12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing

[DiscoColin]

paralla said:

Did we ever work out if a harness could be fitted to a non CS car that has 918 style buckets? Not a link, an idea or opinion, anyone actually done it?

It would have to be an aftermarket installation - you couldn't do it OE as the harness mounts to the cage and the plates that the cage bolts to are not present unless the car was a CS to begin with. No idea if anyone has tried to weld in mounting hardware for the OE cage as a retrofit though - sorry. I've seen Cayman Ss with harnesses though, so aftermarket options are certainly out there if you aren't modification-hostile.

[mdianuk]

GT4RS said:

If you think good value is paying around 20k over list to someone who bought the car to flip!

You have a real beef about these overs, which is fair enough, but I can't see them going away any time soon, so if you want one, you'll either need to pay up the extra, or find something else to buy.

[av185]

Strange how some fail to grasp the cost versus value thing.

[Mario149]

GT3cs said:

Mario149 said:

Genuinely a bit strange....I was at PEC in my 997 GT3 about this time last year and going over the kick plate at 30mph with everything off, the car was basically self correcting: I just had to let go of the steering wheel, watch it spin on its own, the catch it between my finger and thumb at max drift angle and wind it back. I'm not claiming skill, it just happened. Instructor didn't believe me until I went over the kick plate with hands off the wheel and showed him

Kick plate is max effectiveness at 20mph . By 30mph its hardly catching the car , doesn't have time to react .

Have to say that wasn't my experience - we were plenty sideways and looking out the side windows to see forwards. I've also been over it in a 996 C4S before that at everything from 20-35 mph back on the inaugural YouDrive day they did with VBH years ago, C4S did not "self correct" like the GT3

[paralla]

mdianuk said:

PTS, look great, but target audience significantly reduced by special colours and despite what people say, they don't sell quickly or for a premium.

After having had a white 981 Cayman S and now a Voodoo blue GT4 I honestly think PTS is one of my favourite things about the GT4. I constantly get positive comments about the colour from strangers, I don't think I've ever put petrol in it without at least one person telling me at the pump they love the colour.

For about the same cost as CS I think it represents great value for money as far as Porsche options go.

I couldn't care less if I've narrowed my target market when it comes time to sell. It turns heads and makes it feel special every single time I drive it. I had to fight for the buckets and I had to fight for PTS on my order and I'd do it again even with the delays both caused.

[Fokker]

paralla said:

After having had a white 981 Cayman S and now a Voodoo blue GT4 I honestly think PTS is one of my favourite things about the GT4. I constantly get positive comments about the colour from strangers, I don't think I've ever put petrol in it without at least one person telling me at the pump they love the colour.

For about the same cost as CS I think it represents great value for money as far as Porsche options go.

I couldn't care less if I've narrowed my target market when it comes time to sell. It turns heads and makes it feel special every single time I drive it. I had to fight for the buckets and I had to fight for PTS on my order and I'd do it again even with the delays both caused.

What do you mean, 'When it comes time to sell' ? It can't feel that special, you're selling it!

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

[paralla]

Fokker said:

What do you mean, 'When it comes time to sell' ? It can't feel that special, you're selling it!

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

Mine does feel special enough that I'm keeping it thanks. Mexico Blue is lovely but mine is Voodoo Blue.

[hondansx]

Porsche churn out so many GT variants now that having a Mexico Blue or Riviera car is no longer like owning a unicorn; in fact i'm actually a little tired of how unoriginal people have become in speccing PTS cars. If i'm not alone, there's a reason for the secondhand premium shrinking somewhat.

[Porsche911R]

hondansx said:

Porsche churn out so many GT variants now that having a Mexico Blue or Riviera car is no longer like owning a unicorn; in fact i'm actually a little tired of how unoriginal people have become in speccing PTS cars. If i'm not alone, there's a reason for the secondhand premium shrinking somewhat.

its because you see normal cars with PTS bling colours so Riviera and lava on normal base model cars ruins it a bit.

I went to buy a 997 GTS in Riviera and when I tuned up it just looked rank, very over rated colour.

VooDoo on a GT4 looks stunning though, the darker solid colours work well on the GT4 and the launch colour is a show stopper in yellow.

[v8ksn]

If I was going to spec PTS it would be a colour that nobody else has. Maybe even a colour from a different manufacturer. Surely thats the point of going Paint To Sample?

Saw a colour on a Peugeot 308 the other day that would look fantastic on a GT Porsche. Like a dark navy mixed with purple.

The is a sky-blueish colour on a Toyota Auris thats also in with a shout too.

Having the option of PTS and then going for a colour that others have seems a bit silly in my book......but then again I am not sure you CAN spec a colour from another manufacturer as I have never bought a new Porsche.

[isaldiri]

Surely the point of pts is to get the colour you want rather than it specifically being rare. Given the standard or even option colours are quite limited, getting pts for a specific colour you like is as good a reason as any. Getting it purely for rarity is pretty loony imo.

[paralla]

v8ksn said:

If I was going to spec PTS it would be a colour that nobody else has. Maybe even a colour from a different manufacturer. Surely thats the point of going Paint To Sample?

Saw a colour on a Peugeot 308 the other day that would look fantastic on a GT Porsche. Like a dark navy mixed with purple.

The is a sky-blueish colour on a Toyota Auris thats also in with a shout too.

