12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing
Discussion
isaldiri said:
I don't believe the 6RS was sold in the US or indeed north America. Would assume that's the reason there were more UK cars (this assumes of course that the standard 6gt3 was still sold there as I don't remember if it was).
Ah I see, too hardcore for our American friends - makes sense 
RSVP911 said:
isaldiri said:
I don't believe the 6RS was sold in the US or indeed north America. Would assume that's the reason there were more UK cars (this assumes of course that the standard 6gt3 was still sold there as I don't remember if it was).
Ah I see, too hardcore for our American friends - makes sense Dont think they got the RS due to the cage
Link to a GT4 owner selling up and moving to a 996 GT3
http://rennlist.com/forums/996-gt2-gt3-forum/95845...
Is this now a trend ;-)
Edited by lemmingjames on Wednesday 19th October 09:37
lemmingjames said:
They got the 6.2 GT3 but not the 6.1
Dont think they got the RS due to the cage
Link to a GT4 owner selling up and moving to a 996 GT3
http://rennlist.com/forums/996-gt2-gt3-forum/95845...
Is this now a trend ;-)
I guess the overs pays for a £15k refresh !Dont think they got the RS due to the cage
Link to a GT4 owner selling up and moving to a 996 GT3
http://rennlist.com/forums/996-gt2-gt3-forum/95845...
Is this now a trend ;-)
Edited by lemmingjames on Wednesday 19th October 09:37
Every little helps, id imagine he'll be able to get remote reservoir suspension with the change
On a side note - removed the front bumper the other day to install some new horns, ended up cleaning out the rad section - household dustpan worth of crap accumulated between all 3 rads and no corrosion in sight - not bad for 6 years and driven in all weathers - wanna see the photo evidence :P
On a side note - removed the front bumper the other day to install some new horns, ended up cleaning out the rad section - household dustpan worth of crap accumulated between all 3 rads and no corrosion in sight - not bad for 6 years and driven in all weathers - wanna see the photo evidence :P
Edited by lemmingjames on Wednesday 19th October 16:23
RSVP911 said:
isaldiri said:
I don't believe the 6RS was sold in the US or indeed north America. Would assume that's the reason there were more UK cars (this assumes of course that the standard 6gt3 was still sold there as I don't remember if it was).
Ah I see, too hardcore for our American friends - makes sense 
DiscoColin said:
Sort of. IIRC they couldn't have the cage, bucket seats or plastic rear windows so there was not a lot of point selling the car there for the single mass flywheel, carbon bonnet and very slightly different engine. The 996 RS didn't go to a lot of other places that now soak up allocation either and didn't really have "status symbol" value at the time that it does now. The other thing was of course that there was no such thing as a story about a dealer turning someone away for them - cars were sold where they were ordered. Notice the arbitrary nature of the production count
That sounds good doesn't it - cars were made / sold as they were ordered - simpler times Inverted said:
500 plus of these in the uk and most still 15-20k over list. Madness
Imo even if there were say 1500 GT4s the prices wouldn't be much different. Car underpriced when new, end of.981 Spyder at c200 UK examples 60% fewer than the GT4 and yet percentage wise relative to otr new cost the premiums are similar although more of a niche car.
Only when production numbers are severely restricted to e.g 28 4.0 997 RS or 911 R (although more to come) influence of the true scale premium madness.
av185 said:
Imo even if there were say 1500 GT4s the prices wouldn't be much different. Car underpriced when new, end of.
981 Spyder at c200 UK examples 60% fewer than the GT4 and yet percentage wise relative to otr new cost the premiums are similar although more of a niche car.
Only when production numbers are severely restricted to e.g 28 4.0 997 RS or 911 R (although more to come) influence of the true scale premium madness.
Are they more 911R to come as I woudl prefer one to a GT3 manual......981 Spyder at c200 UK examples 60% fewer than the GT4 and yet percentage wise relative to otr new cost the premiums are similar although more of a niche car.
Only when production numbers are severely restricted to e.g 28 4.0 997 RS or 911 R (although more to come) influence of the true scale premium madness.
