12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing

12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing

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WCZ

10,526 posts

194 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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buckets are essential imv, adds more to the experience, has lots of extra side support when cornering/makes you feel more in touch with the road + you can brag about having the seats from the 918 hypercar

I personally wouldn't buy a gt4 without them
buckets + no aircon would be my pref

JeffC

1,688 posts

212 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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I am on selling my Spyder at the moment and am looking to sell it quickly due to a house purchase so have been phoning round getting trade bids , speaking with a few dealers about the market regarding both Spyders and Gt4s , the seats appear to have more of a bearing on price that a lot would imagine , 2 dealers said they would not bid on either car for stock if they did not have buckets, picking the bones from what I have heard this week I would suggest anyone trading a Gt4 at the moment is looking at getting around £5k over list with buckets and that figure would less with the arm chairs fitted.

2010spy

1,916 posts

164 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Jeff, you getting decent bids on the Spyder at this time of year?

av185

18,514 posts

127 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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JeffC said:
regarding both Spyders and Gt4s , the seats appear to have more of a bearing on price that a lot would imagine , 2 dealers said they would not bid on either car for stock if they did not have buckets, picking the bones from what I have heard this week I would suggest anyone trading a Gt4 at the moment is looking at getting around £5k over list with buckets and that figure would less with the arm chairs fitted.
Case rested. judge

The £5k over list is obviously subject to age, spec, colour and mileage

Buckets in a GT3 are quite clearly crucial to maximising price.......no reason why both the GT4 and Spyder would be any different.


Porsche911R

21,146 posts

265 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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There never was a case, the markets demanded buckets in these cars for 15 plus years, to say other wise make one look a bit daft.

But then dealers and even the top specialist still don't learn ! and that's what sits stuck for sale prices dropping, to apoint getting a bargain and retrofitting buckets back in can work very well.

GT4P

5,203 posts

185 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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WCZ said:
you can brag about having the seats from the 918 hypercar
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Which they are not! They are a 918 "style " seat but not the actual 918 ones!

JeffC

1,688 posts

212 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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2010spy said:
Jeff, you getting decent bids on the Spyder at this time of year?
yes agreed a price and its going Friday frownfrown

sebulban

285 posts

119 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Porsche911R said:
There never was a case, the markets demanded buckets in these cars for 15 plus years, to say other wise make one look a bit daft.

But then dealers and even the top specialist still don't learn ! and that's what sits stuck for sale prices dropping, to apoint getting a bargain and retrofitting buckets back in can work very well.
If thats the case why not just have all GT cars with buckets.....

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

265 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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because rich 1st time buyers don't care that much and as cars fetch overs they can have what seats they like.

But the 2nd hand market is way off what the new market asks for.
also some cars came with buckets standard and were a no cost option delete which people did ! even dealer pre orders !!!

Markets learning as dealers are setting stung, but it's taken 15 years for some to realise !

Edited by Porsche911R on Wednesday 7th December 18:47

bcr5784

7,109 posts

145 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Porsche911R said:
how can you say this going by 15 years of GT3 sales, Cayman R sales and now the sold OPC GT4 list lol

Buckets are a given in GT cars even more so 2nd hand.
If you look at the prices asked in medianuk's list, that doesn't seem to be borne out. Cardiff has what appear to be 2 more or less identical cars one with buckets, one with 18 way sports seats - same price. Buckets do look the biz and that is why most are specified. But for those who are trying to use the car as something other than a weekend hoon or track day 18 ways are a more sensible choice.

In the longer term you may well be right about prices, but prices for GT cars long term have little to with practicality - because it becomes uneconomic to drive the bloody things.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

265 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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bcr5784 said:
But for those who are trying to use the car as something other than a weekend hoon or track day 18 ways are a more sensible choice.
If you want to spend £90k buy a 991 GTS that being the sensible choice over a GT4 for a daily, has the PDK so many love, 18 ways seats, reverse sensors, a better engine, and a good radio options.

As for the asking price of the "Cardiff" cars, who cares, we only care about the sold cars, people can ask what price they like.
Both "Cardiff" cars are sans leather also, so good luck with that atm.

EVERY listed SOLD car has had leather !


Edited by Porsche911R on Wednesday 7th December 19:31

GT4RS

4,425 posts

197 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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JayK12 said:
I did call the dealer and have been waiting for a cost to change from my GTS to this for a week now............doesn't look like there interested.
I have been in a similar situation, this is most probably down to the car being SOR meaning they would have to buy yours in as a px which may not make it viable unless they kick you down low!

GT4RS

4,425 posts

197 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Porsche911R said:
how can you say this going by 15 years of GT3 sales, Cayman R sales and now the sold OPC GT4 list lol

Buckets are a given in GT cars even more so 2nd hand.
I would have to disagree, I don't see the point in having buckets on there own. They need to be with a club sport pack.

Jesus

14,698 posts

189 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Made bugger all difference to the price I got for my 987 Spyder, with sports seats.

GT3cs

1,200 posts

241 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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GT4RS said:
JayK12 said:
I did call the dealer and have been waiting for a cost to change from my GTS to this for a week now............doesn't look like there interested.
I have been in a similar situation, this is most probably down to the car being SOR meaning they would have to buy yours in as a px which may not make it viable unless they kick you down low!
Good call but in this case I'm pretty sure it's not SOR as the previous owner took a Spyder from the same dealer . Have you gave them a chase as it does seem odd . I can never get them off the phone once I show a sniff of interest ! Always had good comms with them ....

GT4RS

4,425 posts

197 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Out of interest what is the most desirable and least desirable exterior colour on a Gt4?

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

265 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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GT4RS said:
Out of interest what is the most desirable and least desirable exterior colour on a Gt4?
looking at the list all looks even.
Colours I don't like are
Rodium.
Black.
some PTS fiat 500 colours !

when I ordered, the colour choice was very ltd, I had a choice of about 4 !!! 3 of the main colors were off the list !!! unless I had normal seats.

So I took buckets over colour in the end. early orders were a right mess.

I think Carmine GT4's look stunning and so does GT silver with yellow, and PCCB's
PTS, well Voodoo and Slate grey look great and would be a future choice.


bcr5784

7,109 posts

145 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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GT4RS said:
I would have to disagree, I don't see the point in having buckets on there own. They need to be with a club sport pack.
+1 fixed belts (if you are serious) are probably more important than seats. But most people simply wouldn't put up with fixed belts on the road (and they don't have the same kudos..)

bcr5784

7,109 posts

145 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Porsche911R said:
EVERY listed SOLD car has had leather !


Edited by Porsche911R on Wednesday 7th December 19:31
That says it all. Leather is the silliest choice for a sports car - far too slippy. (Forgetting about too hot in summer and too cold in winter). As I say it's about image, look - not functionality/practicality.

jcosh

1,172 posts

232 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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GT4RS said:
Porsche911R said:
how can you say this going by 15 years of GT3 sales, Cayman R sales and now the sold OPC GT4 list lol

Buckets are a given in GT cars even more so 2nd hand.
I would have to disagree, I don't see the point in having buckets on there own. They need to be with a club sport pack.
Man talks sense on PistonHeads, well I never!

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