12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing

[Koln-RS]

He wants to save face in the light of his Brexit predictions.

Although, obviously, his real motive is to talk things down so that he can get a GT4 at a decent price

[Sam All]

Koln-RS said:

He wants to save face in the light of his Brexit predictions.

Although, obviously, his real motive is to talk things down so that he can get a GT4 at a decent price

[f430hunter]

Compared to the premium that the gt3 rs is so called fetching the gt4 is a real bargain even at 100k take my word for it i would rather have 100k invested in a gt4 than any other performance car,freind of mine has just traded in his aston v12 vantage and lost 60k in 18 monthes,i will be looking to change the gt4 in 2 years time and if i lose 25k i cant see me losing much more.

just my opinion of course simon

[Fokker]

f430hunter said:

Compared to the premium that the gt3 rs is so called fetching the gt4 is a real bargain even at 100k take my word for it i would rather have 100k invested in a gt4 than any other performance car,freind of mine has just traded in his aston v12 vantage and lost 60k in 18 monthes,i will be looking to change the gt4 in 2 years time and if i lose 25k i cant see me losing much more.

just my opinion of course simon

You won't be losing 25k in 2 years thats for sure. You just have to look at the current price of the Cayman GTS in the high 50's and 60's to know that the GT4 will retain strong residuals
Any talk of it losing lot of money is just nonsense in my opinion. If you ask me they'll settle at between 85 - 100k depending on spec and mileage and stay that way until the Gen 2 comes along and depending on whether thats a Turbo or not will see which way the price goes.

The new GT4 will be slightly more expensive at probably 70 - 75k list plus options and if N/A will see a slight dip in Gen 1 prices possibly. If the Gen 2 is a 718 Turbo then you'll see the Gen 1 increase quite significantly in price. My hunch is that the Gen 2 will be N/A and the last of such a breed making it a very special car indeed.

[hunter 66]

Agree ........ but only in the UK
Then lets see how Brexit works ....... if no RHD GT4 .2

[red_slr]

I don't see how it can be NA tbh. I know Porsche have said it will "probably" be NA F6 but there is no NA engine in the 911 range now, so that means they would have to use the old tech. Not very Porsche.

Also I am not sure you could fit the turbo 6 in the GT4 either.

That leaves the 2.5T. Or the 991 GT3 engine

[bcr5784]

red_slr said:

I don't see how it can be NA tbh. I know Porsche have said it will "probably" be NA F6 but there is no NA engine in the 911 range now, so that means they would have to use the old tech. Not very Porsche.

Also I am not sure you could fit the turbo 6 in the GT4 either.

That leaves the 2.5T. Or the 991 GT3 engine

Agree, whatever NA supporters might want, any sensible (for Porsche) NA option will be slower than (say) a 400bhp 2.5T. And there is no way a 718 GT4 is going to be allowed to seriously threaten mid range 911s.

[mdianuk]

There was talk they'd use the same 3.8L lump from the current GT4, but with a slightly higher tune to just below that of the turbo'd 911's, so it is conceivable there will be a 981.2 GT4. No chance of the 4.0L engine, though that would be incredible. Hope they don't make one, but if they do, I'll be sure to be ordering one.

[Fokker]

Agreed and its probably why they have detuned this GT4 unit down to 385bhp to make way for a power hike in the Gen 2 version.

[Porsche911R]

Fokker said:

Agreed and its probably why they have detuned this GT4 unit down to 385bhp to make way for a power hike in the Gen 2 version.

yep they have 2 nice options now 1 just a tune for say 410bhp or 2 the x51 kit for 430bhp

thing is what would you have if the next GT3 is the 4.0l engine and manual as expected, that's the car to own imo but that does leave a lot of room for the 3.8 GT4 with 80bhp less.

[Trev450]

Fokker said:

Agreed and its probably why they have detuned this GT4 unit down to 385bhp to make way for a power hike in the Gen 2 version.

Assuming of course they are not planing to introduce an RS.

[Porsche911R]

As the CS car is having a 70kg correction for racing with new parts, they could use the new parts to now make a RS and save weight.

[red_slr]

I just wonder what their status is re production of the actual motors.
If they continue to use the 991.1 S motor then its all well and good but you need a production line, that does not exist any more.
So then you are looking at small numbers production, whilst possible, expensive.
They are basically having to do this for the 991.2 GT3..

[GT4P]

if the 718 Gts punches 370bhp+ then a n/a. Gt4 at 400 hp is going to struggle ! Imo it will most likely be a F4 turbo with 400 hp!
Plus the only engines porsche now make are f4 turbo in 2.0 and 2.5, f6 turbo in 3.0 and. F6 n/a 4.0 gt lump.
They could bore out the 3.0 turbo to 4.0 n/a but that will be expensive for less than a 10000 units(shared between spyder and gt4) unless the 991.2 Gts carries such an engine also but then that has got to put out in excess of 450hp+ to compete with the current 991.2s which then puts it to close to a gt3!
So flat 4 turbo it is then!

Edited by GT4P on Wednesday 6th July 13:22

[red_slr]

My 2ps worth.. it will be a 425bhp turbo 4.

[Twinfan]

The more I think about it, the more it has to be a turbo four as it'll fall under the 718 banner. Porsche will want to keep the range identity and distance from the 911.

The 981 GT4 was a swansong for NA Caymans which is why it got the green light to have a 911 motor...

[Phooey]

I hope it's a v8

[Koln-RS]

Surely, given Porsche's timescale of doing these things, a Gen 2 GT4 will be at least a couple of years away. We still haven't seen the Gen 2 991 GT3 yet.

[Twinfan]

Yep, it'll be a couple of years yet. My theory is that only 911 GT cars will be NA and they will be (more) expensive.

[ags11]

Detuned 4 litre?