12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing

[Fokker]

franki68 said:

They want 3-4K 'profit' but around 2k to put warranty on it & prep it .
My car is with an opc on sor at the moment.

Yes that seems fair to me

[Cheib]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Depends how much use has been got out of the GT4! I remember someone on here saying he had to trade his GT3 RS back in at retail price to get his R which obviously wasn't a bad deal. GT4 for GT3 ? I'd do that if that was what I had to do to get a GT3.

[keepup]

Thanks everyone for your thoughts.

[philnotts]

I am guessing its not going to be possible to run a GT4 or even a GTS for the summer months and have almost free motoring at current prices?!.......

[av185]

GT4 residuals less seasonal than the GT3 as its obviously a cheaper car and can be used more throughout the winter.

Both decent spec and mileage GT4 and 981 GTS prices should stay firm this year and well into 2018.

[langlord]

Justifying a purchase on the basis of free motoring is never a sensible thing. Obviously its possible to be in the right place at the right time and get a good deal on the way in and then on the way out but that's unlikely on a GT4 or GTS, just because the market is quite clearly established.

In terms of the pricing and the cars which are consistently in the mid 80's range they are the ones on the higher mileage of plus 4,000. So on that basis if you use it properly, and you should with a GT4, then you can probably work that for every 1,000 miles you writing off about £1,000. Obviously this is a very crude way of looking at things, but that should give you a starting point if money really is an issue. Although if you are questioning money on a +£85k purchase I would question if you can really afford it.

Personally a £5-£10k loss on what is an amazing car, which puts a smile on my face every time I use it, is well and truly worth it. Hence why I purchased and I will finally get to drive it in real anger at Silverstone GP circuit with Porsche UK in 2 weeks time.

[Twinfan]

Yep, and the Guards Red manual has reappeared...

[md_ian]

philnotts said:

I am guessing its not going to be possible to run a GT4 or even a GTS for the summer months and have almost free motoring at current prices?!.......

I cannot see prices going south in the next year, and beyond that, it will all be down to what happens with the next GT4. Nothing wrong with trying to predict free motoring for a few months.

[JayK12]

The East London car is back on Autotrader.

015(65) Grey 5633 £86995 East London Steel Race Yes/Silver Brushed Yes No Yes Sold? ~08/05/2017

£85995 now.

[md_ian]

JayK12 said:

The East London car is back on Autotrader.

015(65) Grey 5633 £86995 East London Steel Race Yes/Silver Brushed Yes No Yes Sold? ~08/05/2017

£85995 now.

I only take the OPC network as a guide, but they come and go often, which is why I refrain from reporting the data too often, just once or twice per week.

[fossilfuelled]

I came close to buying that East London car - it doesn't have nav and is a very spartan spec. It just doesn't feel "special" enough. Also it's SOR so the pool of potential buyers is reduced to those that are 100% sure they are after that particular car and spec without driving it I guess. - Or maybe East London didn't think I was serious about the purchase. They didn't try to sell it to me at all. Not surprised it's coming down in price. Original owner is an ex racer. Famous chap - might even be on here.

[md_ian]

fossilfuelled said:

I came close to buying that East London car - it doesn't have nav and is a very spartan spec. It just doesn't feel "special" enough. Also it's SOR so the pool of potential buyers is reduced to those that are 100% sure they are after that particular car and spec without driving it I guess. - Or maybe East London didn't think I was serious about the purchase. They didn't try to sell it to me at all. Not surprised it's coming down in price. Original owner is an ex racer. Famous chap - might even be on here.

Seems quite common that cars on SOR become impossible to test drive for a prospective customer. I can understand it to a degree, but ultimately if you wish to sell it, then test drives are necessary, and the dealership can control this without risk to the car. Someone mentioned just the other day that they've still not managed to test drive a car they are interested in, despite being serious, and was even told to go see another one first (presumably to drive) and then come back!!!

[lemmingjames]

md_ian said:

Seems quite common that cars on SOR become impossible to test drive for a prospective customer. I can understand it to a degree, but ultimately if you wish to sell it, then test drives are necessary, and the dealership can control this without risk to the car. Someone mentioned just the other day that they've still not managed to test drive a car they are interested in, despite being serious, and was even told to go see another one first (presumably to drive) and then come back!!!

Hatfield have a grey one in (dont know spec or if its on the locator), but was chatting to the salesman and inquiring about a test drive to see what the hype was about (told him this), i was just told that they wouldnt let anyone test drive it until after financial chats had been held and it was pretty much a done deal

[ClarkeyDiem]

Keep up the good work md_ian, this is great stuff to drop in on to see whats happening with the market

The white Solihul car will be an interesting case: 3 owners, 1050m, (cant find a popcorn emoji;))

[Shiverman]

ClarkeyDiem said:

Keep up the good work md_ian, this is great stuff to drop in on to see whats happening with the market

The white Solihul car will be an interesting case: 3 owners, 1050m, (cant find a popcorn emoji;))

My eyebrows raised at the 3 owners as well. Nicely specced car but missing a couple of pretty essential toy afaik. I.e dual climate and auto dimming rear view mirror. If it had those (and could get a few quid off) I could be tempted.

[fossilfuelled]

Contrast that approach with a Porsche owned garage (Guildford) where I called up on the Friday, said I was interested in the car and could only come to have a look on bank holiday Monday when I would be looking to purchase it after a quick drive. Arrived 10min before My appointment but was still merrily greeted in the car park by the happy and excited salesman who was expecting me. Took turns to drive the car with my partner and did the deal within an hour. Can't fault the experience at all.
I've been a customer of east London for two years for servicing bits and bobs and even though I continually tried to build a relationship with the sales team there, I wasn't making any progress.

[Koln-RS]

woollyjoe said:

It's normal to not test drive GT Cars i thought.
You can always make a purchase subject to a test drive before completion. I'm sure this would reassure the seller but give buyer peace of mind.
Might be worth a trip to PEC also?

I think that's true.

Virtually everyone who buys a GT car 'new', will have done so without driving it, making their decision based on road test reviews.

PEC is good, and came about because there is no way these cars can be properly demonstrated on the road. Back in the '90s there were some terrible fatal accidents involving 'test drives' with salesmen - Porsche, Ferrari, TVR.......the press had a field day.

Porsche realised that 180mph cars, deal hungry salesmen and hot headed punters walking in off the street, were a dangerous mix, and pre-PEC, they started using qualified driving consultants to supervise the test drives.

These days, I guess they have to make a careful judgement based on the preciousness of the car and/or their confidence in the customer.

[Twinfan]

PEC is the way to go. I'm visiting in August to take their GT4 out for 90 minutes. This is so I can compare it to my CGTS and decide whether I should make any attempt to get a 718 GT4 when it's announced.

I don't want to be a tyre kicker at an OPC, nor do I want to risk damaging a car that's for sale. The PEC is the ideal solution, plus it's a good excuse for an overnight road trip with Mrs Twinfan

[md_ian]

So, latest stats for this week. Quite a lot of action in the market with a huge 6 added, maybe those with GT3's inbound looking to cash in now. Cars include East London (albeit a return from the sold/removed table), Colchester, Leicester, Hatfield, Silverstone, Bolton. We also have 2 departed including Portsmouth, Silverstone. I think we might see this list grow over the next few months, but cannot see OPC's looking at dropping the prices, there is no reason to do so.

22 OPC GT4's FOR SALE in total(since 11/11/2016)

Year	Colour	Mileage	Price	OPC	Brakes	Seats	Leather/Stitching	Trim	Phone	Sat Nav	Clubsport	Link	Status
2015(65)	White	3512	£84900	Reading	Steel	Race	No	Brushed	Yes	No	Yes	Clicky	Available
2015(65)	Grey	5633	£85995	East London	Steel	Race	Yes/Silver	Brushed	Yes	No	Yes	Clicky	Available
2015(65)	Yellow	4968	£87900	Reading	Steel	Race	Yes/Silver	Brushed	Yes	No	Yes	Clicky	Available
2016(16)	White	2000	£87981	Tewkesbury	Steel	Race	Yes/Silver	Brushed	Yes	Yes	Yes	Clicky	Available
2015(65)	Blue	4677	£88991	Bolton	Steel	Race	Yes/Silver	Brushed	Yes	Yes	No	Clicky	Available
2015(65)	White	1050	£89000	Solihull	PCCB	Sports	Yes/Silver	Carbon	No	Yes	No	Clicky	Available
2015(65)	Blue	3392	£89990	Sutton Coldfield	Steel	Sports	Yes/Red	Brushed	Yes	Yes	No	Clicky	Available
2015(65)	Black	1292	£89995	Brooklands	Steel	Sports	Yes/Red	Brushed	Yes	Yes	No	Clicky	Available
2016(16)	White	9447	£89995	Colchester	Steel	Race	Yes/Silver	Brushed	Yes	Yes	No	Clicky	New addition
2016(16)	Blue	1779	£91000	Edinburgh	Steel	Race	Yes/Red	Carbon	Yes	Yes	No	Clicky	Available
2016(16)	Blue	1195	£91500	Glasgow	Steel	Sports	Yes/Red	Carbon	Yes	Yes	No	Clicky	Available
2015(65)	Blue	2309	£91981	Tewkesbury	Steel	Race	Yes/Silver	Carbon	Yes	Yes	Yes	Clicky	Available
2015(65)	Yellow	2770	£92000	Leicester	Steel	Race	Yes/Yellow	Carbon	Yes	No	No	Clicky	New addition
2016(16)	Silver	4682	£92000	Edinburgh	PCCB	Sports	Yes/Silver	Brushed	Yes	Yes	No	Clicky	Available
2015(65)	Blue	5520	£92101	Nottingham	Steel	Race	Yes/Silver	Brushed	Yes	Yes	Yes	Clicky	Available
2015(65)	Yellow	2550	£93000	Solihull	Steel	Race	Yes/Yellow	Carbon	Yes	Yes	Yes	Clicky	Available
2016(16)	Silver	1110	£94900	Hatfield	Steel	Race	Yes/Red	Carbon	Yes	Yes	Yes	Clicky	New addition
2016(65)	Grey	384	£95000	Silverstone	Steel	Race	No	Carbon	Yes	Yes	No	Clicky	New addition
2016(65)	Yellow	4760	£97990	Bristol	PCCB	Race	Yes/Yellow	Carbon	Yes	Yes	Yes	Clicky	Available
2016(16)	Yellow	2199	£98000	Leicester	PCCB	Race	Yes/Yellow	Carbon	Yes	Yes	Yes	Clicky	Available
2016(16)	Grey	4855	£98490	Bolton	PCCB	Race	Yes/Silver	Brushed	Yes	Yes	No	Clicky	New addition
2016(66)	Grey	2725	£98990	Cardiff	PCCB	Race	Yes/Silver	Carbon	Yes	Yes	Yes	Clicky	Available

79 OPC GT4's SOLD in total(since 11/11/2016)

Year	Colour	Mileage	Price	OPC	Brakes	Seats	Leather/Stitching	Trim	Phone	Sat Nav	Clubsport	Status
2015(65)	Yellow	7326	£79000	Glasgow	Steel	Sports	Yes	Brushed	Yes	No	No	Sold? ~11/11/2016
2016(65)	Blue	7364	£83000	Swindon	Steel	Race	Yes	Brushed	Yes	Yes	Yes	Sold? ~23/03/2017
2016(65)	Black	3145	£83990	Newcastle	Steel	Sports	Yes	Carbon	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~28/11/2016
2015(65)	White	3641	£84990	Bristol	Steel	Sports	Yes	Brushed	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~13/03/2017
2016(16)	White	1092	£84990	Cardiff	Steel	Sports	No	Brushed	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~10/02/2017
2015(65)	Blue	9780	£84995	Colchester	Steel	Sports	Yes	Brushed	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~31/12/2016
2015(65)	White	5299	£86990	Newcastle	Steel	Race	Yes	Anthracite	Yes	No	Yes	Sold? ~16/12/2016
2016(16)	Yellow	1042	£87000	Leicester	Steel	Sports	Yes	Carbon	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~15/02/2017
2016(16)	Yellow	1350	£87000	Solihull	Steel	Sports	Yes	Brushed	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~16/01/2017
2015(65)	Silver	1898	£87890	Leeds	Steel	Sports	Yes	Brushed	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~07/02/2017
2016(65)	Black	3710	£87895	Tonbridge	Steel	Sports	Yes	Brushed	Yes	No	No	Sold? ~28/03/2017
2015(65)	Red	1542	£87900	Portsmouth	Steel	Race	No	Anthracite	Yes	No	No	Sold? ~11/05/2017
2016(16)	White	1197	£87990	Cardiff	Steel	Race	No	Carbon	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~07/02/2017
2015(65)	White	2490	£87995	Colchester	Steel	Sports	Yes/Red	Leather	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~10/04/2017
2015(65)	White	3726	£88000	Leicester	Steel	Race	Yes	Carbon	Yes	Yes	Yes	Sold? ~09/12/2016
2015(65)	Red	2466	£88500	Leeds	Steel	Race	Yes	Brushed	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~20/02/2017
2015(65)	White	3948	£88981	Tewkesbury	Steel	Sports	Yes	Brushed	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~12/01/2017
2015(65)	Yellow	759	£88990	Cardiff	PCCB	Sports	Yes	Brushed	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~15/02/2017
2016(16)	Black	2092	£88990	Bristol	PCCB	Sports	Yes	Carbon	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~23/01/2017
2015(65)	Red	4070	£89500	Glasgow	Steel	Race	Yes	Painted	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~05/12/2016
2015(65)	Red	782	£89500	Edinburgh	Steel	Race	Yes	Carbon	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~18/11/2016
2015(15)	Yellow	16021	£89900	Portsmouth	PCCB	Race	Yes	Carbon	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~09/01/2017
2016(65)	White	2809	£89900	Bournemouth	Steel	Race	Yes/Silver	Brushed	No	Yes	No	Sold? ~15/05/2017
2015(15)	White	3347	£89901	Nottingham	Steel	Sports	Yes	Carbon	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~24/02/2017
2016(66)	White	17	£89981	Chester	Steel	Sports	Yes/Silver	Brushed	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~22/04/2017
2016(65)	White	2973	£89990	Wolverhampton	Steel	Race	Yes	Brushed	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~23/03/2017
2016(16)	Yellow	4305	£89990	Newcastle	Steel	Race	Yes	Brushed	Yes	No	Yes	Sold? ~20/01/2017
2015(65)	White	1385	£89990	Bristol	Steel	Race	Yes	Brushed	Yes	Yes	Yes	Sold? ~05/01/2017
2015(15)	Black	3500	£89991	Tewkesbury	Steel	Sports	Yes/Red	Carbon	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~04/04/2017
2016(16)	Red	2199	£89991	Chester	Steel	Race	No	Brushed	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~13/03/2017
2016(16)	Red	5472	£89995	Colchester	Steel	Race	Yes	Anthracite	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~27/03/2017
2016(65)	White	2260	£89995	Colchester	Steel	Sports	Yes	Anthracite	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~19/12/2016
2016(16)	Black	1692	£89995	Colchester	Steel	Race	Yes	Carbon	Yes	Yes	Yes	Sold? ~16/12/2016
2016(16)	Silver	230	£89995	Tonbridge	Steel	Race	Yes	Brushed	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~12/12/2016
2015(65)	Red	6350	£89995	Guildford	Steel	Race	Yes/Red	Brushed	Yes	Yes	Yes	Sold? ~08/05/2017
2015(65)	Blue	3274	£90000	Edinburgh	Steel	Race	Yes	Brushed	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~27/02/2017
2016(16)	Yellow	1996	£90000	Leeds	PCCB	Race	Yes/Yellow	Carbon	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~10/04/2017
2015(65)	Grey	2755	£90900	Reading	Steel	Race	Yes	Carbon	Yes	Yes	Yes	Sold? ~27/03/2017
2016(16)	Black	3372	£90990	Cardiff	Steel	Race	Yes	Carbon	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~28/12/2016
2016(16)	Yellow	550	£91900	Bournemouth	Steel	Race	Yes/Yellow	Brushed	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~04/04/2017