Having the option of PTS and then going for a colour that others have seems a bit silly in my book......but then again I am not sure you CAN spec a colour from another manufacturer as I have never bought a new Porsche.

You can't. There's an approved list of colours to choose from. If you are the Sultan of Brunei you can probably order off the menu but you and I can't.

[GT4RS]

[quote=v8ksn]If I was going to spec PTS it would be a colour that nobody else has. Maybe even a colour from a different manufacturer. Surely thats the point of going Paint To Sample?

I thought the same, when ordering my new car last Saturday I had quick conversation with my local OPC about PTS

He went on to explain there are 3 different scales to Porsches PTS.

Standard PTS colours

Historic colours

Paint to clients supplied sample

I was not aware of this until he told me, I'm also guessing they all have a different price bracket.

[mdianuk]

paralla said:

I couldn't care less if I've narrowed my target market when it comes time to sell. It turns heads and makes it feel special every single time I drive it. I had to fight for the buckets and I had to fight for PTS on my order and I'd do it again even with the delays both caused.

I don't disagree with you, I was pointing out to those wondering why PTS doesn't sell as quickly as you'd think, is because the market is limited by unique colours. If I had had the option of PTS when ordering, I would have taken it, and similarly wouldn't have cared about re-sale value.

[GT4RS]

mdianuk said:

paralla said:

I couldn't care less if I've narrowed my target market when it comes time to sell. It turns heads and makes it feel special every single time I drive it. I had to fight for the buckets and I had to fight for PTS on my order and I'd do it again even with the delays both caused.

I don't disagree with you, I was pointing out to those wondering why PTS doesn't sell as quickly as you'd think, is because the market is limited by unique colours. If I had had the option of PTS when ordering, I would have taken it, and similarly wouldn't have cared about re-sale value.

Paralla it sounds to me that you bought the car to enjoy and not flip straight away.

I thought the whole reason you would order a PTS car is it allows you to personalise your car to your preferred taste.

[mdianuk]

GT4RS said:

I thought the whole reason you would order a PTS car is it allows you to personalise your car to your preferred taste.

You'd think that, but I guess some ordered PTS thinking it would help sell the car immediately, per the Viper Green example which started off at OPC Chester with delivery miles, then got moved, and think is now for sale at Redline!

[P155flaps]

GT4RS said:

SidewaysSi said:

GT4RS said:

This one looks lovely, could you not spec the harnesses to be in yellow?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

Best one for sale if you ask me it just a shame about the crazy overs asking price.

I think that is very well priced in the current market TBH.

If you think good value is paying around 20k over list to someone who bought the car to flip!

It's mine as soon as the ad systems stops crashing will be removed (away on business at the mo with just an iPhone and it doesn't seem to like my iPhone).

I was reluctant to list but after revisiting finances initially thought I had to sale. But after moving some other assets about not forced to now so think going to keep a bit longer.

I had an 2 firms offers of £94 and £95k from dealers (wanting to collect within a few days) with clients after cars and a few private people wanting to come and look when I am back home.. So car would have hung about for precisely 4 days from placing ad for min £95k possibly more.

Edited by P155flaps on Thursday 8th September 07:28

[P155flaps]

mdianuk said:

You'd think that, but I guess some ordered PTS thinking it would help sell the car immediately, per the Viper Green example which started off at OPC Chester with delivery miles, then got moved, and think is now for sale at Redline!

Turns out the 2 firm dealer offers on my Mexico and private people really keen to come see wanted a PTS blue over a 'standard' colour

So perhaps it's more the PTS choice that's the issue on that car. Or colour with interior colour etc.

[P155flaps]

GT4RS]8ksn said:

If I was going to spec PTS it would be a colour that nobody else has. Maybe even a colour from a different manufacturer. Surely thats the point of going Paint To Sample?

I thought the same, when ordering my new car last Saturday I had quick conversation with my local OPC about PTS

He went on to explain there are 3 different scales to Porsches PTS.

Standard PTS colours

Historic colours

Paint to clients supplied sample

I was not aware of this until he told me, I'm also guessing they all have a different price bracket.

I asked about a non standard, non approved colour and if it's not on the 'approved list' there is a 4-6 months process for you to send the colour to Porsche and they do a feasibility study (mix and spray some samples etc).

So on the GT4 given build slot I was told having a non approved colour no go but if I couldn't have that Mexico was my number 1 (as I like it balls to how many have it, if it's on a standard car etc).

I was told I could chose any colour from the approved list which included historic / other PTS that had already been applied / okd for that variant.

[GT4RS]

P155flaps said:

I asked about a non standard, non approved colour and if it's not on the 'approved list' there is a 4-6 months process for you to send the colour to Porsche and they do a feasibility study (mix and spray some samples etc).

So on the GT4 given build slot I was told having a non approved colour no go but if I couldn't have that Mexico was my number 1 (as I like it balls to how many have it, if it's on a standard car etc).

I was told I could chose any colour from the approved list which included historic / other PTS that had already been applied / okd for that variant.

My local opc also mentioned that there was a very long lead time for non approved paint colours. When you speced up your gt4 did they offer you the option to have yellow harnesses to match the yellow stitching?

Out of interest did you spec your car for future value and resale or did you build it to the spec you actually wanted with the plan of not selling straight after your purchase?