Is the 2.5 Boxster too risky and too slow a purchase?

Is the 2.5 Boxster too risky and too slow a purchase?

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JB!

5,254 posts

180 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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Bundling onto this thread...

Just how much of a risk is the 3.4 Cayman over the 2.7?

Also anyone on here in or near MK have a Cayman I can go out in? Just noticed they are just on the edge of my price range..

JohnnyD1999

36 posts

112 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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The July edition of GT Porsche has a feature regarding "£5k Boxsters" in the article it is said the they would choose a 2.7 over a 2.5 "any day" as long as the conditions were comparable but they don't really explain why other than mentioning that revised gear ratio's and slightly more power make a noticeable difference. Are any previous owners or people more in the know be able to explain this more?

Patrick Bateman

12,187 posts

174 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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What do they both top out at in 2nd and 3rd?


Patrick Bateman

12,187 posts

174 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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And you had one for years?? For shame.

JB!

5,254 posts

180 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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anonymous said:
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I saw it, great ad but it looks like its missing the deeper seats? Also not overly keen on the colour combo!

Just window shopping at the mo, but they tick alot of boxes, ideally need to find a local owner and get a bit of wheel time!

Patrick Bateman

12,187 posts

174 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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anonymous said:
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That sounds about ideal then.

snotrag

14,464 posts

211 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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Reading with interest...

working away last week I spotted the edition of Purely Porsche mag with the headline "The £5k Boxster - can it be done" and immediately bought it.

I love my turbo MX-5, its light, fast, reliable, fun, feels 'old' in a good way. Its wild to drive, it spins the wheels up, moves about underneath you, its flipping brilliant. But I have always wanted a 6 cylinder engine. A proper sports car noise.

I have been seriously considering a 2.8 Z3, I like everything about it other than the worry that once over the retro looks and nice noise, it might actually be a bit, er, st to drive.

A Z4 basically feels like a 3 series, and as such I'm not at all interested. Far too modern and dull.

S2000 I love it in every way EXCEPT I've done the revvy 4 cylinder thing to death.

I want something I can work on at home. That I can modify and upgrade. Make it a bit noisier and livelier. That feels light(ish). I think the 2.5 Boxster up there, the only thing that puts me off is it being too competent. A modern Boxster is not far off supercar performance from not long ago, and everything I hate about modern cars - far too fast, too grippy, too electronic. I dont know how different a 15+ year old one will be.

I also worry that one trackday in a Boxster would probably cost me what I've spent in about ten years maintaining and putting tyres on MX5s.

Am I right? Ort am I missing a Gem of a car for £5k?


I keep day dreaming about a Guards Red 2.5, some lightweight wheels and decent tyres, some cheap bucket seats and a racing wheel, and a sports exhaust. Proper poverty RS style.

LukeBird

17,170 posts

209 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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Very interesting thread.
I've recently bought a 2003 S, come from a Mk2.5 MX-5 (with a short stint in an A5 3.2 Coupe, for commuting... Which is for sale! wink ) and absolutely love it.
I bought a car with upgraded IMS, to (hopefully!) remove that particular nagging doubt in my mind. Not remotely concerned about RMS and I don't think anyone who is actually interested in buying one should be; if it concerns you that much, I think you maybe terrified by other things.

Interesting views RE 2.5 vs 2.7 & 3.2 and reliability. I'll be interested to see how mine does in the long term, I bought it with 57k on it and am now at 61k in 2.5 months.

GreenArrow

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3,597 posts

117 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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Boxster 2.5 isn't too fast...0-60 in 6.6 seconds and 0-100 in about 18, top speed about 140. A modern Fiesta ST offers similar performance from 180 BHP. That GT Porsche article interested me too. They sort of said "go for it"....and I think they may be right, but there is no smoke without fire and I guess they are cheap for a reason. Lotus Elise Mk1s are almost double the money, so I guess the 2.5 Boxster has an iffy reputation for giving trouble, hence people like me starting a thread like this asking the question "are they too risky..!"

