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I think you can add location to the mix as well because is not that car up in Scotland ? if that was in the south it would have gone!
A few years ago the mother in law was looking at a 3 year old merc which was £25 k in the south dealers so I found her one in Leeds with a better spec ,lower miles and £5k cheaper both were main dealers!
Also my last 2 cars I have bought new from Sheffield and Silverstone cheaper than down here in the south!
A few years ago the mother in law was looking at a 3 year old merc which was £25 k in the south dealers so I found her one in Leeds with a better spec ,lower miles and £5k cheaper both were main dealers!
Also my last 2 cars I have bought new from Sheffield and Silverstone cheaper than down here in the south!
Edited by GT4P on Sunday 5th June 10:59
Porsche911R said:
I think you miss the point that the £85k car is a pure stock £65k car.
Most cars seems to be £75k list. Add PCCB or pts and you can be up at £85k list.
That £85k car seems expensive to me as still £20k overs.
I would take £90k for mine now and it's a £75k car with loads of kit so would be much better value.
Just like 991 Gt3 start at £120k now they still go upto £165k
Like wise 458 etc
Spec is key to price, the £85k car for sale is a one off zero spec car and shows a healthy £20k profit.
At the risk of going on about values I agree with this. The gt4 is the most money I've ever sunk in a car, so there's no point pretending values aren't interesting!Most cars seems to be £75k list. Add PCCB or pts and you can be up at £85k list.
That £85k car seems expensive to me as still £20k overs.
I would take £90k for mine now and it's a £75k car with loads of kit so would be much better value.
Just like 991 Gt3 start at £120k now they still go upto £165k
Like wise 458 etc
Spec is key to price, the £85k car for sale is a one off zero spec car and shows a healthy £20k profit.
If you're prepared to pay overs, you're gonna look for the spec as close to what you want as possible.
I haven't bothered to look but I'm sure a nicely specced 718S is in the £60s.
Until there's confirmation on what engine the next spyder/gt4 is running I can't see them going below list.
That in itself would be more than satisfying for me.
Granted for a myriad of different reasons there's undoubtedly a bubble on alot of cars. There'll be an adjustment, most likely downwards , hard or soft who knows? Though bubbles don't have a soft landing do they?!
With the gt4, I still don't think 5-10k over is a huge percentage given its apparent value compared to the alternatives in the new car market.
With the gt4, I still don't think 5-10k over is a huge percentage given its apparent value compared to the alternatives in the new car market.
I think the main reason why GT4 values are softening is that Porsche is still building them. People have confirmed delivery dates as late as week 40, so they'll continue building them at least until late September, possibly longer.
I find this surprising considering they have started 982 Boxster production a while ago and 982 Cayman production just recently.
I find this surprising considering they have started 982 Boxster production a while ago and 982 Cayman production just recently.
EricE said:
I think the main reason why GT4 values are softening is that Porsche is still building them. People have confirmed delivery dates as late as week 40, so they'll continue building them at least until late September, possibly longer.
I find this surprising considering they have started 982 Boxster production a while ago and 982 Cayman production just recently.
Aren't gt3rs production still ongoing as well and ongoing well into the year as well?I find this surprising considering they have started 982 Boxster production a while ago and 982 Cayman production just recently.
The owner of the 85k base car is open to offers, I have emailed him and he has confirmed this. Please note I'm unsure on how much he will move but if someone is looking for a cheaper gt4 now this may be the one for you!
Personal I wouldn't pay over list for any gt4.
Porsche911R said:
Spec and miles have always been key to price as can been seen in the 991gt3 prices, the base cars are bloody hard to sell.
Make him an offer as you say you would buy at £79k :-)
I bet you don't though as you also want the spec :-)
I just paid £7k more for my R than the cheapest R for sale due to spec.
People have a choice, buy a cheaper car with no spec or buy a more expensive one with spec.
Talking prices is cheap parting with money is the real deal.
Dealers will talk down spec come part ex as they want to buy your car at base price, but back in the real world REAL buyers are fussy buggers and want ALL the spec I find.
That car at £85k is doing every owner a massive favour and it's the perfect base line , if some one offered me £85k I would say if you want a £85k car go buy the black one, stops low offer bulls
tters right there.
Make him an offer as you say you would buy at £79k :-)
I bet you don't though as you also want the spec :-)
I just paid £7k more for my R than the cheapest R for sale due to spec.
People have a choice, buy a cheaper car with no spec or buy a more expensive one with spec.
