12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing

[cc3]

Kazandy37 said:

And what interests me is the premium on used is quite low (c £10k) and yet they are hanging around. Wonder if it's just the season?

Premium is £25/30k

[RSVP911]

av185 said:

R, some have claimed a number of OPCs are to receive up to 15 cars but I remain unconvinced.....unless anyone can specifically state which......I know for a fact that 4 are receiving between 9 and 11 max and 2 of these receive the greatest allocation as with the GT3.

Have sent you a PM - may not have worked as I didn't get a copy ?

Edited by RSVP911 on Saturday 6th February 17:59

[Fokker]

cc3 said:

Premium is £25/30k

Think he may have meant the Spyders

[av185]

GT4P said:

The SPYDER is more like 3 cars per dealer average

Edited by GT4P on Saturday 6th February 12:23

This is correct.

[av185]

Kazandy37 said:

yet they are hanging around. Wonder if it's just the season?

Winter clearly not the ultimate cab selling season.

A few hitting the market have also been bizarre spec e.g. the Romans GT silver fair spec but no PCM....although that has now sold as has the black comfort spec OPC car ap £89950 sold quickly.

[av185]

RSVP911 said:

Have sent you a PM - may not have worked as I didn't get a copy ?

Edited by RSVP911 on Saturday 6th February 17:59

Nothing yet received....

[m33ufo]

av185 said:

Kazandy37 said:

yet they are hanging around. Wonder if it's just the season?

Winter clearly not the ultimate cab selling season.

A few hitting the market have also been bizarre spec e.g. the Romans GT silver fair spec but no PCM....although that has now sold as has the black comfort spec OPC car ap £89950 sold quickly.

The spec on my Spyder is still open until 18th Feb so I have the choice of going with PCM but now more than ever it seems like a crazy option - paying £3K for 7 year old PCM3 technology when Porsche have now moved on to PCM4.

[JeffC]

m33ufo said:

av185 said:

Kazandy37 said:

yet they are hanging around. Wonder if it's just the season?

Winter clearly not the ultimate cab selling season.

A few hitting the market have also been bizarre spec e.g. the Romans GT silver fair spec but no PCM....although that has now sold as has the black comfort spec OPC car ap £89950 sold quickly.

The spec on my Spyder is still open until 18th Feb so I have the choice of going with PCM but now more than ever it seems like a crazy option - paying £3K for 7 year old PCM3 technology when Porsche have now moved on to PCM4.

save your money, much better spent on petrol .

[av185]

m33ufo said:

The spec on my Spyder is still open until 18th Feb so I have the choice of going with PCM but now more than ever it seems like a crazy option - paying £3K for 7 year old PCM3 technology when Porsche have now moved on to PCM4.

True but as discussed many times before if you are keeping the car say over 5 years PCM probably not worth speccing if you are not bothered yourself but if you sell within 5 years the car would be worth some £3k less anyway and be harder to sell as the Romans car demonstrated.

[RSVP911]

av185 said:

Nothing yet received....

Weird - it was an epic piece of prose - I will try re writing it and sending it from my desktop - they don't seem to work from remote devices anymore

[m33ufo]

av185 said:

True but as discussed many times before if you are keeping the car say over 5 years PCM probably not worth speccing if you are not bothered yourself but if you sell within 5 years the car would be worth some £3k less anyway and be harder to sell as the Romans car demonstrated.

Not sure the Romans car demonstrated that necessarily. More likely the time of year.

It's a tough choice. I definitely don't want it but then I haven't kept a car longer than 12 months in 30 years of driving!

I'll stick to CDR+.

[Andrew911]

m33ufo said:

av185 said:

True but as discussed many times before if you are keeping the car say over 5 years PCM probably not worth speccing if you are not bothered yourself but if you sell within 5 years the car would be worth some £3k less anyway and be harder to sell as the Romans car demonstrated.

Not sure the Romans car demonstrated that necessarily. More likely the time of year.

It's a tough choice. I definitely don't want it but then I haven't kept a car longer than 12 months in 30 years of driving!

