12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing

12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing

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Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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mdianuk said:
There was a small allocation early in the year, as a friend of mine got one, but that of course is based on the OPC suggesting they got an extra one, for all we know it could have been a cancelled order prior to spec lock-in.
More likely I think...

Shazbat

170 posts

137 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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JLZ78 said:
Shazbat said:
These will be in the 60's in no time.

RS going the same way, sub 200 anytime soon.

Anyone who has paid a big chunk over list had done their bks.
It's one thing to say the RS will beunder 200k, while the GT4 will be in the 60's. The two are completely unconnected.

At 200k the RS is still trading 50k over list and is in competitive territory. At 60, the GT4 has gone under list and would mean GTS and similar competition has tumbled as well. I don't see that happening anytime soon.
Who said they were connected ? So what if they're connected or not ..... don't see the relevance. RS will be sub 200k, GT4 will be in the 60's .... and a lot sooner than you think. Dont care how this equates to 'list', doesn't matter.

Edited by Shazbat on Monday 6th June 20:06

mdianuk

2,890 posts

171 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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Shazbat said:
Who said they were connected ? So what if they're connected or not ..... don't see the relevance. RS will be sub 200k, GT4 will be in the 60's .... and a lot sooner than you think. Dont care how this equates to 'list', doesn't matter.
haha, laughable. GTS's are still in the £60k's, why would the GT4's be there soon.

lemmingjames

7,460 posts

204 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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June 23rd independence day

Sam All

3,101 posts

101 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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Shazbat said:
Who said they were connected ? So what if they're connected or not ..... don't see the relevance. RS will be sub 200k, GT4 will be in the 60's .... and a lot sooner than you think. Dont care how this equates to 'list', doesn't matter.
Gt4's at 60's sound attractive - your rationale for this?


av185

18,514 posts

127 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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mdianuk said:
Shazbat said:
Who said they were connected ? So what if they're connected or not ..... don't see the relevance. RS will be sub 200k, GT4 will be in the 60's .... and a lot sooner than you think. Dont care how this equates to 'list', doesn't matter.
haha, laughable. GTS's are still in the £60k's, why would the GT4's be there soon.
Yep correct....about as much chance that Gt4s in 60s as GT3 RS in the130s...hehe

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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I expect GT4s to remain at list (including options) at the bottom of their depreciation curve, much like the 991 GT3 has. Let's wait once production stops.

Any new GT4 is probably at least 3 years away and I expect list to be a lot more than for the current car.

m33ufo

4,959 posts

231 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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Let's not forget that it was only a few years ago a 997.2 RS was around £80K from OPC. The non-depreciating / appreciating GT product is a recent phenomenon. Whilst I don't see the GT4, GT3 or RS dropping below list in the near future it's ALMOST inevitable that they will.

giles panizzi

323 posts

233 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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The problem is that there is nothing this side of £100k to compete with the GT4 - I won't be selling/cashing in any time soon :-)

GP

v8ksn

4,711 posts

184 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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When the new 991.2 GT3 is released those with £100k to spend will end up putting it into the 911 rather than the GT4 I reckon.

991 RS will NEVER drop below £200k and as for GT4's dropping to £60k soon, no way!

Anyway, this is all boring, lets hear about how they drive and where you all have been in them please thumbup

Phooey

12,605 posts

169 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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Main issue I see is OPC's not being able to advertise GT4's and RS's. The OPC's are very good at maintaining strong prices, so when 30-40 cars become available out of the Porsche network you can only expect the cars to drop. I very much doubt they will hit list - the OPC's will have them back up at 100k before we know it. Now could be the best time to buy..

Fokker

3,460 posts

222 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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Phooey said:
Main issue I see is OPC's not being able to advertise GT4's and RS's. The OPC's are very good at maintaining strong prices, so when 30-40 cars become available out of the Porsche network you can only expect the cars to drop. I very much doubt they will hit list - the OPC's will have them back up at 100k before we know it. Now could be the best time to buy..
Thats very possibly Phooey.

Ive noticed that very few GT3 991 for sale on the Porsche used site too and all with a few miles last time i looked? Are they not allowed to sell low miles GT3's either even if a few years old?
The 'Turbo' thing interests me too as Ive noticed that 991 GTS' have totally dried up with very few for sale compared to about 2 months ago when there were about 20? Is that the summer thing or a turbo thing?

I currently have a 991 Gen 2 S for a few days to try it out and oh my lord it is unresponsive. Its quick on boost but is a blunt tool compared to the Gen 1 3.8. I am massively disappointed with the engine.
The noise is all whooshing and popping which is a bit embarrassing for an everyday driver and as said, the lag and response from the engine is a real downer. It doesnt feel like a Porsche sports car at all to me, more like a diesel Panamera.

How many decades have they been trying to get rid of turbo lag??

Long live the GT normally aspirated products !


lemmingjames

7,460 posts

204 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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v8ksn said:
When the new 991.2 GT3 is released those with £100k to spend will end up putting it into the 911 rather than the GT4 I reckon.

991 RS will NEVER drop below £200k and as for GT4's dropping to £60k soon, no way!

Anyway, this is all boring, lets hear about how they drive and where you all have been in them please thumbup
Comes into a values thread complaining about people talking values

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

265 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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GT4 could go up it could go down, it all depends what the next GT4 and GT3 are.

hondansx

4,569 posts

225 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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As someone has said, the problem really is Porsche have no competition.

Back in the day, the trackday crew consisted of 996 and 997 GT3s, upstarts in Noble M12s, CSL owners and then the usual Lotus Elise brigade with Honda conversions.

People like McLaren and Ferrari may say they build track day cars, but they don't. They are too expensive and are kept as trinkets. The sad thing is Porsche are creating a similar situation, despite initially releasing cars at relatively low cost.

If it weren't for this, i agree, i'd expect GT3s and GT4s to drop below list price purely because that was the norm before.

v8ksn

4,711 posts

184 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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lemmingjames said:
Comes into a values thread complaining about people talking values
hehe Good point well made beer

Trev450

6,323 posts

172 months

Sunday 12th June 2016
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On the subject of prices and values, does anyone have a UK price list they could mail to me please.

jcosh

1,172 posts

232 months

Sunday 12th June 2016
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Trev450 said:
On the subject of prices and values, does anyone have a UK price list they could mail to me please.
Me too if possible.

GT03ROB

13,268 posts

221 months

Monday 13th June 2016
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The UK is a strange place......

....want a GT4 brand new, no previous owners, from an OPC, for 58k??? There's one sat here looking for an owner. Was the same story with GT3s.

....oh the joys of the Middle East....

GT03ROB

13,268 posts

221 months

Monday 13th June 2016
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GT03ROB said:
The UK is a strange place......

....want a GT4 brand new, no previous owners, from an OPC, for 58k??? There's one sat here looking for an owner. Was the same story with GT3s.

....oh the joys of the Middle East....
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A fair point! But it's not that bad here!

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