981 or 987s

[ORD]

The brakes on my 997 are even longer travel than those on my old 987 (it seems), but they are more linear and so I prefer them. They are firm enough if you stand on them and fine for h&t. I don't mind a longish brake for h&t - you just need decent resistance towards the bottom of the travel and not too much assistance. In my experience, what makes h&t very difficult is brakes that respond in a very non-linear way and/or are simply too sensitive. I think I always press slightly harder on the brake than I intend when I shift to the throttle. I am sure that more skilled drivers avoid this, but it's quite a fine motor skill not to increase the pressure a bit (at least sometimes).

I think people refer to Audi for things like this because it was in an Audi that they first thought 'What the fk are these brakes?!'. The reality is that most people love an over-servoed brake pedal because, save in an emergency stop, they never use more than 20% of the travel (just like the throttle and rev range).

It always takes me a while to get used to brakes that give you almost all of what they have in the first couple of inches of travel and respond to more pressure with 'You want more?! No can do'. Never actually had any problem stopping, but have had a few moments of thinking that the brakes were fked.

I think I brake quite hard, but I think the Porsche brakes last longer with firm braking than with pissing about. One problem with over-servoed brakes is that, for me at least, they don't inspire confidence so I end up braking earlier and more gently because I don't trust them to respond predictably to the inputs.

[PorscheGT4]

rObArtes said:

my 2.9 Cayman is now 6 1/2 years old with 46k miles on it. just thought it's a good time to move it on.
is it worth keeping hold of?

have you driven both yet ?

if you want me to tell you what to buy, buy that private R which is for sale at £39k from a PH member here.

[Trev450]

DJMC said:

I do wish Porsche would Audify the Cayman's front wheels jumping at full lock and low speed though. How did that ever get through testing?

That is one of the downsides of owning a car that has a decent suspension set up as opposed to a more mainstream, appease Joe public offering. It's a very small price to pay and is only noticeable during colder weather.

[bcr5784]

Trev450 said:

That is one of the downsides of owning a car that has a decent suspension set up as opposed to a more mainstream, appease Joe public offering. It's a very small price to pay and is only noticeable during colder weather.

Are you sure it's not just a case of not following true Ackermann to limit wheelarch intrusion and therefore allow decent footroom? The 981 has a lot of lock for a mid-engined car, but surprisingly little wheelarch intrusion.

[mollytherocker]

I reckon the Audi brakes reference is understood by most.

Mind you, they are nothing compared to Volvos set up. They are ridiculous and bordering on dangerous!