Future Values of 987 Spyder
Discussion
PorscheGT4 said:
Trick sus, downforce, 245/295 tyres, more bhp and a geo with double the camber. Must be worth more than 2 seconds on the ring.
These Gt4 and Spyder times must be made up. And then we have a civic doing 7.50 with just 310bhp when the last 2 minutes of that track is pure bhp.
I cannot work it all out !
Until we get figures of various tracks on the likes of fastest laps or a EVO shoot out test will we know,but I still don't think there will be much in the times the gt4 is only a 2/10 th second quicker to 100mphThese Gt4 and Spyder times must be made up. And then we have a civic doing 7.50 with just 310bhp when the last 2 minutes of that track is pure bhp.
I cannot work it all out !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3TQK4VNnmE
The Spyder and Cayman R on cup 2s is probably an honest 7:45-7.50 car on the ring, the CSL 10-11 years ago was a 7:50 car on semislicks and the Spyder&R is nigh-on 100 kiloes lighter than the CSL with a vastly superior chassis.
It makes me wonder where the progress is aside from the PDK which hauls inn a 5-6 seconds over a lap..
The Spyder and Cayman R on cup 2s is probably an honest 7:45-7.50 car on the ring, the CSL 10-11 years ago was a 7:50 car on semislicks and the Spyder&R is nigh-on 100 kiloes lighter than the CSL with a vastly superior chassis.
It makes me wonder where the progress is aside from the PDK which hauls inn a 5-6 seconds over a lap..
I don't get the point of this thread. By man maths logic, the 987 spyder makes obvious sense as it will lose value less rapidly than its peers. It might even make a bit, but that will be eaten up by insurance and maintenance costs. Factor in buy/sell spread and it is unlikely to turn a material profit for many years to come. As a huge generalisation, most classics with good investment potential take a good 20 years to get going financially (excluding the top end super exotics of which this is definitely not one).
i bought my Spyder christmas 2013 for £40500 with 5500 on the clock, if i can keep until summer 2017 and get £45000 with just under 20000 on the clock i will be laughing all the way to the bank and can not see me not geting that.
for me that is a win, you have to forget running costs as that is the cost of enjoyment of your toy
for me that is a win, you have to forget running costs as that is the cost of enjoyment of your toy
itsybitsy said:
Until we get figures of various tracks on the likes of fastest laps or a EVO shoot out test will we know,but I still don't think there will be much in the times the gt4 is only a 2/10 th second quicker to 100mph
The motoring press have been saying for years that the Ring times are sus, with manufacturers changing the cars from their published roadgoing spec to achieve the times they do. Whether Porsche are doing the same thing I don't know - but I'd be pretty sure you'll never see a time for the 981 GT4 as low as that for the 991GT3 and for reasons only known to Porsche they seem keen to "position" the Boxster under the Cayman. I can see no logic whatsoever in giving the Boxster 10bhp less than the Cayman.I am easily in profit on mine. Bought for £33000 in Jan 13 with 3200 miles on clock, have now done 12000 miles. Car has spyder wheels, buckets, chrono, short shift, pse, no air, radio and cup holders. Have spent just over £3000 in two years including major service and extending warranty. I reckon I sit on about £10,000 profit if I sell soon.
KMF said:
i bought my Spyder christmas 2013 for £40500 with 5500 on the clock, if i can keep until summer 2017 and get £45000 with just under 20000 on the clock i will be laughing all the way to the bank and can not see me not geting that.
for me that is a win, you have to forget running costs as that is the cost of enjoyment of your toy
You don't just forget running costs as some cars cost vastly more than others across a 3-5 year period.for me that is a win, you have to forget running costs as that is the cost of enjoyment of your toy
As I said before, great for enthusiasts who buy a car to enjoy and it's a bonus if you see any upside as it offsets running costs giving you a 'low cost of ownership' - certainly beats loosing £3-5k depreciation per year on a modern hatch/saloon.
g7jhp said:
No, a £50k asking price is speculation.