LukeBird

17,170 posts

209 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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GreenArrow said:
but there is no smoke without fire and I guess they are cheap for a reason. Lotus Elise Mk1s are almost double the money, so I guess the 2.5 Boxster has an iffy reputation for giving trouble, hence people like me starting a thread like this asking the question "are they too risky..!"
Personally I suspect that because they're reasonably common for a prestige sports car, along with higher running costs means it is off-putting to many people. Running costs are very reasonable compared to any modernish premium brand car (I think servicing works out £20 more for a minor and £35 more for a major compared to my A5, prices both from main dealers), but parts cost can be scary (as it can for any car).
Those things are enough to put off the majority, but I am happy to trade off running costs against much lower depreciation.

JB!

5,254 posts

180 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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anonymous said:
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I'm a big lad, so the sports seats are almost a must-have, or it has to be cheap enough to justify buying a pair separate.

Good advert though.

GreenArrow

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3,597 posts

117 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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anonymous said:
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True and the image is a big factor. I think there seems to be a common conception that 2.5s are grossly under-powered and slow which perhaps puts many people off. I remember reading an article a year or two back, again in GT Porsche magazine, where they compared a 2.5 with the then new 981 2.7 Boxster and in terms of performance said there was very little in it at UK road speeds, due to the shorter gearing in the older car...

Your old 2.5 looks lovely btw, a very lovely thing. I do miss the simple unadorned styling of the older Porsches.....

Malevik22

24 posts

149 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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GreenArrow said:
True and the image is a big factor. I think there seems to be a common conception that 2.5s are grossly under-powered and slow which perhaps puts many people off. I remember reading an article a year or two back, again in GT Porsche magazine, where they compared a 2.5 with the then new 981 2.7 Boxster and in terms of performance said there was very little in it at UK road speeds, due to the shorter gearing in the older car...

Your old 2.5 looks lovely btw, a very lovely thing. I do miss the simple unadorned styling of the older Porsches.....
Green Arrow
check the reg number - that is CMoose's old car in the GT Porsche article. That article and CMoose's championing of the purity of the back to basics 2.5 on here has made me seriously re-think my 968 CS ownership. It tends to sit around mostly unused as a result of fear of too putting to many miles on it ( shameful I know) and it being a bit dull on the ear ( although a great drive otherwise).

Can I justify a garage queen and a 2.5 to really use and enjoy? ... Time to get the man maths books out.

M22



Edited by Malevik22 on Wednesday 1st July 21:17

Mario149

7,758 posts

178 months

Saturday 4th July 2015
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Looks like the gear knob and rev limit were common parts with the 993 biggrin

ETA: max torque at 5k rpm, so quite peaky like an NVR 993 too smile

Edited by Mario149 on Saturday 4th July 08:11

GreenArrow

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3,597 posts

117 months

Saturday 4th July 2015
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http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...

Saw this one, 190,000 miles! 3.2S Wow, they really do rack up the miles.

Plenty about right now and cant see 2.5s getting any cheaper. Perhaps early next year might be a good time to buy, they usually say buy convertible cars in winter...

edh

3,498 posts

269 months

Saturday 4th July 2015
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anonymous said:
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Looks nice for £5k - of course all the usual boxster issues need checking out but I like the silver/red

vwcaddy

33 posts

128 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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Perfect thread for me,
l have been looking for ages for a sunny day fun car,
Was aiming for a 996 but £10K was offering nothing but high mileage ( soon to be expensive problem cars)
Then started looking at the 986 - 3.2S - £6K and there are some nice models out there,

This will be a total fun day car, l fancy doing track days,
Really fancy the auto rather than the manual

Would really like to hear cmoose's opinion of my thinking,

ASAP please l am off to view a 986 today when l finish night shift.

vwcaddy

33 posts

128 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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Thanks,
Leaving the Auto to one side, what about the choice of engine and any other opinions?

Appreciate your views.

vwcaddy

33 posts

128 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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whats the downside to auto's other than driving the car harder through a manual box?

edc

9,235 posts

251 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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3.2 is a good engine. I've had it in prefacelift 2000 guise and now in it's most powerful iteration in a 2004 550 Anniversary. The former supposedly has the dual row IMS bearing but the latter has the single row type. Both mod quite well for modest gains.