12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing
Discussion
PorscheGT4 said:
no one had 15 from the 1st allocation any way. I have said that before, some things not quite right, and as the Poster will not say which OPC had 15 and now has had 20 !
You may as well say one OPC had 35 cars on a forum or 50.
we will know the numbers in 12 months till then it's all a bit hear say like the GT3 numbers were.
my OPC will not take deposits, they have a list of deposits after the 7 or so cars they are getting, where as Nottingham will take your GT4 money still and are saying they can get you a car !
Again it's a mess and I bet Porsche are loving it as are OPC's with the double sells.
Porsche took 30 million in GT4 deposits at a guess it's great marketing to get cash in 12 months before a car comes out, and 1/3 of those people have NOT got their deposits back yet !
As for Porsche caring about flippers, of course they don't care if they did they would be up front and say don't worry we are making 500 UK cars not 200, but when Porsche say we are only making 200 then of course cars will get flipped for money, again a win win for Porsche and a win win for the OPC's
here is a car with no spec in the early days and it took 30 million is deposits minimum !
I agree with a lot of this , especially the bit about Porsche not caring about flippers (esp if back into the network) In terms of my reluctance to stating which OPC - really sorry , but I don't want to get anyone into trouble and compromise my relationship , but surely by now you can see I'm genuine and as such , I'm afraid you are just going to have to trust me in this or not , it's up to you. But hopefully as I have a GT4 slot , we can agree that I don't have an agenda to drive down prices - I just want my info to be in the public domain to help people make informed decisions. You may as well say one OPC had 35 cars on a forum or 50.
we will know the numbers in 12 months till then it's all a bit hear say like the GT3 numbers were.
my OPC will not take deposits, they have a list of deposits after the 7 or so cars they are getting, where as Nottingham will take your GT4 money still and are saying they can get you a car !
Again it's a mess and I bet Porsche are loving it as are OPC's with the double sells.
Porsche took 30 million in GT4 deposits at a guess it's great marketing to get cash in 12 months before a car comes out, and 1/3 of those people have NOT got their deposits back yet !
As for Porsche caring about flippers, of course they don't care if they did they would be up front and say don't worry we are making 500 UK cars not 200, but when Porsche say we are only making 200 then of course cars will get flipped for money, again a win win for Porsche and a win win for the OPC's
here is a car with no spec in the early days and it took 30 million is deposits minimum !
Re the 15 to 20 - I've always said 15 until the extra allocation of 5 , hence the 20 - I've been absolutely consistent on this - but there are lots of posts flying about and as such it is easy to get one comment mixed with another - I know I can't remember what everyone says all the time / what cars they have etc - old age is creeping in
Scooty100 said:
apachesmith said:
Currently 12 GT4's for sale on Piston Heads with 4 being added today!
To date only one looks to have sold via JZM, the other seem to be hanging around. Is this a sign that people aren't willing to pay the over inflated prices on these cars or people are just biding their time to see where the market goes when all of the cars have been delivered?
Also this has to be an eye opener to Porsche that a good number of the early cars that have been delivered to their favored customers are straight to re-sale? I'm surprised the 20-30k increase in price on these cars is enough to make people sell these cars especially given how rare they are and how good they seem to be!
Seen similar posts by people that wanted a car but didn't get one . Called sour grapes . No other reason to start such s thread To date only one looks to have sold via JZM, the other seem to be hanging around. Is this a sign that people aren't willing to pay the over inflated prices on these cars or people are just biding their time to see where the market goes when all of the cars have been delivered?
Also this has to be an eye opener to Porsche that a good number of the early cars that have been delivered to their favored customers are straight to re-sale? I'm surprised the 20-30k increase in price on these cars is enough to make people sell these cars especially given how rare they are and how good they seem to be!
From start to finish the way Porsche have handled the supply of the car and availability of options has been a complete farce.
In the main, once a car had been ordered,neither the dealer nor the customer have been able to keep a solid handle as to when the car would be built.
The availability status of options has constantly changed.
Adding a footwell storage net would mean you lost lwb and clubsport-what.
A few cars appear in August/September then supply dries up again
Then cars build status suddenly appear and Porsche virtually build the whole of the first years allocation and more and deliver them all over a 6 week period.
Great !
In the main, once a car had been ordered,neither the dealer nor the customer have been able to keep a solid handle as to when the car would be built.
The availability status of options has constantly changed.
Adding a footwell storage net would mean you lost lwb and clubsport-what.
A few cars appear in August/September then supply dries up again
Then cars build status suddenly appear and Porsche virtually build the whole of the first years allocation and more and deliver them all over a 6 week period.
Great !
nutbehinddawheel said:
From start to finish the way Porsche have handled the supply of the car and availability of options has been a complete farce.
In the main, once a car had been ordered,neither the dealer nor the customer have been able to keep a solid handle as to when the car would be built.
The availability status of options has constantly changed.
Adding a footwell storage net would mean you lost lwb and clubsport-what.
A few cars appear in August/September then supply dries up again
Then cars build status suddenly appear and Porsche virtually build the whole of the first years allocation and more and deliver them all over a 6 week period.
Great !
Current numbers for sale doesn't look unusual. Even if they did produce 450 it will still be rare. Look for example at a BMW 1M. Nice car not quite a GT4 but they produced 450. First cars were 2011 and low mileage cars still go for slightly more than original list. There was the usual initial speculation but used cars on the market have now settled into a set pattern. In the main, once a car had been ordered,neither the dealer nor the customer have been able to keep a solid handle as to when the car would be built.
The availability status of options has constantly changed.
Adding a footwell storage net would mean you lost lwb and clubsport-what.
A few cars appear in August/September then supply dries up again
Then cars build status suddenly appear and Porsche virtually build the whole of the first years allocation and more and deliver them all over a 6 week period.
Great !
This one is optimistically priced
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Some of them have been specced oddly. Almost as if people kept the cost down knowing they were going to flip them, maybe they won't be so easy to sell and the dealers will mostly likely only take those on sale or return.
Has my post been illuminating, not really! I am one of the people who want one directly without paying the premium!
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Some of them have been specced oddly. Almost as if people kept the cost down knowing they were going to flip them, maybe they won't be so easy to sell and the dealers will mostly likely only take those on sale or return.
Has my post been illuminating, not really! I am one of the people who want one directly without paying the premium!
birdcage said:
This one is optimistically priced
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Some of them have been specced oddly. Almost as if people kept the cost down knowing they were going to flip them, maybe they won't be so easy to sell and the dealers will mostly likely only take those on sale or return.
Has my post been illuminating, not really! I am one of the people who want one directly without paying the premium!
I think someone needs to have a word with DK Engineering...Their advert reads "Only 50 GT4s are destined for the UK and these have all been sold." I'm not sure which GT4 they're referring to but that's simply not true! http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Some of them have been specced oddly. Almost as if people kept the cost down knowing they were going to flip them, maybe they won't be so easy to sell and the dealers will mostly likely only take those on sale or return.
Has my post been illuminating, not really! I am one of the people who want one directly without paying the premium!
apachesmith said:
Sorry to disappoint Scooty100, Mine is ordered and due early 2016. I'm just curious that so many are up for sale rather than being driven as the should be! I'm not sure there is a lot Porsche can do about this but it seems the speculators are getting first dibbs!
Far from disappointed I get mine this month. I couldn't care about speculators it's not why I ordered my car but no denying jzm sold that car last week for a net profit of about 25k profit for the first owner . Let's hope they go back to list then I'll buy another one
Scooty100 said:
Far from disappointed I get mine this month.
I couldn't care about speculators it's not why I ordered my car but no denying jzm sold that car last week for a net profit of about 25k profit for the first owner . Let's hope they go back to list then I'll buy another one
You'll keep buying at list? Confident of them holding at least that value long term, or just want two of them to play with?I couldn't care about speculators it's not why I ordered my car but no denying jzm sold that car last week for a net profit of about 25k profit for the first owner . Let's hope they go back to list then I'll buy another one
birdcage said:
This one is optimistically priced
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Some of them have been specced oddly. Almost as if people kept the cost down knowing they were going to flip them, maybe they won't be so easy to sell and the dealers will mostly likely only take those on sale or return.
Has my post been illuminating, not really! I am one of the people who want one directly without paying the premium!
they are Ferrari specialists
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Some of them have been specced oddly. Almost as if people kept the cost down knowing they were going to flip them, maybe they won't be so easy to sell and the dealers will mostly likely only take those on sale or return.
Has my post been illuminating, not really! I am one of the people who want one directly without paying the premium!
they are Ferrari specialists
Akajak said:
birdcage said:
This one is optimistically priced
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Some of them have been specced oddly. Almost as if people kept the cost down knowing they were going to flip them, maybe they won't be so easy to sell and the dealers will mostly likely only take those on sale or return.
Has my post been illuminating, not really! I am one of the people who want one directly without paying the premium!
they are Ferrari specialists
Why do you think optimistic. DK Engineering know their stuff
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Some of them have been specced oddly. Almost as if people kept the cost down knowing they were going to flip them, maybe they won't be so easy to sell and the dealers will mostly likely only take those on sale or return.
Has my post been illuminating, not really! I am one of the people who want one directly without paying the premium!
they are Ferrari specialists
Why do you think optimistic. DK Engineering know their stuff
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