12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing
Discussion
Porsche911R said:
Yes my does that's the point of blue tooth :-)
I think 99.9% of people will want to take a call without having to pull over stop and get the phone out.
IMO and it is only that blue tooth should be legal requiment and standard in any car, it's safer than abs !
I see 20+ people a day on phones in car/vans across white lines etc. It's quite shocking and all due to the lack of Bluetooth.
As people Will use a phone in a car while moving !
As per usual your opinion is right of course and I am the 1 in 1000. Note to self I must go out immediately and get it retrofitted or buy a better quality after market for my own and others safety.I think 99.9% of people will want to take a call without having to pull over stop and get the phone out.
IMO and it is only that blue tooth should be legal requiment and standard in any car, it's safer than abs !
I see 20+ people a day on phones in car/vans across white lines etc. It's quite shocking and all due to the lack of Bluetooth.
As people Will use a phone in a car while moving !
Fokker said:
EricE said:
make that 95
95 what?for comparison there are 27 981 GTS, 15 987 Spyder and 14 Cayman R for sale on the same site.
Edited by EricE on Saturday 10th September 11:10
EricE said:
GT4s for sale on mobile.de. 97 as of right now.
for comparison there are 27 981 GTS, 15 987 Spyder and 14 Cayman R for sale on the same site.
Ah right I see, I though you meant in the UK!for comparison there are 27 981 GTS, 15 987 Spyder and 14 Cayman R for sale on the same site.
Edited by EricE on Saturday 10th September 11:10
Fokker said:
Just reduced mine by £5000 at Porsche Bolton if someone would like a very well spec'd GT4 Club Sport.
Now £89991
Strange how you have had to reduce yours to 89k via an opc and pissflaps can sell his car 4 times over for 97k privately! Now £89991
Yours is a nice spec to, sensible list of extras which in my opinion makes the car very usable day to day of needed.
What are changing it for Fokker?
Cheib said:
The bright PTS colours just don't work on "normal" cars IMHO. On say a 991 GTS I think you need a ducktail personally for the car to carry it off. Doesn't have to be a spoiler though 964 RS's carry it because of the stance/wheel combo.
If you are lucky enough to be able to order a GT car If you can order PTS I don't know why you wouldn't!
There a 991 Turbo Cab near where I live in Lava....doesn't work at all IMHO.
I was the first one to order Voodoo on GT car in this country. Back then when I got my GT3 only an RS 4.0 in the US had been produced in the colour and that about it. None had been ordered nor photographed in the colour so had to guess and go with my Instinct. As you point out I thought it would work on a GT car but doesn't really on a vanilla model. Not sure why but that's the way it is. If you are lucky enough to be able to order a GT car If you can order PTS I don't know why you wouldn't!
There a 991 Turbo Cab near where I live in Lava....doesn't work at all IMHO.
Suffice to say when I sold it I sold it at a sensible price but it was gone within 12hrs of JZM putting it online. You do have to find the right buyer, but for a GT car that's usually easier than for other cars. And today I still think Voodoo is the best colour of them all :-) but would struggle to re-order it as Everyman and their dog now specc'ing it after mine was such a big hit :-)
P.s. It appears now the car for sale with Solihull OPC. If you are looking at it I can tell you she was treated like a princess by me in her first 5k miles. Including proper run-in and 1k miles service. Just FWIW she still
rosino said:
I was the first one to order Voodoo on GT car in this country. Back then when I got my GT3 only an RS 4.0 in the US had been produced in the colour and that about it. None had been ordered nor photographed in the colour so had to guess and go with my Instinct. As you point out I thought it would work on a GT car but doesn't really on a vanilla model. Not sure why but that's the way it is.
Suffice to say when I sold it I sold it at a sensible price but it was gone within 12hrs of JZM putting it online. You do have to find the right buyer, but for a GT car that's usually easier than for other cars. And today I still think Voodoo is the best colour of them all :-) but would struggle to re-order it as Everyman and their dog now specc'ing it after mine was such a big hit :-)
P.s. It appears now the car for sale with Solihull OPC. If you are looking at it I can tell you she was treated like a princess by me in her first 5k miles. Including proper run-in and 1k miles service. Just FWIW she still
That' 4.0 in the US was the exact reason I was going to order 918 in Voodoo. Went to the factory to do it, but they showed me Arrow Blue, which is very similar but was an historic Porsche colour, so went with that. Suffice to say when I sold it I sold it at a sensible price but it was gone within 12hrs of JZM putting it online. You do have to find the right buyer, but for a GT car that's usually easier than for other cars. And today I still think Voodoo is the best colour of them all :-) but would struggle to re-order it as Everyman and their dog now specc'ing it after mine was such a big hit :-)
P.s. It appears now the car for sale with Solihull OPC. If you are looking at it I can tell you she was treated like a princess by me in her first 5k miles. Including proper run-in and 1k miles service. Just FWIW she still
LambShank said:
Have you fitted it to your Spyder?
