Pads and discs, cost?

[Kermitgreenmeanmachine]

Hi
Had my 08 BoxsterS serviced at an OPC so far. Needs new pads and discs all around. OPC has quoted me about 900 each end. Independent Porsche place about 500 each end. Any advice? The mechanic I use for my runaround says he can fit Brembo discs and pads all in for 600 front and back. Anybody got a good deal from an OPC? Will probably keep the car for 18 months more.
Cheers

[LordHaveMurci]

If OPC say they need replacing, they almost certainly don't.

£450-500 is what I've always paid at Porsche specialists.

[Kermitgreenmeanmachine]

Believe me they need replacing. I have seen the with the car on a ramp during MOT, and not at the OPC who havent yet seen the car.

[Ian_UK1]

Really easy to do yourself. Parts here:

http://www.design911.co.uk/fu/pt66_911_-cma81-cmo8...

£199 each end for discs, pads, sensors and shims.

[Kermitgreenmeanmachine]

Just dont have the time to DIY. Could buy the parts and get my mechanic to do them for me. He services his own 911.

[FarQue]

Jasmine Porshalink service menu suggests £365 & £345 frt and rr fitted. Plus vat.

Edited by FarQue on Tuesday 4th August 18:52

[pete.g]

Use your local mechanic at £600 all in if you can't do it yourself.

The calipers are Brembo and really easy to work on especially if he's fitting Brembo discs and pads.

OPC prices for this are ridiculous.

[Sarnie]

Ian_UK1 said:

Really easy to do yourself. Parts here:

http://www.design911.co.uk/fu/pt66_911_-cma81-cmo8...

£199 each end for discs, pads, sensors and shims.

What about OEM parts though? My car still has Porsche warranty..........the service wear indicator is coming on at the moment. Car is going in for it's 40k service next week so asked OPC to get me quote but if it needs disks and pads all round that'll be £1800 if what has been posted here is correct.

I naturally want to keep the keep within OEM spec for the warranty renewal next year........any other options other than direct from OPC? Don't want them to say next year that they can't warranty my car as my disks and pads aren't compliant!!

Thoughts?

[juansolo]

A couple of hours of your time will save you a stload. It's not a hard job. Looking at less than £300 to DIY all the discs and pads on a Cayman, slightly more on the S as the front discs are more expensive.

Another interesting thing is a lot is made about only using Textar pads and Sebro discs as they're OEM... Well All my discs and pads that came on the car were stamped Made In Italy (Brembo I suspect)... Then there's the comedy of Pagid and Textar, both brands being owned by TMD Friction along with Mintex... My Pagid pads, that came in Pagid boxes, were badged Textar. FWIW I used Pagid pads and discs and the braking performance is every bit as good as it was on OEM. If not slightly better. All from ECP.

If the wear indicator is coming on you'll need new sensors and they're about £10 a corner. Best to swap pads before you hit those or it's gonna cost you another £40. There's a surprising amount of meat left in them when you hit them, which is a bit of a pain. Also there's some 'damping plates' that are used on the front callipers. If you can unstick them from the front pads you can probably clean up and re-used them, Otherwise they're £8 each and you'll need 4.

Edited by juansolo on Tuesday 4th August 22:25

[mollytherocker]

It seems that this is where the OPC really makes money from the warranty.

Any average mechanic can do this job.

[Sarnie]

mollytherocker said:

It seems that this is where the OPC really makes money from the warranty.

Any average mechanic can do this job.

Of course. Catch 22.

Go with the OPC, pay a huge amount for pads and disks. And then even more to renew the warranty. All predominantly to keep the car stock/OEM/Porsche history/warranty for when I sell up in a year or so.

Or use aftermarket and probably superior stuff and accept that I won't be extending the warranty and face seeling a car out of warranty in a private sale with none OEM parts..............

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

[PaulD86]

Does anyone know what Porsche charge for a set of pads and discs if you just buy them from them without fitting?

[juansolo]

PaulD86 said:

Does anyone know what Porsche charge for a set of pads and discs if you just buy them from them without fitting?

You can buy OEM from ECP also.

So for example mine as a 987C 2,7:

Vehicle Manufacturer
Front discs: £136.80 each
Rear discs (don't have VM marked ones so we'll go with Sebro): £68.40 each
Front pads: £94.66
Rear pads (no VM again, so we'll go with Textar): £76.80
Total: £585.86

Pagids
Front discs: £55.80 each
Rear discs: £61.20 each
Front pads: £49.80
Rear pads: £67.20
Total: £351

Sundries you might need:
Brake sensors (if you've hit them, you'll need to swap them): £10.32 each.
Damping plates (again if you need them): £7.96 each,
VM fitting kit (replaces all the parts around the caliper. Again, you should be able to clean up and re-use what's on there). £47.94 each.

Now, if the OPC replaces all the sundries every brake change, you'd be looking at an additional £264.96 Which is fairly outrageous if none of those parts are actually worn. That said, it'd go some way to justifying the £1000 an OPC will try and stiff you to swap the lot. Actually, a couple of hours labour for £117.18 from an OPC wouldn't be bad! But as I say, there's a big *if* behind replacing a load of stuff that shouldn't need replacing.

Also, always just keep an eye on ECP, occasionally they'll have 10-15% off on top of their usual DFS style endless 'sale' (which is how I got them for under £300). I tend to buy parts when they have this running and just store them until I need them.

Interesting that the rear pads and discs are more expensive than the fronts... Not the case with the S, but the rears on the 2.7/2.9 are shared with the S and the fronts aren't... Parts are more expensive for the S for no good reason it seems.

Edited by juansolo on Wednesday 5th August 08:47

[Ian_UK1]

Sarnie said:

What about OEM parts though? My car still has Porsche warranty..........the service wear indicator is coming on at the moment. Car is going in for it's 40k service next week so asked OPC to get me quote but if it needs disks and pads all round that'll be £1800 if what has been posted here is correct.

I naturally want to keep the keep within OEM spec for the warranty renewal next year........any other options other than direct from OPC? Don't want them to say next year that they can't warranty my car as my disks and pads aren't compliant!!

Thoughts?

I've used aftermarket brake parts (the inevitable Sebro/Textar combination) on all my Porsches and the main dealers have never even noticed. They are identical to Porsche parts - even in their finish - other than a couple of part number stamps you can't see without taking the brakes apart. I even traded-in my Gen-1 997S (complete with aftermarket brakes and aftermarket, anthracite refinish on the Lobster Fork wheels) against the Gen-2 I have now. My old Gen-1 was on the OPC forecourt a week later as a Porsche Approved car.

[FarQue]

anonymous said:

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I agree that there is money to be saved here if a given owner is capable or inclined. However, I'm sure there are owners who lack the skills to carry out what many folk would consider 'easy'. They may also lack the tools or even a safe working area.

[pete.g]

Ian_UK1 said:

Sarnie said:

What about OEM parts though? My car still has Porsche warranty..........the service wear indicator is coming on at the moment. Car is going in for it's 40k service next week so asked OPC to get me quote but if it needs disks and pads all round that'll be £1800 if what has been posted here is correct.

I naturally want to keep the keep within OEM spec for the warranty renewal next year........any other options other than direct from OPC? Don't want them to say next year that they can't warranty my car as my disks and pads aren't compliant!!

Thoughts?

I've used aftermarket brake parts (the inevitable Sebro/Textar combination) on all my Porsches and the main dealers have never even noticed. They are identical to Porsche parts - even in their finish - other than a couple of part number stamps you can't see without taking the brakes apart. I even traded-in my Gen-1 997S (complete with aftermarket brakes and aftermarket, anthracite refinish on the Lobster Fork wheels) against the Gen-2 I have now. My old Gen-1 was on the OPC forecourt a week later as a Porsche Approved car.

More or less the same as my experience trading a 987 C for a 981, just wanted to add that the Pagid pads I fitted were exactly the same as the ones I removed, and as I'd owned the car from new they were what had been factory fitted. I could not see any identifying marks on either the original discs or the Pagid ones I fitted. I would just fit the aftermarket ones again, well before any visit to the OPC, which I only use for servicing, to keep the book stamped.

[juansolo]

pete.g said:

More or less the same as my experience trading a 987 C for a 981, just wanted to add that the Pagid pads I fitted were exactly the same as the ones I removed, and as I'd owned the car from new they were what had been factory fitted. I could not see any identifying marks on either the original discs or the Pagid ones I fitted. I would just fit the aftermarket ones again, well before any visit to the OPC, which I only use for servicing, to keep the book stamped.

The Pagids I bought were actually stamped Textar

[Kermitgreenmeanmachine]

Thanks for the tips. The best the OPC would do is £1550 for both ends. Too much for my 08 car. I will buy the Textar or Pagid parts and get my mechanic to do them for 600 all in.

[Sarnie]

Sarnie said:

Ian_UK1 said:

Really easy to do yourself. Parts here:

http://www.design911.co.uk/fu/pt66_911_-cma81-cmo8...

£199 each end for discs, pads, sensors and shims.

What about OEM parts though? My car still has Porsche warranty..........the service wear indicator is coming on at the moment. Car is going in for it's 40k service next week so asked OPC to get me quote but if it needs disks and pads all round that'll be £1800 if what has been posted here is correct.

I naturally want to keep the keep within OEM spec for the warranty renewal next year........any other options other than direct from OPC? Don't want them to say next year that they can't warranty my car as my disks and pads aren't compliant!!

Thoughts?

So, to bring this back up, my car is in for it's four year service and the brake pad wear sensor came on recently.....just had an email quoting me;

"Front Discs and Pads £920.14"

£920 seems steep just for the front pads and discs!?!?!?

[LordHaveMurci]

Sarnie said:

So, to bring this back up, my car is in for it's four year service and the brake pad wear sensor came on recently.....just had an email quoting me;

"Front Discs and Pads £920.14"

£920 seems steep just for the front pads and discs!?!?!?

As all the posts above, yes it's very steep.