12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing
Discussion
boxsey said:
It would be a stretch to describe myself as a prospective buyer because I usually buy my next Porsche when it is 4 or 5 years old. I bought my current Cayman R at that age and a GT4 is on my radar as its replacement in about 3 years time. At 4+ years old the CR was only about £10K under original list. If the GT4 followed the same pattern then I would be tempted by the change. However, a lot can happen in 3 years so I'm not banking on it. However, I do find this discussion of the current and changing values interesting even though it's not that relevant to my own plans.
I think I'm in a similar boat, insofar as I'd hope they'll come down in price over the next year or so, but equally I wouldn't be massively distraught if they didn't - I just wouldn't buy one. My reason for buying is purely driving fun, so making a profit is an irrelevance. If I could do a straight swap for my DBS, I might consider it.I'm a very happy owner of a high spec GT Silver GT4 (buckets,ceramics,carbon etc) in which I've enjoyed 1900 miles to date with many more to come but I just checked the OPC website having read the last few pages of this thread...26 cars for sale...wtf!!Personally I cannot see this being a premium car for long.In fact I'm surprised it's still trading overs.Supply and demand normally equalises any market,and there's surely a bit of oversupply here regardless of spec,just imo...
gunner said:
I'm a very happy owner of a high spec GT Silver GT4 (buckets,ceramics,carbon etc) in which I've enjoyed 1900 miles to date with many more to come but I just checked the OPC website having read the last few pages of this thread...26 cars for sale...wtf!!Personally I cannot see this being a premium car for long.In fact I'm surprised it's still trading overs.Supply and demand normally equalises any market,and there's surely a bit of oversupply here regardless of spec,just imo...
Not necessarily though. the 991 gt3 (amazingly enough) continues to maintain it's overs a few years after deliveries started despite plenty being for sale and a dodgy engine to boot....Porsche911R said:
GT4RS said:
Just because a car has bucket seats and a splash of carbon does not make it worth 9k more. Remember these are now clased as used cars and extras do not carry the seem premium which they do when buying new.
If it was good value it wouldn't of been for sale for best part of a month.
spec and miles these days does which I am happy about as I tend to buy high spec cars and pay top money 2nd hand for them.If it was good value it wouldn't of been for sale for best part of a month.
Not long paid £45k for my R when you can buy one at £38k.
the cars are so new the prices are based on list + spec + overs with the final adjustemt in price being the miles.
Gone are the days when the dealers says you car is worth £65k and these days the OPC's seem to ask does it have 918 seats instead.
As a seller I would base my GT4 £2.8k above a chairs car and let the buyers chooses which he wants !
I often say when people view my cars but want it to be the cheapest, "please go and buy that one then, why look at mine ?" I have always sold at the money for that spec level, in the end spec rules. people after the lowest priced cars will have to have a car with no spec/high miles or get lucky, there are not that many GT4's for sale really when you look at it. esp when you go down to what colour you want.
same with Carbon I would price my car £1k above a non carbon car and again the buyers chooses which he wants, one with out carbon at £85k or one with at £86k. the key is making the car you are selling the cheapest at that spec level so the buyer has nowhere to go, he buys yours or buys one with less spec, it gets to be that simple.
Top 555 have been selling GT4 like hot cakes at £95k+ they are upto about 9 or 10 cars now, the last one was listed at £107k and sold in one day.
they only take on high spec cars though.
991 GT3 market has been spec driven for 2 years now regarding prices. it will take a lot longer to settle down and be the normal 2nd hand all cars have the same price thing if ever on these models.
non bucket Cayman R and 997 GT3 are like lemons atm sitting at dealers 6 or 7 months plus while dealers try to get bucket seat money for them !
Edited by Porsche911R on Tuesday 25th October 09:24
I also disagree with your comment regards to the car which apparently sold for 107k recently. Dealers play that trick all the time. It was probably returned to its owner due to there unrealistic asking price!
I'm sure here are many waiting on the side lines waiting to jump into gt4 ownership, they are just not willing to take a 20k bath for the privilege. This thread wouldn't be the size it is if they were good value at the moment.
5 being up for sale at one dealership must get the mind ticking.
anonymous said:
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This now makes more sense, around 2009 we bought a new boxster this only had a two year warranty. If I remember correctly when we bought a new new cayenne the following year the invoice showed around £1000 for the third year warranty which I questioned. We have a another macan coming shortly I will check how it is shown on the invoice. I guess it will show a charge for the third year. 
GT4RS said:
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This is a very good post that I was not aware of, if that is the case am I correct in thinking that cars currently for sale by independent garages outside of the Porsche network do not carry on the Porsche 3 year guarantee??Also, because the price is driven by the owner and not the retailer, could this could explain some of the erratic asking prices we are seeing?
Timetoburn said:
GT4RS said:
This now makes more sense, around 2009 we bought a new boxster this only had a two year warranty. If I remember correctly when we bought a new new cayenne the following year the invoice showed around £1000 for the third year warranty which I questioned. We have a another macan coming shortly I will check how it is shown on the invoice. I guess it will show a charge for the third year.
No it won't show a charge for the third year now, it is now 3 years manufacturers.Timetoburn said:
anonymous said:
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Not true anymore.New cars come with 3 years Manufacturers Guarantee from 2015.
They used to have 2 years Manufacturers Guarantee and 1 year 'optional' extended warranty policy - which you should always have been able to opt out of.
When i picked up my new GT4 last December there was no option to opt out of the 3rd yr warranty so you're both right.
Fokker said:
Budweiser said:
4 GT4's for sale at one OPC alone?
I think you'll find Cardiff have 5. 2 they own and 3 they're selling for customers all with I think less than 1000 miles or thereabouts... anonymous said:
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That is absolutely as I understand it. However my car was bought through an OPC secondhand and my local OPC looked up the warranty situation on my car and said that the warranty was valid for the full 3 years. As it happens I have had a warranty claim outside the 2 years - but that would have been covered by the Porsche Approved warranty anyway. So I am not clear how Porsche keep track of sales via OPCs - there is nothing in the VO5 to tell them - and just hope that I don't have to test the situation in the next 6 months.Taffy66 said:
Fokker said:
Budweiser said:
4 GT4's for sale at one OPC alone?
I think you'll find Cardiff have 5. 2 they own and 3 they're selling for customers all with I think less than 1000 miles or thereabouts... Just doesn't make sense to me.
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