12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing
Discussion
A fellow PHer reports that he has sold his at 4000 mls for what he paid for it, presumably list price. (http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=86&t=1607055)
It looks like the market is cooling off a bit now that the initial honeymoon period is over.
We'll see where the prices settle over time.
It looks like the market is cooling off a bit now that the initial honeymoon period is over.
We'll see where the prices settle over time.
swimd said:
A fellow PHer reports that he has sold his at 4000 mls for what he paid for it, presumably list price. (http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=86&t=1607055)
It looks like the market is cooling off a bit now that the initial honeymoon period is over.
We'll see where the prices settle over time.
LHD that one :-).It looks like the market is cooling off a bit now that the initial honeymoon period is over.
We'll see where the prices settle over time.
as for the 911Virgin GT4 it's £1k cheaper than the £90k cars which are delivery miles with buckets , leather etc !
price don't seem to be cooling off really imo, just the big drop from cars from last OCT once supply was more often but we are close to a year on and 500 extra cars now.
ChrisW. said:
I traded from an R to a GT4.
I bg to differ ... I enjoy trackdays and the GT4 is a massive step up over the R for this ...
I actually prefer it to the 996GT3RS that I owned ... it has insane levels of grip and balance ... and it carries a "get you out of gaol free card" in it's back pocket in a way that 911/GT3 simply can't ...
For example. On he kick plate at the Porsche Experience Centre in a Cayman I can caught the spin, created a second spin and caught that before reaching the end ( I think the optimum speed is around 32 mph ??).
In the GT3 I can't.
As a car to learn on and exploit in safety, it is very very special. I love it.
Genuinely a bit strange....I was at PEC in my 997 GT3 about this time last year and going over the kick plate at 30mph with everything off, the car was basically self correcting: I just had to let go of the steering wheel, watch it spin on its own, the catch it between my finger and thumb at max drift angle and wind it back. I'm not claiming skill, it just happened. Instructor didn't believe me until I went over the kick plate with hands off the wheel and showed him I bg to differ ... I enjoy trackdays and the GT4 is a massive step up over the R for this ...
I actually prefer it to the 996GT3RS that I owned ... it has insane levels of grip and balance ... and it carries a "get you out of gaol free card" in it's back pocket in a way that 911/GT3 simply can't ...
For example. On he kick plate at the Porsche Experience Centre in a Cayman I can caught the spin, created a second spin and caught that before reaching the end ( I think the optimum speed is around 32 mph ??).
In the GT3 I can't.
As a car to learn on and exploit in safety, it is very very special. I love it.
Porsche911R said:
do people really want CS ? I tend to find not, most of these flippers were speced as CS but it's seems to be a PH thing not a real world thing.
And again do people want PCCB's @ £5k a disk to replace I find not in the real world esp on the cheaper cars.
why do people want tacky coloured stitching?And again do people want PCCB's @ £5k a disk to replace I find not in the real world esp on the cheaper cars.
Mario149 said:
Genuinely a bit strange....I was at PEC in my 997 GT3 about this time last year and going over the kick plate at 30mph with everything off, the car was basically self correcting: I just had to let go of the steering wheel, watch it spin on its own, the catch it between my finger and thumb at max drift angle and wind it back. I'm not claiming skill, it just happened. Instructor didn't believe me until I went over the kick plate with hands off the wheel and showed him
I have to say the kick plate was a non-event in a Cayman - didn't try hands off the wheel, but completely trivial to catch. So the instructor suggested I tried to hold about a 45 degrees drift for the whole length of wet section after the kick plate. I couldn't manage that - easy enough to get the drift started but holding for more than a few yards defeated me. The instructor seemed to manage it pretty easily.Mario149 said:
Genuinely a bit strange....I was at PEC in my 997 GT3 about this time last year and going over the kick plate at 30mph with everything off, the car was basically self correcting: I just had to let go of the steering wheel, watch it spin on its own, the catch it between my finger and thumb at max drift angle and wind it back. I'm not claiming skill, it just happened. Instructor didn't believe me until I went over the kick plate with hands off the wheel and showed him
Kick plate is max effectiveness at 20mph . By 30mph its hardly catching the car , doesn't have time to react . left4dead5 said:
*Deposit Taken*GT3cs said:
Mario149 said:
Genuinely a bit strange....I was at PEC in my 997 GT3 about this time last year and going over the kick plate at 30mph with everything off, the car was basically self correcting: I just had to let go of the steering wheel, watch it spin on its own, the catch it between my finger and thumb at max drift angle and wind it back. I'm not claiming skill, it just happened. Instructor didn't believe me until I went over the kick plate with hands off the wheel and showed him
Kick plate is max effectiveness at 20mph . By 30mph its hardly catching the car , doesn't have time to react . No way if you're doing 20mph would the car self correct. Took quite a big input in my 997 GTS to get it back straight.
bcr5784 said:
I have to say the kick plate was a non-event in a Cayman - didn't try hands off the wheel, but completely trivial to catch. So the instructor suggested I tried to hold about a 45 degrees drift for the whole length of wet section after the kick plate. I couldn't manage that - easy enough to get the drift started but holding for more than a few yards defeated me. The instructor seemed to manage it pretty easily.
Was that with PSM on or off?Cheib said:
Yup...when I was there a few months ago we were told to target 20mph and were actually told it didn't operate at a slightly higher speed...maybe that was telling porkies.
No way if you're doing 20mph would the car self correct. Took quite a big input in my 997 GTS to get it back straight.
Agreed. I've had maybe 10-15 attempts at the kick plate over the years in a 6.2GT3 and 7.1RS, hardest speed is around 22mph, and you'll easily be at 70 degrees at that speed, traction control on or not, you have to be quick, it certainly will not self correct. No way if you're doing 20mph would the car self correct. Took quite a big input in my 997 GTS to get it back straight.
DJMC said:
Was that with PSM on or off?
I can't actually remember - but drifting must have been PSM off (you couldn't do it otherwise and there's a dreadful racket when PSM's in business). On the kick plate it really was so easy that I'm bound to think it was on - but I don't remember PSM having a fit.
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