Goldilocks Spyder
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No sports chrono though! The sport button makes a massive difference when you fancy a spirited drive, pretty much like a cable throttle in terms of responsiveness.
The radio although not a harmon kardon or Bose isn't that bad. Just have to keep the loudness mode off. When presetting a radio station however, the confirmation beep is so loud it goes straight through you!
The radio although not a harmon kardon or Bose isn't that bad. Just have to keep the loudness mode off. When presetting a radio station however, the confirmation beep is so loud it goes straight through you!
jayxx83 said:
No sports chrono though! The sport button makes a massive difference when you fancy a spirited drive, pretty much like a cable throttle in terms of responsiveness.
The radio although not a harmon kardon or Bose isn't that bad. Just have to keep the loudness mode off. When presetting a radio station however, the confirmation beep is so loud it goes straight through you!
£600 to retrofit if you must have it. Only a small improvement to throttle response and don't believe you can't have a spirited drive without it. The radio although not a harmon kardon or Bose isn't that bad. Just have to keep the loudness mode off. When presetting a radio station however, the confirmation beep is so loud it goes straight through you!
av185 said:
And think of the weight of all that cow hide!!
Not sure if I would spec ceramics though at c 10 percent of the cars new cost.
Question is.......would the car be more attractive at c £44k with steels and no leather.
no, the PCCB and leather are the best bits ;-) the 4 pots are pretty sNot sure if I would spec ceramics though at c 10 percent of the cars new cost.
Question is.......would the car be more attractive at c £44k with steels and no leather.
t on the steels hence we see the GT4 and even the 981 SPyder get better brakes.the 6 pots on the PCCB are amazing, and if you want to fit steel disks its easy as you have the yellow 6 pot calipers, PCCB is a massive selling point even for people who don't want to run ceramic disks.
the leather just lifts the car from Lotus £30k spec to a more upmarket feel, any Porsche sans leather is quite plastic and not nice at all imo.
juansolo said:
Absolutely, the single only thing I'd do to that if it was mine is sort the rear badge to this:
Agree this does look much better and cuts down on Porsche's excess name badging. Also removes weight! 
Surprised nobody has removed their badges and replaced them with stickers!
Dr S said:
g7jhp said:
Should have ticked the no cost option box for stereo IMO.
A little expensive price wise considering you could have a brand new 981 Spyder for £10k more!
I love it without the stereo. Proper lightweight focus - incl PCCBs. What is not to like (but for the price maybe)?A little expensive price wise considering you could have a brand new 981 Spyder for £10k more!
Apples and pears......cannot compare the Syder and 991 GT3......clearly totally different cars in totally different price categories.
15 cars is c only 7 percent of UK stock and only a handful are the 'right' spec and mileage.
991 GT3 is cheap relative to its proven nearest rival.....the Speciale, at over twice the list price new.
15 cars is c only 7 percent of UK stock and only a handful are the 'right' spec and mileage.
991 GT3 is cheap relative to its proven nearest rival.....the Speciale, at over twice the list price new.
PorscheGT4 said:
GT3 at £160k can never been see as good value Imo.
No surprise there then lol.I agree the 3.8 RS is too expensive. But the 991 is on a different level and cheap compared to the twice as dear Speciale (new) and projected £230 to £250 k likely on the 991 RS.
Nothing else comes close.
I have had the good fortune to drive this car around Silverstone and can report it is a fantastic drive, a really focused sports car. Wonderful poise and balance, plenty of performance and lovely soundtrack.
It's a low numbers modern classic so relative to price of something else the ticks those boxes (esp a Porsche) I think they are worth the money IMO.
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It's a low numbers modern classic so relative to price of something else the ticks those boxes (esp a Porsche) I think they are worth the money IMO.
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av185 said:
No surprise there then lol.
I agree the 3.8 RS is too expensive. But the 991 is on a different level and cheap compared to the twice as dear Speciale (new) and projected £230 to £250 k likely on the 991 RS.
Nothing else comes close.
A speciale is on another level again IMO, but a £135k 458 would be most people choice in the 2nd hand market vs a 991 GT3. At £160k. I agree the 3.8 RS is too expensive. But the 991 is on a different level and cheap compared to the twice as dear Speciale (new) and projected £230 to £250 k likely on the 991 RS.
Nothing else comes close.
A Speciale is more the car to go head to head vs a 991 RS. And I would still take the Ferrari.
Or buy a GT4 for £70k and put £90k off your mortgage. Or get a 997.2 turbo S with the £90k and still have change !
People are a bet screwed in the head to think some of these values are great value !
I don't see any more worth than £120k for a 991 GT3 but that's only imo.
PorscheGT4 said:
A speciale is on another level again IMO, but a £135k 458 would be most people choice in the 2nd hand market vs a 991 GT3. At £160k.
A Speciale is more the car to go head to head vs a 991 RS. And I would still take the Ferrari.
Or buy a GT4 for £70k and put £90k off your mortgage. Or get a 997.2 turbo S with the £90k and still have change !
People are a bet screwed in the head to think some of these values are great value !
I don't see any more worth than £120k for a 991 GT3 but that's only imo.
I agree, but what's a mortgage?A Speciale is more the car to go head to head vs a 991 RS. And I would still take the Ferrari.
Or buy a GT4 for £70k and put £90k off your mortgage. Or get a 997.2 turbo S with the £90k and still have change !
People are a bet screwed in the head to think some of these values are great value !
I don't see any more worth than £120k for a 991 GT3 but that's only imo.
PorscheGT4 said:
A speciale is on another level again IMO, but a £135k 458 would be most people choice in the 2nd hand market vs a 991 GT3. At £160k.
A Speciale is more the car to go head to head vs a 991 RS. And I would still take the Ferrari.
Or buy a GT4 for £70k and put £90k off your mortgage. Or get a 997.2 turbo S with the £90k and still have change !
People are a bet screwed in the head to think some of these values are great value !
I don't see any more worth than £120k for a 991 GT3 but that's only imo.
Most people? A Speciale is more the car to go head to head vs a 991 RS. And I would still take the Ferrari.
Or buy a GT4 for £70k and put £90k off your mortgage. Or get a 997.2 turbo S with the £90k and still have change !
People are a bet screwed in the head to think some of these values are great value !
I don't see any more worth than £120k for a 991 GT3 but that's only imo.
i am sorry to offend any one but in the real world on the road at under £70k the spyder 987 and 981 the 987CR the 981gt4 the 997.2 gts just look such good value compared to those cars and not just porsche that cost twice/three times as much!then some think a low volume less built than a 991 gt3 that also does not have a race engine that a 987spyder at a mear £50k is expensive!
PorscheGT4 said:
av185 said:
No surprise there then lol.
I agree the 3.8 RS is too expensive. But the 991 is on a different level and cheap compared to the twice as dear Speciale (new) and projected £230 to £250 k likely on the 991 RS.
Nothing else comes close.
A speciale is on another level again IMO, but a £135k 458 would be most people choice in the 2nd hand market vs a 991 GT3. At £160k. I agree the 3.8 RS is too expensive. But the 991 is on a different level and cheap compared to the twice as dear Speciale (new) and projected £230 to £250 k likely on the 991 RS.
Nothing else comes close.
A Speciale is more the car to go head to head vs a 991 RS. And I would still take the Ferrari.
Or buy a GT4 for £70k and put £90k off your mortgage. Or get a 997.2 turbo S with the £90k and still have change !
People are a bet screwed in the head to think some of these values are great value !
I don't see any more worth than £120k for a 991 GT3 but that's only imo.
If you read all the 'quality' tests between the GT3 and Speciale, most conclude they were very evenly matched....mind you, the GT3 has always tended to bat well above its weight as you know full well. Quite remarkable for a car costing half as much to be pitched against the mighty F in the first place. Be interesting to see what the RS can do to the F.....could well be a forgone conclusion......
The GT4 and Turbo S are great cars but apples and pears to the GT3.
If you think a 991 GT3 sits at £120k you would be outbid by £25k immediately......and that's by the trade!!!!
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