I'll stick to CDR+.

Agree PCM3 isn't worth specing - have it in my 997. Also going with CDR+ on the Spyder

[Fokker]

RSVP911 said:

Weird - it was an epic piece of prose - I will try re writing it and sending it from my desktop - they don't seem to work from remote devices anymore

I not getting pm's either. I emailed them about it and apparently there is an issue but they're taking ages to sort it out.

[RSVP911]

Fokker said:

I not getting pm's either. I emailed them about it and apparently there is an issue but they're taking ages to sort it out.

Ah I see - thats a pain - I've just spent ages re trying it - accidentally hit send before I could copy it just in case (a such, AV if you get it its missing the end bit - sorry !) - I give up !!!!

AV - can you try PM me as I can then try and send to your proper email - I realise yours may not get to me either : in truth its not that bloody important - It's a bit like when you tell a joke and you cock it up so many times that its never worth the wait - I'm going to drink a bottle of red .................

[av185]

RSVP911 said:

Ah I see - thats a pain - I'm going to drink a bottle of red .................

That should do it...:

PM sent.

[RSVP911]

av185 said:

That should do it...:

PM sent.

Cheers - didn't work either though I'm afraid - I will send you one if they ever get it working again

[HokumPokum]

m33ufo said:

av185 said:

True but as discussed many times before if you are keeping the car say over 5 years PCM probably not worth speccing if you are not bothered yourself but if you sell within 5 years the car would be worth some £3k less anyway and be harder to sell as the Romans car demonstrated.

Not sure the Romans car demonstrated that necessarily. More likely the time of year.

It's a tough choice. I definitely don't want it but then I haven't kept a car longer than 12 months in 30 years of driving!

I'll stick to CDR+.

that is patently not true. who cares about pcm on such an elemental car. I would not even care if it had CDR delete. In my opinion, that piece of screen will look seriously outdated like in 996 and one would wish it wasn't even there. I would say you prolly have a point if it were a cayenne but in a specialised sports car, get real. It doesn't even show speed cameras which arguably is the single most important thing in a nav system. If you want some tunes, the CDR+ is more than adequate. I have the standard setup as I only listen to news or audio books.

The entire point being that the specialised cars to a great extent are not Daily drivers. Exceptions abound of course.

[m33ufo]

Completely agree with you.

My original mail also made the point that Porsche, as far as Spyder and GT4 are concerned, are pushing us into spending £3K on a 7 year old PCM3 option which has already been superseded by PCM4.

There's absolutely no way that I would be ticking that box in specifying a Spyder or GT4 today - which I am.

[JeffC]

If its the same nav thats in my late 2013 S its alright but tbh I rarely use it as I rarely leave the north east lol ! I was a bit concerned when my Spyder didnt have it as I wasnt sure if the actual head unit/dash would look different but its the same just the nav button has no function not sure if you get anything else ? I did notice Spyder doesnt have the Jukebox function but not sure if that is a Bose thing? anyway if its just nav when collecting my car and driving the 320 mile home on roads I didnt know I used the google maps app on my iphone for the first time and must say thats loads better and free so on that basis if thats all you get theres not a chance I would pay £3k for it

[bcr5784]

m33ufo said:

Completely agree with you.

My original mail also made the point that Porsche, as far as Spyder and GT4 are concerned, are pushing us into spending £3K on a 7 year old PCM3 option which has already been superseded by PCM4.

There's absolutely no way that I would be ticking that box in specifying a Spyder or GT4 today - which I am.

Accepting that PCM3 is a rip-off - I'm not convinced that the PCM4 deal is really any better. What has happened on the 718 is that SPP and mobile phone module have been included as standard, the price of the car has been put up £2k and the price of the nav module is now a (more acceptable to the market) £1k. So you still pay £3k - just you don't any choice on £2k of it. At least before you could get a mobile phone and SPP separately at £446 and £396. I've not seen PCM4 in action yet - and sure the interface looks sexier - but I'm not sure how much better it really is.

Edited by bcr5784 on Sunday 7th February 11:29