Nope, but I think the Spyder is a concept on its own, I have 4 cars, 3 with blue tooth so the odd day I do take the Spyer out I don't want to be called, it's just me and the car at 1250kgs :-) no radio, no AC as light as it can be. You would not hear a phone in a spyder anyway it's very noisy.
The GT4 is a very usable every day sports car so it's good to take a call in it and have the mod cons if one is spending £100k on a usable car.
I don't really see a GT4 as a Sunday only car it's not special or good enough for that once a month drive for me.
Where the 987.2 Spyder is far more involving by a country mile. Only car I would swap that for is an Elise cup car. Or the harder light weight specials, caterham atom style etc. Phones don't really come into any of these sorts of cars.
shaunRS said:
Interesting comparisons to GT4. I know 987.2 Spyder is good, but not that good!!
Elise Cup, nah.. engine lets it's down.
had a 987 spyder for 4 years its a good car but imo the gt4 is better and its the one I still have!Elise Cup, nah.. engine lets it's down.
both have there strengths and weaknesses and mr D does have the perfect garage with both but I would take the gt4 most times!
I have said this before if the spyder/cr had the 3.8 engine then I would have never gone 981!
shaunRS said:
Interesting comparisons to GT4. I know 987.2 Spyder is good, but not that good!!
Elise Cup, nah.. engine lets it's down.
It is that good I have had 65 cars inc gt3 and gt4 , CSL, lotus x2 , nobles etc etc the spyder is the only one I have kept long term. Elise Cup, nah.. engine lets it's down.
As have many owners.
The gt4 may be better in every way as owners love to point out but it lacks that vital stat, " enjoyment" which the spyder has hence it wins no question.
My R is even more enjoyable to drive then the GT4 , better is not always better.
depends what you want I guess. GT4 is faster, better chassis, etc etc but that means nothing if it's less fun to pilot over all.
I am lucky to own the 3 Porsche best mid engine cars of late so get to drive 3 great cars back to back daily.
Gt4 is best on track but again if a track Porsche you are after a GT3 is better choice.
The 3.8 is a let down big style, it's been detuned to feel quite dull, add in the longer gearing and while it feels a faster car it's quite lifeless unit in its current form.
Easily tuned though but people love oem to death so 98% will stay detuned oem spec.
Akajak said:
harsh, can't say I agree with you on that, I prefer it to the 3.4 but that's just my view
What is your view on it then ?, it runs out of puff at 6.5k so no red line excitement, the power just drops away rather than build. and the longer gears kill any thrill.The 3.4 is a sweet lump matched very well to the 987.2 thinner tyres and revs to red line, you have to work it and that makes it the better drive.
Seems people love torque and short shifting ! Because that's the only way to get the best from the GT4 unit.
As I say I feel very short changed on the lack lustre 3.8 detuned lump in a GT car when it should have been the x51 higer reving unit.
So while you may disagree I would love to hear why please.
Edited by Porsche911R on Sunday 11th September 11:59
Porsche911R said:
Akajak said:
harsh, can't say I agree with you on that, I prefer it to the 3.4 but that's just my view
What is your view on it then ?, it runs out of puff at 6.5k so no red line excitement, the power just drops away rather than build. and the longer gears kill any thrill.The 3.4 is a sweet lump matched very well to the 987.2 thinner tyres and revs to red line, you have to work it and that makes it the better drive.
Seems people love torque and short shifting ! Because that's the only way to get the best from the GT4 unit.
As I say I feel very short changed on the lack lustre 3.8 detuned lump in a GT car when it should have been the x51 higer reving unit.
So while you may disagree I would love to hear why please.
Edited by Porsche911R on Sunday 11th September 11:59
MDL111 said:
I have not driven a GT4, but given it is a standard mass market engine, I am not totally surprised you feel that way. The standard Porsche engines are good at what they are and certainly better than what other mass market manufacturers put in their cars, but not really a match for "special" engines (obviously there is the small matter of price point to consider).
True but the 3.4 being championed by the above post is hardly a special engine either and is the very definition of a standard mass market engine. I don't remember the cayman r feeling any more special revving up to the rev limit than the gt4. Both feel quite flat after 6-6.5k imo.isaldiri said:
MDL111 said:
I have not driven a GT4, but given it is a standard mass market engine, I am not totally surprised you feel that way. The standard Porsche engines are good at what they are and certainly better than what other mass market manufacturers put in their cars, but not really a match for "special" engines (obviously there is the small matter of price point to consider).
True but the 3.4 being championed by the above post is hardly a special engine either and is the very definition of a standard mass market engine. I don't remember the cayman r feeling any more special revving up to the rev limit than the gt4. Both feel quite flat after 6-6.5k imo.Gassing Station | Boxster/Cayman | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff