Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Discussion
I managed £1500 cash discount + £400 in goods/services in total on brand new BGTS order to my spec, cash purchase, that I put in in January and collected from factory in July. £1K was up front to sweeten the deal and get me to sign there and then so I didn't go to another OPC a bit closer to me, and the final £500 + £400 G&S was when I got caught by the ~£900 price increase in April and I kicked up a massive fuss
ORD said:
A 2.7 on 20 inch wheels is not much fun to drive. Absurdly over-tyred. And remember that huge wheels means very expensive tyres. A 2.7 should be on 18s.
That's very much a matter of opinion - I was (initially) seduced by a 2.7 on 20"s. While personally I think 19s are a better choice, many like the look of 20s and if you are one of them then the Black Edition may look like a good deal. I have both 18s and 19s and am not keen on the 18s.bcr5784 said:
ORD said:
A 2.7 on 20 inch wheels is not much fun to drive. Absurdly over-tyred. And remember that huge wheels means very expensive tyres. A 2.7 should be on 18s.
That's very much a matter of opinion - I was (initially) seduced by a 2.7 on 20"s. While personally I think 19s are a better choice, many like the look of 20s and if you are one of them then the Black Edition may look like a good deal. I have both 18s and 19s and am not keen on the 18s.If you think about the reasonably low weight of a 2.7, its fairly modest power (especially in the mid-range) and the natural traction and grip advantages of its layout, the idea that it needs whopping great wheels and loads of tyre seems bonkers to me. Just fashion.
ORD said:
But it's not just about appearance. Caymans handle substantially better on smaller wheels, in my experience: lower unspring weight so a bit more nimble-feeling; better turn in; more comfortable; a bit more adjustable on the throttle. I can even see the sense of 17s unless you do lots of high speeds.
If you think about the reasonably low weight of a 2.7, its fairly modest power (especially in the mid-range) and the natural traction and grip advantages of its layout, the idea that it needs whopping great wheels and loads of tyre seems bonkers to me. Just fashion.
That is very much a matter of opinion. There is actually no significant difference in weight (I've weighed mine) If you want to save unsprung weight choose the right tyre - you can save 3kg per corner. Since the tyres are the same width whether you have 18, 19 or 20" actual grip levels are very little affected. However slip angles will be a bit less with lower profile tyres, which you may or may not prefer. Personally I prefer the more immediate steering response and less initial understeer of 19s to 18s, and the wider rear rims with 19 or 20 inch wheels give a more stable rear end. Clearly you and moose have a different view. If you think about the reasonably low weight of a 2.7, its fairly modest power (especially in the mid-range) and the natural traction and grip advantages of its layout, the idea that it needs whopping great wheels and loads of tyre seems bonkers to me. Just fashion.
I wouldn't actually argue about all 981s being more fun with less grip, but the 18/19/20 discussion doesn't really impinge upon it to any great degree, since the actual tyre diameter and width (and hence the contact patch area and shape) differs little regardless of the wheel size chosen. Only sidewall height is actually affected.
Edited by bcr5784 on Saturday 10th October 17:24
Edited by bcr5784 on Saturday 10th October 17:41
anonymous said:
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Like the black edition Caymen - its a decent spec'd car for the money. It will be a nice new car to own but doubt it will be 'special' enough long term to be appreciating asset like the GT cars.
Two weeks ago I bought a Cayman 2.7 which was in-stock. I costed the car on the configurator at £54k but I paid £50k which is approx 7.5% discount I beleive. Other dealers also offered approximately 5% discount on cars they held in-stock. There are it seems very few cars around so there isn't the option of having exactly the spec you want.
My two pence...
Reasonable discounts were available. I've had my 'built to spec' 2.7 Boxster for 18months. Price with options was a tad over £44k. I paid £39.5k, admittedly via PCP. About 10% discount if I've got my sums right.
My OPC Dealer Principle has recently become a client of mine (he wasn't at the time I bought the Porsche). Chatting to him a couple of weeks ago. He mentioned a recent surge in demand for Boxsters/Caymans as people are rushing to buy the last of the six cylinder models before the four-pots arrive next year. Maybe this is why discounts seem rare at the moment?
Reasonable discounts were available. I've had my 'built to spec' 2.7 Boxster for 18months. Price with options was a tad over £44k. I paid £39.5k, admittedly via PCP. About 10% discount if I've got my sums right.
My OPC Dealer Principle has recently become a client of mine (he wasn't at the time I bought the Porsche). Chatting to him a couple of weeks ago. He mentioned a recent surge in demand for Boxsters/Caymans as people are rushing to buy the last of the six cylinder models before the four-pots arrive next year. Maybe this is why discounts seem rare at the moment?
anonymous said:
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My dealer positively encouraged me to take finance and pay it off immediately, so that I could take advantage of the manufacturer's incentive. As for yours frowning on it, if my dealer said that I'd take my business elsewhere, what a cheek!Also, your dealer won't know if you pay off the finance once you've got the car, so I can't see how it would affect your relationship with them. Still, it's your money...
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