2016(65)	Black	50	£91990	Swindon	Steel	Race	Yes	Carbon	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~31/12/2016
2016(16)	Blue	1400	£92000	Guildford	Steel	Race	Yes	Anthracite	Yes	Yes	Yes	Sold? ~23/03/2017
2015(65)	Blue	2286	£92000	Edinburgh	Steel	Race	Yes	Painted	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~30/01/2017
2016(16)	White	3925	£92401	Sutton Coldfield	Steel	Race	No	Carbon	Yes	Yes	Yes	Sold? ~13/03/2017
2015(65)	Grey	5569	£92790	Leeds	PCCB	Race	Yes	Carbon	Yes	Yes	Yes	Sold? ~17/03/2017
2015(65)	Blue	8600	£92900	Portsmouth	PCCB	Race	Yes/Yellow	Brushed	Yes	Yes	Yes	Sold? ~19/05/2017
2016(66)	Black	1107	£92900	Hatfield	Steel	Sports	Yes	Brushed	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~23/03/2017
2015(65)	Yellow	3660	£92981	Tewkesbury	PCCB	Race	Yes	Carbon	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~07/03/2017
2016(16)	Grey	1356	£92990	Wolverhampton	Steel	Race	Yes	Carbon	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~23/03/2017
2015(65)	White	1065	£92995	Colchester	Steel	Race	No	Brushed	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~31/12/2016
2016(16)	Black	2393	£93000	Solihull	Steel	Race	Yes/Red	Brushed	Yes	Yes	Yes	Sold? ~15/05/2017
2016(16)	White	6012	£93000	Aberdeen	PCCB	Race	Yes	Brushed	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~13/03/2017
2016(65)	Black	1655	£93000	Mid Sussex	Steel	Race	Yes	Brushed	Yes	Yes	Yes	Sold? ~20/01/2017
2016(65)	Red	715	£93000	Mid Sussex	Steel	Race	Yes	Brushed	Yes	Yes	Yes	Sold? ~21/12/2016
2016(16)	Blue(PTS)	1431	£93990	Cardiff	Steel	Race	Yes	Brushed	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~21/11/2016
2016(65)	Black	3492	£93995	Tewkesbury	PCCB	Race	Yes/Yellow	Leather	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~15/05/2017
2016(65)	Black	50	£94000	East London	Steel	Race	Yes	Carbon	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~23/11/2016
2015(15)	Red	899	£94850	Exeter	PCCB	Sports	Yes	Carbon	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~10/02/2017
2016(65)	Yellow	350	£94995	Guildford	PCCB	Race	Yes/Yellow	Yellow	Yes	Yes	Yes	Sold? ~08/05/2017
2015(65)	Blue	1300	£95000	Solihull	Steel	Race	Yes	Leather	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~31/12/2016
2015(65)	Yellow	754	£95990	Cardiff	PCCB	Sports	Yes	Brushed	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~10/02/2017
2016(16)	Yellow	3749	£95995	Kendal	PCCB	Race	Yes/Yellow	Carbon	Yes	Yes	Yes	Sold? ~22/04/2017
2016(16)	Silver	975	£96490	Newcastle	PCCB	Race	Yes	Carbon	Yes	Yes	Yes	Sold? ~23/03/2017
2016(16)	Yellow	344	£96850	Exeter	PCCB	Race	Yes	Carbon	Yes	Yes	Yes	Sold? ~30/01/2017
2016(16)	Red	3012	£96995	Portsmouth	PCCB	Race	Yes	Carbon	Yes	Yes	Yes	Sold? ~23/03/2017
2016(16)	Blue	4998	£97000	Portsmouth	PCCB	Race	Yes/Yellow	Carbon	Yes	Yes	Yes	Sold? ~04/04/2017
2015(65)	Silver	1000	£97000	Silverstone	Steel	Race	Yes	Carbon	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~20/02/2017
2016(16)	White	432	£98000	Leicester	PCCB	Race	Yes/Yellow	Carbon	No	No	Yes	Sold? ~10/04/2017
2016(16)	Blue	3435	£99000	Silverstone	PCCB	Race	Yes/Yellow	Carbon	Yes	Yes	Yes	Sold? ~19/05/2017
2016(16)	Silver	20	£99500	Solihull	PCCB	Race	Yes	Brushed	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~11/11/2016
2016(65)	Blue	713	£99990	Bolton	PCCB	Race	Yes	Carbon	Yes	Yes	Yes	Sold? ~07/03/2017
2016(65)	Blue	90	£99995	Brooklands	Steel	Race	Yes	Brushed	Yes	Yes	Yes	Sold? ~23/03/2017
2016(16)	Black	787	£99995	Colchester	PCCB	Race	Yes/Yellow	Brushed	Yes	Yes	Yes	Sold? ~08/05/2017
2016(16)	Blue	700	£100000	Solihull	PCCB	Race	Yes	Carbon	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~21/11/2016
2016(16)	Black	3200	£101000	Solihull	PCCB	Race	Yes	Carbon	Yes	Yes	Yes	Sold? ~15/02/2017
2016(16)	Green(PTS)	3500	£102000	Solihull	PCCB	Race	Yes	Carbon	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~21/11/2016
2016(16)	Red	2300	£102000	Solihull	PCCB	Race	Yes	Carbon	Yes	Yes	Yes	Sold? ~19/12/2016
2015(65)	Silver	415	£102500	Silverstone	PCCB	Race	Yes/Yellow	Carbon	Yes	Yes	No	Sold? ~01/05/2017

[trowelhead]

md_ian said:

Seems quite common that cars on SOR become impossible to test drive for a prospective customer. I can understand it to a degree, but ultimately if you wish to sell it, then test drives are necessary, and the dealership can control this without risk to the car. Someone mentioned just the other day that they've still not managed to test drive a car they are interested in, despite being serious, and was even told to go see another one first (presumably to drive) and then come back!!!

Yes indeed, that was me!

Makes it very tough indeed. And i'm an impulsive sort who probably would have signed on the dotted line after being smitten with a test drive