People should view these as cars with a 'low cost of ownership' rather than an investment.
I agree with that. I don't think the Boxster is a car serious collectors or investors would be interested in. The Spyder will always have a greater value than a regular Boxster, but i don't think it has enough about it to become an 'investment' car. People should view these as cars with a 'low cost of ownership' rather than an investment.
The 987 Spyder was a classic from the day it was launched. Stunning.PorscheGT4 said:
Depends what you call investment, you sold yours for £33k and that is a £50k car today.
That's quite a return for 2 years investment.
But it's not a 50k car. That's quite a return for 2 years investment.
I bet trade bids would still be in the thirties - now 6or7 owner, ex-PEC car with more miles on it. I sold a convertible at virtually trade money in the middle of Winter - I was always going to be 'giving it away. I agree it's worth more today than i sold it for.. but my CSL has probably seen a greater increase in value.
So You agree it's gone up, does that make it an investment car what ever one of those is.
Cars go down, Spyder has been going up for 3 years.
I am not really into investment cars it stops you using them as cars and only look at them as investments.
I just like free motoring rather than trying to do man maths with a 20k loss.
Cars go down, Spyder has been going up for 3 years.
I am not really into investment cars it stops you using them as cars and only look at them as investments.
I just like free motoring rather than trying to do man maths with a 20k loss.
PorscheGT4 said:
So You agree it's gone up, does that make it an investment car what ever one of those is.
Cars go down, Spyder has been going up for 3 years.
When i sold mine the car market was on it's arse (997 RS's were 65-75k!). Most dealers didn't even want to bid on my Spyder. Even non-special boring stuff has seen small increases. I would say the Spyder went through a 'correction rather than an investment.Cars go down, Spyder has been going up for 3 years.
Anyway, thought we are supposed to talking about "Future" values than past ;-)
I see the spyder topping out this year at £50-55k for a good example and remaining that way for some time!i think the new spyder well specd will drop to around £60-65k next year and remain there for some time!i cannot see the gt4 hitting a £100k maybe £75-80k.the 981 spyder will keep the gt4 prices honest!it might have trick suspension over a spyder but no Motorsport engine!
The ball park will change with the arrival of new models and there power hikes and Opening the door for Pdk for gt4/spyder .
The new 991.2 will have 400hp and 981.2s 370-380hp and be as quick as gt4/ spyder as the game moves on
The ball park will change with the arrival of new models and there power hikes and Opening the door for Pdk for gt4/spyder .
The new 991.2 will have 400hp and 981.2s 370-380hp and be as quick as gt4/ spyder as the game moves on
I am not being big headed in any way but I would say my car is of a top spec/value Ie one owner,low miles late build ( rare 2012MY last out the factory) also late registered (61plate)has all vital bits etc.if I was to decide to sell in next few weeks the price I would get would be a bench mark for other spyders as it would be the one with the highest priced cars to date. But I certainly would not move it for less than high 40s even low 50s so may be a starting price of £52k and see what happens although I would be surprised if I got any interest at that price level but then who knows.
But I am still unsure about changing its never been so hard to let go of a car and what a car!
But I am still unsure about changing its never been so hard to let go of a car and what a car!
itsybitsy said:
I am not being big headed in any way but I would say my car is of a top spec/value Ie one owner,low miles late build ( rare 2012MY last out the factory) also late registered (61plate)has all vital bits etc.if I was to decide to sell in next few weeks the price I would get would be a bench mark for other spyders as it would be the one with the highest priced cars to date. But I certainly would not move it for less than high 40s even low 50s so may be a starting price of £52k and see what happens although I would be surprised if I got any interest at that price level but then who knows.
But I am still unsure about changing its never been so hard to let go of a car and what a car!
What is the top spec of your car?But I am still unsure about changing its never been so hard to let go of a car and what a car!
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