12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing

[Cheib]

GT4RS said:

R1nur said:

ags11 said:

Would anyone take list for their GT4 from an opc if they were guaranteed a Gt3??

Yes.

I think the real question you will need to be answering would some take below list for there gt4 to get a new gt3 gen 2 build slot?

Or perhaps would an OPC want to take an GT4 into stock at the moment!

[isaldiri]

R1nur said:

ags11 said:

Would anyone take list for their GT4 from an opc if they were guaranteed a Gt3??

Yes.

It depends on the mileage surely? If the .2 gt3 is announced at Geneva next year, deliveries won't be until sep at the earliest probably for rhd uk cars and some gt4s could easily be 2 years and possibly nudging 10k by the time they are handed in for the gt3. I personally found the gt4 pretty mileage sensitive sell (and it seems the PHer with similar mileage selling his car at the OPC is finding something similar) so I'd snap the OPC's hand off if they were offering list in certain cases assuming people have driven their gt4s very much......

[-Michael-]

Twinfan said:

This is what I have?

Make	Model	2016 Q1	2015 Q4
Porcshe	Cayman GT4	442	211

[n17ves]

I make it 518 (14 of which are SORN) up to the end of June '16 going by Howmanyleft.co.uk.

[Twinfan]

-Michael- said:

This is what I have?

Make	Model	2016 Q1	2015 Q4
Porcshe	Cayman GT4	442	211

From the VEH0160.ods DVLA registrations file found here: https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-set...

Cayman GT4
2016 registrations for the UK: 317
2015 registrations for the UK: 225

So 542 total up to the end of June 2016, but there are more to come as cars were still being delivered in July/August.

[Porsche911R]

The rub for me it they look so much better than GT3's imo, I still love it as a thing to own and have to stand back and just look at mine after it been cleaned.

[-Michael-]

Twinfan said:

From the VEH0160.ods DVLA registrations file found here: https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-set...

Cayman GT4
2016 registrations for the UK: 317
2015 registrations for the UK: 225

So 542 total up to the end of June 2016, but there are more to come as cars were still being delivered in July/August.

I see now, I was reading from VEH0120

[GT4RS]

542 plus another two months dealer supply on top, should only be another 60 to come max.

[ags11]

I did mean if they were to take the car now. I can't see them dropping out of the 70s anytime soon. This time of year the lull will start.
I think the gen2 will be na, but there's still no guarantee of it.
I happen to think there'll be plenty of gt3s come the end of it's production run.

[GT4RS]

ags11 said:

I did mean if they were to take the car now. I can't see them dropping out of the 70s anytime soon. This time of year the lull will start.
I think the gen2 will be na, but there's still no guarantee of it.
I happen to think there'll be plenty of gt3s come the end of it's production run.

I'm not sure I think they may follow suit with the rest of the 911 range and go turbo. I also think they will have a slightly different approach to the supply of these GT cars.

[av185]

Most seem to think the next Spyder will be turbo......also now unsure whether the 718 GT4 will be n.a. although theres quite a wait to find out before the next model arrives.

[Twinfan]

Spyder is non-GT, so it'll be a turbo in my opinion.

GT4? Not sure, but I'm swaying towards it being a turbo along with all 718s.

[Fokker]

GT4RS said:

Cayman Gts?

No 911 GTS....

[GT4RS]

Twinfan said:

Spyder is non-GT, so it'll be a turbo in my opinion.

GT4? Not sure, but I'm swaying towards it being a turbo along with all 718s.

It would make sense as I would imagine Porsche have invested massively on the development of there new turbo engines.

[Twinfan]

GT4RS said:

It would make sense as I would imagine Porsche have invested massively on the development of there new turbo engines.

Exactly. They seem to want to create 718 as a 'brand' like 911, so keeping everything 4 pot turbo makes sense, and ensures everything is distanced from the 6 cyclinder 911 for marketing purposes.

I've said it before, but I think the 981 GT4 only got approval as it was a final "hurrah" for the 6 cylinder Caysters. I don't think we'll see a flat six in the next GT4, even if it is a GT product and AP has hinted it will stay NA. It just doesn't fit the Porsche range plan.

[Fokker]

Shiverman said:

I think it might pay you to whip it out of your OPC and look for a PX against your next car with another dealer. It is amazing once the dealer owns the car how much quicker it sells. Mine sold less than a week after my px and it was 'high' mileage and at a high selling price. My guess is the OPC already had someone lined up but from my POV everyone was a winner - they have shifted 2 cars and I'm in the car I want at the cost of change I was after without waiting for mine to sell before I could buy.
Good condition/spec 991GTS are a little rare atm, but they are there. Have you looked at the carmine red at Tewksbury or the white one at Reading? Both pretty good specs, condition Unknown. There's also a great spec red one for sale privately at a nice price but then you still have the problem of selling your car.