Fish said:
av185 said:
Imo even if there were say 1500 GT4s the prices wouldn't be much different. Car underpriced when new, end of.
981 Spyder at c200 UK examples 60% fewer than the GT4 and yet percentage wise relative to otr new cost the premiums are similar although more of a niche car.
Only when production numbers are severely restricted to e.g 28 4.0 997 RS or 911 R (although more to come) influence of the true scale premium madness.
Are they more 911R to come as I woudl prefer one to a GT3 manual......981 Spyder at c200 UK examples 60% fewer than the GT4 and yet percentage wise relative to otr new cost the premiums are similar although more of a niche car.
Only when production numbers are severely restricted to e.g 28 4.0 997 RS or 911 R (although more to come) influence of the true scale premium madness.
av185 said:
Imo even if there were say 1500 GT4s the prices wouldn't be much different. Car underpriced when new, end of.
Really? What were the cost of the upgrades to Porsche? Only has extra value because of rarity - and the fact that there is a gap in the market that the GT4 fills. All supply and demand (nothing new here).bcr5784 said:
av185 said:
Imo even if there were say 1500 GT4s the prices wouldn't be much different. Car underpriced when new, end of.
Really? Only has extra value because of rarity Also what is rarity? The 458 is hardly 'rare' with c1200 UK examples....ditto the 997 GTS numbers and look at the 991 GTS.....all these are selling around new 'list' price despite the F and 997 being up to 6 years old!
bcr5784 said:
Given a 718S with the same wheel/tyres would be as quick (quicker?) round the ring ... It's about kudos rather than "ability" that is the issue.
Without attaching too much weight to the GT4s praises by many respected Journos together with the Ecoty win, beating the GT3 RS and Mclaren, are you saying the GT4 is without outstanding ability in contradiction to its numerous road tests etc?Yes, there are quicker cars, but as a complete package especially as a road car it takes some beating especially at the money.
Porsche911R said:
PTV cuts in on the 981 Spyders eating rear disks, even if you turn PSM off, so while you can fit a harder pad you will wear rear disks even faster !
GT4 does not cut in as much with the toys turned off.
again one is made for the track one is not, you can track the 981 Spyder but expect big running costs if pushed hard.
Track hacks always end up with >-2.5 and greater camber in the end, again a no can do on the Spyder.
They are what the are, you buy the right car for the job, both great items.
GT4 does not cut in as much with the toys turned off.
again one is made for the track one is not, you can track the 981 Spyder but expect big running costs if pushed hard.
Track hacks always end up with >-2.5 and greater camber in the end, again a no can do on the Spyder.
They are what the are, you buy the right car for the job, both great items.
BubblesNW said:
My experience is numerous passenger rides and discussions with a Spyder driven 'enthusiastically' on track by a guy called James at Oulton who had unacceptable wear rates and fade. Compared with my GT4 the differences were night and day after a few laps, the Spyder struggled to stop, the GT4 didn't.
Yep, standard brakes are not ideal and PTV is an additional wear issue although I'm not sure the thresholds are any different to the GT4. I still think the Spyder is the faster car on track due to centre of gravity and power to weight ratio despite inferior rubber. (But I am rather, or indeed very, biased)
I will be at Silverstone on 1st Nov if you chaps and any others (ChrisW) fancy coming
av185 said:
Without attaching too much weight to the GT4s praises by many respected Journos together with the Ecoty win, beating the GT3 RS and Mclaren, are you saying the GT4 is without outstanding ability in contradiction to its numerous road tests etc?
Yes, there are quicker cars, but as a complete package especially as a road car it takes some beating especially at the money.
Not at all, but lets be realistic, as a road car (as opposed to a track day weapon) most people's needs would be better served by a 981S or GTS - other than the not inconsiderable matter of depreciation. And were production of the GT4 unlimited, most would choose a more mainstream model, and a GT4 would depreciate just like other models in the range. Yes, there are quicker cars, but as a complete package especially as a road car it takes some beating especially at the money.
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