Talking prices is cheap parting with money is the real deal.
Dealers will talk down spec come part ex as they want to buy your car at base price, but back in the real world REAL buyers are fussy buggers and want ALL the spec I find.
That car at £85k is doing every owner a massive favour and it's the perfect base line , if some one offered me £85k I would say if you want a £85k car go buy the black one, stops low offer bulls
tters right there.Edited by Porsche911R on Sunday 5th June 10:15
GT4P said:
I think you can add location to the mix as well because is not that car up in Scotland ? if that was in the south it would have gone!
Location indeed, I wouldn't wish to travel that far, but some will. However, that location (around Aberdeen) is a good place to look for cars, the area is in free fall with the reduction in oil production. Assuming the owner of the cheapest GT4 managed to get his allocation (not this cancelled order with fixed spec), I'm sure he'll be open to offers on it if someone saying they'd pay high 70's and spec is not important.EricE said:
I think the main reason why GT4 values are softening is that Porsche is still building them. People have confirmed delivery dates as late as week 40, so they'll continue building them at least until late September, possibly longer.
I find this surprising considering they have started 982 Boxster production a while ago and 982 Cayman production just recently.
Where has this info come from? 981 production stops in July for the German summer break, retooling for 718 Cayman and then production restarts on the new car in September. I find this surprising considering they have started 982 Boxster production a while ago and 982 Cayman production just recently.
Shazbat said:
These will be in the 60's in no time.
RS going the same way, sub 200 anytime soon.
Anyone who has paid a big chunk over list had done their bks.
It's one thing to say the RS will beunder 200k, while the GT4 will be in the 60's. The two are completely unconnected. RS going the same way, sub 200 anytime soon.
Anyone who has paid a big chunk over list had done their b
ks.At 200k the RS is still trading 50k over list and is in competitive territory. At 60, the GT4 has gone under list and would mean GTS and similar competition has tumbled as well. I don't see that happening anytime soon.
JLZ78 said:
Where has this info come from? 981 production stops in July for the German summer break, retooling for 718 Cayman and then production restarts on the new car in September.
It may be that production continues in Osnabruck past hols as 718 Boxster and Cayman is now all at StuttgartProduction ends in July FYI, final deliveries in August. Additional allocations that came through at the end of last year and early part of this year were the final lot, there haven't been any since; just a few cancelled orders etc.
As for values, they may end up back at list, but given how well the GTS has held value, I cannot see them dropping below, and not for a year or two. Those wanting to be first have no gone, leaving the market to those that would like to get in as close to list price as possible; had there been only 10 on the market right now, prices would still be higher, but it is a simple case of supply versus demand, and lack of foresight by some to sell in the height of summer when everyone else is too!
As for values, they may end up back at list, but given how well the GTS has held value, I cannot see them dropping below, and not for a year or two. Those wanting to be first have no gone, leaving the market to those that would like to get in as close to list price as possible; had there been only 10 on the market right now, prices would still be higher, but it is a simple case of supply versus demand, and lack of foresight by some to sell in the height of summer when everyone else is too!
EricE said:
I think the main reason why GT4 values are softening is that Porsche is still building them. People have confirmed delivery dates as late as week 40.
I don't think that's correct. Talking to my OPC DP they said they got a few extra allocations last March, but their final cars are being delivered in July.mdianuk said:
Production ends in July FYI, final deliveries in August. Additional allocations that came through at the end of last year and early part of this year were the final lot, there haven't been any since; just a few cancelled orders etc.
I don't think there have been any UK allocations this year? i think the last ones were in Q4 last year.Seen this all before with low production cars and eventually the prices will come down especially when the next model comes along,at the moment with the gt3 rs commanding crazy money it still makes the gt4 a great buy but it really gets your goat having to pay 20 to 30k premium,i wont lie would love a gt4 but i have never had to pay 35 precent above list,so like others will sit tight and just wait and im guessing in around 8/12 monthes time the prices will come down to around 75k to 85 k depending on mileage and spec and then i will jump in.I have had a couple of cars offered to me with a 12k ish premium but they were both in yellow which seem strange,but im after white or blue.Fingers crossed will be in one before next summer.
cheers simon
cheers simon
Twinfan said:
I don't think there have been any UK allocations this year? i think the last ones were in Q4 last year.
There was a small allocation early in the year, as a friend of mine got one, but that of course is based on the OPC suggesting they got an extra one, for all we know it could have been a cancelled order prior to spec lock-in.Gassing Station | Boxster/Cayman | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff