12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing

[cypriot]

Porsche911R said:

There is it's a 911R the issue is it's £500k now !

pretty sure its all but official that the next gt3 will come in a manual. Also, regarding your previous comment about the Lotus 410/400, I actually think they are more than viable options... Seriously, selling a gt4 for £90 bags you a tidy profit, then you can pick up an evora 400 for about 60k (so you still have 30k in your bank) and you have a serious car on your hands. The steering, chassis and brakes of the lotus are on another level, and its been shown time again that the 400 can stand up to track punishment better than most other cars. Plus, you wont care about tuning it. Build quality? its not people's' daily driver anyway, so who cares? the quality isnt bad, it just isnt as good as a porsche. I honestly think that if someone is looking for a "driving experience" they should definitely look at the evora as a replacement to a GT4.

[Fokker]

Porsche911R said:

There is it's a 911R the issue is it's £500k now !

Oh well if they dont make a manual GT3 then I'm not that bothered. Ive just come back from a long weekend and 500 miles driving Wales' best roads in my 991 GTS and wow its a good road car!

Utterly sublime...

[Ravi355]

996 GT3 would get my vote every day.

Porsche911R said:

I thought about selling mine, but the issue is what to buy even at £90k new or close to new which is fun !

I cannot think of any new car I want, ECOTY was crap this year, 6 cars you cannot buy and only one NA manual car in the test ! which is £500k on the 2nd hand market !

GT4 still looks bloody cheap when you look at 997 GT3 prices and cars that old up at £90k and lets face it 60% are tatty now and 30k miles.

570S seems the best new car on the market which you can order but they are £180k, turbo and auto.
R8 again a nice buy with a NA V10 but they are £130k and automatic.

And it looks like no manual future GT3, so that makes the GT4 a car you may as well keep and use.

I love changing cars, but there are no cars to change into !!!

At £50k the Cayman R still runs rings round any other sports car at that price, so that's another keeper.

Evora 410 Sport might be a nice drive but it's a very old car, an even older engine and will drop £30k in 12 months !
plus would any GT4 owner really swap to Lotus build issues !!! nope !

drop a light weight flywheel into a GT4 and give it the 425 BHP as shown and it's pretty much a perfect car at any price
and lighter than the 911R !

they have pretty much sorted the GT4 engine maps now to be perfect, what a great dyno imo

[Macca993]

Hi Guys. A few folks here I know from the 991 GT3 board going back a bit!

If anyone knows of a VAT qualifying GT4 for sale under 90K I would be interested. Lowish miles would be good and buckets too. Im not so fussed on colour, more interested in a car that has been cherished or well cared for and not a car that has been regularly on the track.

Thanks in advance amigos

[P155flaps]

cypriot said:

pretty sure its all but official that the next gt3 will come in a manual. Also, regarding your previous comment about the Lotus 410/400, I actually think they are more than viable options... Seriously, selling a gt4 for £90 bags you a tidy profit, then you can pick up an evora 400 for about 60k (so you still have 30k in your bank) and you have a serious car on your hands. The steering, chassis and brakes of the lotus are on another level, and its been shown time again that the 400 can stand up to track punishment better than most other cars. Plus, you wont care about tuning it. Build quality? its not people's' daily driver anyway, so who cares? the quality isnt bad, it just isnt as good as a porsche. I honestly think that if someone is looking for a "driving experience" they should definitely look at the evora as a replacement to a GT4.

I'd love another Lotus (would love a 410 brilliant drivers cars) but sadly my last Evora was in the garage more that every other car I've owned put together.

Got to the point where it was an issue every few hundred miles (mostly electrical) also had gear linkages, clutch, water in footwells (it was a year old!). I always got the sense what next, never get that feeling with the GT4 (my first and only Porsche to date).

I know someone with an Exige V6 and sadly his is always in with niggles.

So the issues are there an a real downer on otherwise brilliant cars.

[RSVP911]

Macca993 said:

Hi Guys. A few folks here I know from the 991 GT3 board going back a bit!

If anyone knows of a VAT qualifying GT4 for sale under 90K I would be interested. Lowish miles would be good and buckets too. Im not so fussed on colour, more interested in a car that has been cherished or well cared for and not a car that has been regularly on the track.

Thanks in advance amigos

Hey stranger ! Welcome back , if you need any help UK side let me know

[av185]

Yep, just like old times!

Sierra Mikes on here occasionally too!

[RSVP911]

av185 said:

Yep, just like old times!

Sierra Mikes on here occasionally too!

I know right - the good old days , when all we talked about was driving - not a mention of values , flipping , deviated stitching - oh hang on a mo ........

[av185]

RSVP911 said:

I know right - the good old days , when all we talked about was driving - not a mention of values , flipping , deviated stitching - oh hang on a mo ........

[Macca993]

Hey Rich and Av. Great to see you on here again. The band is back together LOL! Im sure Sunill will chime in soon too. Hope you are both well and still enjoying driving your P-cars without fear of depreciation or getting the "exclusive" option stitching dirty. Kidding of course...I still have the GT3, its in rude health, now on its third engine and regularly beaten at the track. Lets hope they can get the donk sorted on the next generation...

[Porsche911R]

cypriot said:

Seriously, selling a gt4 for £90 bags you a tidy profit, then you can pick up an evora 400 for about 60k (so you still have 30k in your bank) and you have a serious car on your hands. The steering, chassis and brakes of the lotus are on another level, .

I cannot see 1 person swapping a GT4 for a Evora lol

while it might have a tad more steering feel than the GT4 the chassis and brakes are NOT on another level at all, they match the GT4 that's all. It's an old design and a poor engine imo and of course not NA either.

I did think about a swap but the build is still on the super cheap side and unfinished, to a point I only see it as a £45k car it's so low rent.

410S might be a nice 2nd hand buy down the line sub £50k, but a GT4 swap no chance.
The GT4 is the car on another level.

[av185]

Macca993 said:

I still have the GT3, its in rude health, now on its third engine .

That averages only 1 engine per year Macca!

Unaware of any engine issues affecting the GT4 so far.......one of the advantages of a detuned Carrera engine I suppose.

[av185]

Porsche911R said:

410S might be a nice 2nd hand buy down the line sub £50k,

Andrew English didn't seem to rave about it when on test last week. Major issues about the gearbox too:

[Macca993]

Yip. The GT4 engine seems to be holding up fine so far. Only issues Ive heard is 3rd gear failure. Only other complaint form those that I track with that own them is they need alot of setting up to reduce understeer on the track and prevent them form eating MPSC2 front tyre shoulders every 2-3 track days. The quickest GT4 I drive with has had quite alot of suspension work (LCA, hiem jointed rear rods, running -3.0+F, -2.5R, shims, geo and DSC suspension module etc) to get the best from the chassis. Unfortunately the trade off is road compliance. Many serious track guys in teh USA now putting firmer springs on the front. The 991.1 GT3 by comparison requires almost nothing (I have -2.0F + R and that is all). The GT3 is all about the engine and the GT4 is about the chassis (and manual box). Ive driven both at pace and wrote a review over on the RL boards which most owners of both thought was on the money. I think the GT4 is an exceptional car for the money. Im thinking to move the 991.1 GT3 on and use a GT4 for a year before the new GT3 comes out etc. I do around 12 track days a year so I think it would be fine for that. I lie the MT box better for the road but the PDK better on the track. I dont like the rev match on the MT box much, prefer heel & toe. The graph above for an ECU tune must surely have a cargraphic or Dundon Motorsports set of race headers (catted) on it to make those gains surely. I dont think even with emissions tuning Porsche left that much on the table.

If anyone hears of a VATQ GT4 for sale regardless of miles, colour or spec around 85-90K please PM me as Im in the market...thanks again. M

Edited by Macca993 on Tuesday 8th November 11:31

[FFM]

Porsche911R said:

... ECOTY was crap this year, 6 cars you cannot buy and only one NA manual car in the test ! which is £500k on the 2nd hand market !

in ECOTY the Vantage GT8 was Manual too.. (sadly it will be the last NA engine'd Aston)

[RSVP911]

Macca993 said:

Hey Rich and Av. Great to see you on here again. The band is back together LOL! Im sure Sunill will chime in soon too. Hope you are both well and still enjoying driving your P-cars without fear of depreciation or getting the "exclusive" option stitching dirty. Kidding of course...I still have the GT3, its in rude health, now on its third engine and regularly beaten at the track. Lets hope they can get the donk sorted on the next generation...

Glad the old girl is going strong - but what are you doing to be on your third engine ? Have you tried changing gear out if 1st occasionally , maybe re filling the oil - just a thought ? Either way you shouldn't be driving them - you know it de values them and gets them dirty - did I teach you nothing ?

[FocusRS3]

FWIW close pal of mine today sold GT4 with 918 buckets, 6,700 miles, PCM, carbon pack and extra alcantara for 74k to private buyer. Had used it on track but replaced all four tyres prior to sale

[pete.g]

FocusRS3 said:

FWIW close pal of mine today sold GT4 with 918 buckets, 6,700 miles, PCM, carbon pack and extra alcantara for 74k to private buyer. Had used it on track but replaced all four tyres prior to sale

I'm very disappointed that this has been up for over an hour without someone questioning your honesty or suggesting your close friend is obviously in financial distress and his car has crash damage, a dodgy history and the Ebola virus.

There must be something good on TV.

[Wilmslowboy]

FocusRS3 said:

FWIW close pal of mine today sold GT4 with 918 buckets, 6,700 miles, PCM, carbon pack and extra alcantara for 74k to private buyer. Had used it on track but replaced all four tyres prior to sale

Was it ever advertised - if so where ??

I'd seriously think of buying at that price/spec

[mdianuk]

pete.g said:

I'm very disappointed that this has been up for over an hour without someone questioning your honesty or suggesting your close friend is obviously in financial distress and his car has crash damage, a dodgy history and the Ebola virus.

Haha, probably the case, but I would question why the poster has only recently appeared on this thread talking down prices (whilst his close friend is trying to sell) and then suddenly comes out with this. You will always get those talking prices up (owners), and those talking prices down (wannabe owners or general observers), nothing new there, but I'm calling custard on this deal.

Edited by mdianuk on Tuesday 8th November 23:39