I'm happy giving it to my OPC as it helps with the relationship and Dan at Bolton has been really good. He's also a nice guy so he looks after me and I look after him.
Now we've dropped the price there has been quite a bit of interest. He has someone looking at it today in fact.

At £89991 for a really well spec'd GT4, I think it'll go quite quick now and in the flesh, the red looks really good.

Your radar is spot on with the red one at Tewksbury and white at Reading. I really dont like white cars (although spec on that is good) and the Carmine is common in terms of a GTS colour. The locator has only White and red cars apart from the poorly spec'd black car at Leeds. As we move into Winter now, prices will soften slightly and we'll see them back into the 80's for lower end specs. All I wants is GTS pack and a stereo upgrade! but with low miles...

[anonymous-user]

Twinfan said:

Exactly. They seem to want to create 718 as a 'brand' like 911, so keeping everything 4 pot turbo makes sense, and ensures everything is distanced from the 6 cyclinder 911 for marketing purposes.

I've said it before, but I think the 981 GT4 only got approval as it was a final "hurrah" for the 6 cylinder Caysters. I don't think we'll see a flat six in the next GT4, even if it is a GT product and AP has hinted it will stay NA. It just doesn't fit the Porsche range plan.

I think you're right, I can't see a flat six fitting the line up but what would create the most desire for a GT product than putting in the one thing that all the journalists said was wrong with the 718. It won't impact group emissions if produced in limited numbers.

When I drove the 718 at Silverstone, not a single car had PSE which you could say is an emphatic stance from Porsche. EU regulations will soon see the removal of user deactivated traction control so I think the engine won't be the last thing we'll be complaining about.

[Twinfan]

Mutema said:

I think you're right, I can't see a flat six fitting the line up but what would create the most desire for a GT product than putting in the one thing that all the journalists said was wrong with the 718. It won't impact group emissions if produced in limited numbers.

Agreed, but it's not going to be about desire or emissions. It's all about product placement in the Porsche range. 911 GT department cars are the halo product and will continue to be so above all else. Now that everything else is turbo'd it doesn't make sense to put an NA engine in mid-priced car. I think it'll be like this:

GT4 - 718 based, four pot turbo, the budget GT option

GT3 - 911 based, RWD, flat six NA for as long as Porsche can get away with it, the old-skool GT option
GT3RS/911R etc - as the GT3 but with extra 'special' bits

GT2 - 911 based, flat six turbo, 4WD, the outright performance GT option
GT2RS - as the GT2 but with extra 'special' bits, homologation special for the 911 RSR?

[Andrew911]

Mutema said:

Twinfan said:

Exactly. They seem to want to create 718 as a 'brand' like 911, so keeping everything 4 pot turbo makes sense, and ensures everything is distanced from the 6 cyclinder 911 for marketing purposes.

I've said it before, but I think the 981 GT4 only got approval as it was a final "hurrah" for the 6 cylinder Caysters. I don't think we'll see a flat six in the next GT4, even if it is a GT product and AP has hinted it will stay NA. It just doesn't fit the Porsche range plan.

I think you're right, I can't see a flat six fitting the line up but what would create the most desire for a GT product than putting in the one thing that all the journalists said was wrong with the 718. It won't impact group emissions if produced in limited numbers.

When I drove the 718 at Silverstone, not a single car had PSE which you could say is an emphatic stance from Porsche. EU regulations will soon see the removal of user deactivated traction control so I think the engine won't be the last thing we'll be complaining about.

I have put on here previously that Porsche head of GT Andreas Preuninger has been quoted as saying or at least hinting that the next iteration of the GT4 will stick with a NA flat six. Also saying that it is very unlikely they will build a GT4RS. Given that one could conclude they will also keep the Spyder 'special' as a NA engine. Full article in Auto Express

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/porsche/cayman/94636/...

[GT4RS]

GT4RS said:

Porsche911R said:

GT4RS said:

Piston heads currently have 41 gt4 caymans for sale ?? .

more like 35 ish, there are a few wanted adverts and a lot of sold adds making up your number.

I spotted one wanted add which has been up for a while, I removed this from my 41 total.

Opc network has 8 which are included in the 41, only had a quick scan so I assume these are the same cars not additional to the Porsche uk site.

Only did a quick scan so happy to be corrected.

Opc network have increased from 8 to 13 in a matter of days!