Admission of negligence
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sebulban said:
Im not going to say what Porsche head office came back with this evening..... as someone pointed out probably best to keep the details quiet. Needless to say had I tuck tailed and done what a lot of you clearly do in your everyday life I wouldn't be getting the result I have :-)
Oh dear. There's a difference between tucking tail and having personal standards. I wouldn't have taken the route you did, not because I'd be afraid of Porsche, but because I'd find it a distasteful way to conduct myself. If you're happy to live like that and "win", then good for you. Don't bother replying because I'm no longer following this thread.VladD said:
Oh dear. There's a difference between tucking tail and having personal standards. I wouldn't have taken the route you did, not because I'd be afraid of Porsche, but because I'd find it a distasteful way to conduct myself. If you're happy to live like that and "win", then good for you. Don't bother replying because I'm no longer following this thread.
I suspect the true cost of what was agreed will only be known if / when the OP needs some goodwill from his OPC...
Oso said:
I can certainly see the similarities here with the MMA fighter: for one thing, you clearly like to have your fights in front of an audience - and you certainly got one here on PH for this fight with your OPC!
Do traditional martial arts approve of unnecessary aggression?
You've had this battle very much in public - so we've seen a bit about what you're about - and fair play to you, you seem happy with how it ended, well done. But don't make the mistake of thinking that means you know much about any of us or what we do in our everyday life.
You've had a lot of help offered on here; yep you've caught some incoming and there have been a few arguments on the sidelines (as is alway the case on PH) - but aren't there more magnanimous ways to sign off than implying that you're the only one with any balls around here?
How is the car any way? Maybe share some thoughts about how it is driving now it's back? What are you planning to do when you get the geometry done?
Sorry - been away in Spain and just back.Do traditional martial arts approve of unnecessary aggression?
You've had this battle very much in public - so we've seen a bit about what you're about - and fair play to you, you seem happy with how it ended, well done. But don't make the mistake of thinking that means you know much about any of us or what we do in our everyday life.
You've had a lot of help offered on here; yep you've caught some incoming and there have been a few arguments on the sidelines (as is alway the case on PH) - but aren't there more magnanimous ways to sign off than implying that you're the only one with any balls around here?
How is the car any way? Maybe share some thoughts about how it is driving now it's back? What are you planning to do when you get the geometry done?
There was no unnecessary aggression - theres no tone here. Meeting fire with fire is allowed though.... ;-)
The car seems fine thanks. One thing I have learnt is that as a beginner in the sports car world I don't know my car at all in terms of knowing if it is not handling correctly to spot a minor fault before it becomes a larger one. I may have to accept that or upskill. Isnt a sign of stupidity making the same mistake over and over? But all I can say is before it happened I did not have any real signs in the days/weeks leading up to it.
Im not sure what you meant by what am I planning to do when I get the geometry done?
In terms of a settlement from Porsche head office... I have received a happy settlement yes. I have suffered no cost.... I have some compo & future goodwill so I continue to use the OPC I have been. I am due to go in and meet the manager - and will heed someones advice on here from earlier that its best to play nice in these situations.
All joking aside - I have appreciated all comments as I've learnt plenty.
I know that no one really cares too much - but as I got some good advice on here just finishing off.
I went to a suspension specialist.
This is AFTER Porsche have had the car back in following the original blow out. And paying for everything but not admitting they didn't do the alignment etc correctly.
3 of the 4 tyres balancing was out. One by as much as 45g on the rear where they had been counterbalanced with weights and on more than one place round the inside of the wheel. Which I am told is very shoddy work.
Of the 14 areas on the before measurement on then alignment - 6 were completely out (camber & toe). Obviously corrected now.
The steering wheel was not level either. That has also been requested.
Only cost £100 so not bad. Thanks for the advice.
I am just so disappointed by the constant poor service. Thats now OPC Bristol & Cardiff!
I went to a suspension specialist.
This is AFTER Porsche have had the car back in following the original blow out. And paying for everything but not admitting they didn't do the alignment etc correctly.
3 of the 4 tyres balancing was out. One by as much as 45g on the rear where they had been counterbalanced with weights and on more than one place round the inside of the wheel. Which I am told is very shoddy work.
Of the 14 areas on the before measurement on then alignment - 6 were completely out (camber & toe). Obviously corrected now.
The steering wheel was not level either. That has also been requested.
Only cost £100 so not bad. Thanks for the advice.
I am just so disappointed by the constant poor service. Thats now OPC Bristol & Cardiff!
Some elements of this thread remind me of an incident I had several years ago with an Audi TT. Shortly after a main dealer service which included alignment check, I went to Kwik Fit for a new set of tyres. They advised that the geo was so far out that they suspected the car had suffered suspension damage. When presented with the read outs, the Audi dealer immediately refunded the geometry costs; I went back to the original dealer who inspected the car and acknowledged there had been damage and they replaced part of the rear suspension under warranty. I probably over reacted and immediately got rid of the car. If I were a bit more rational and in the OP's position, I'd certainly go to one of the recognised specialist Porsche geometry independents to ensure there are absolutely zero defects remaining on the vehicle. I think that's what you've done but peace of mind will be difficult to achieve after the POTENTIAL of what might have flowed from this incident. Hoping all is now resolved and you can move on with confidence in your car.
Peter
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