and 150 981 Spyders. Of which all sold out.
One will not affect the other in price depending what type of drive you want how ever faster the 981 is.
I see it now has a 7.48 ring time on non cup 2's
Which imo does not add up over the 7.40 gt4 time on cup 2, greater geo set up and down force ?
Can we take these 2 ring times as real ?
Trick sus, downforce, 245/295 tyres, more bhp and a geo with double the camber. Must be worth more than 2 seconds on the ring.
These Gt4 and Spyder times must be made up. And then we have a civic doing 7.50 with just 310bhp when the last 2 minutes of that track is pure bhp.
I cannot work it all out !
These Gt4 and Spyder times must be made up. And then we have a civic doing 7.50 with just 310bhp when the last 2 minutes of that track is pure bhp.
I cannot work it all out !
2010spy said:
Values are definitely on the rise...
good prices.2010 carrere white with white hoops and gauges,
CF buckets,
spyder wheels,
sports exhaust,
manual with short shift
sports chrono,
CDR 30
red and grey alcantara,
full Porsche service history, just had its 4 year done
i will pitch this car at a fair middle price of £242000
perhaps
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