718 Engine Poll

Poll: 718 Engine Poll

Total Members Polled: 151

I've had a Cayster: I'd buy a 718 T F4: 21%
Never had a Cayster: I'd buy a 718 T F4: 15%
I've had a Cayster: Would not buy a 718 T F4: 41%
Never had a Cayster: Would not buy a 718 T F4: 23%
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mollytherocker

14,366 posts

209 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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nsm3 said:
What is pointless, is commenting on an online poll, that you think is pointless.

Or am I missing something?
Its amazing how many people do this!

I comment on the threads I am interested in an skip the rest.

nsm3

2,831 posts

196 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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Agreed, but looking back, I think I have just hoisted meself, by my own petard?

Nick981

190 posts

100 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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in 10 years time everyone will be yearning for a petrol engined car - any petrol engine......

mollytherocker

14,366 posts

209 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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Nick981 said:
in 10 years time everyone will be yearning for a petrol engined car - any petrol engine......
Hopefully, thats 20 years away!

Bennachie

1,090 posts

151 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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Flat four turbos are great engines!

Scooby Doos have them and some Toyotas have them (albeit aftermarket turbo installs). There are also brilliant straight turbo fours...... I had a nice one in an RS Escort many aeons ago....

Porsche did have a diesel electric tank on the cards prior to the Tiger.........

mollytherocker

14,366 posts

209 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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Bennachie said:
Flat four turbos are great engines!

Scooby Doos have them and some Toyotas have them (albeit aftermarket turbo installs). There are also brilliant straight turbo fours...... I had a nice one in an RS Escort many aeons ago....

Porsche did have a diesel electric tank on the cards prior to the Tiger.........
I dont think anybody is arguing with any of that. One of my fave engines is the Ford BDA!

The point is whether they should be in a Porsche!

wdpor

259 posts

105 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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Bennachie said:
Flat four turbos are great engines!

Scooby Doos have them er.........
Forgive my ignorance I presume a "Scooby Doo" is a "Subaru" just as a "Ma Baws are Itchy" is a "Mitsubishi"

bcr5784

7,114 posts

145 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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mollytherocker said:
I dont think anybody is arguing with any of that. One of my fave engines is the Ford BDA!

The point is whether they should be in a Porsche!
The introduction of water cooling was greeted with horror by many - rather similar to when Ferraris went away from 12 cylinders (they didn't even dare call them Ferraris - it was Dino)

Given that Porsches of the past have had flat 4s, IL4s, V8s some with turbos some air cooled, some water cooled, they have far less grounds for horror than Ferrari owners. They'll get over it - just as Ferrari owners did.

vantagee8aml

1 posts

98 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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I have had 3 Boxsters a 986 followed by a 987.1 and a 987.2 S as daily drivers. All have never let me down and given me epic drives.
I am close to buying a new 981 but am now in a dilema - Should I wait until the 718 arrives - in my experience Porsche do have a habit of making something exceptional already even better. The exception was the 991 911. When it was launched having compared a 997 GTS I went for that over the 991 because of the way it drove. The 991 did look better but .....They had over sanitised the drive and oh yes the steering. I am about to drive next week the 991.2 with the new turbo engines- have they improved the dynamics over the first generation. I do hope so. I hope to drive it brings back some of the 997 feel.
The 981 interior seems great and the looks are good but I am still not convinced it's better than the 987 when it comes to driving. Is it just me ?
Watching the promo the 718 looks great I just hope it drives as good as its predecessors. What would you do - any help out there - go 981 or wait for the 718 or stick with my 987.2 ?Everyone happy with their 981 after a 987.2 ?

mollytherocker

14,366 posts

209 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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bcr5784 said:
The introduction of water cooling was greeted with horror by many - rather similar to when Ferraris went away from 12 cylinders (they didn't even dare call them Ferraris - it was Dino)

Given that Porsches of the past have had flat 4s, IL4s, V8s some with turbos some air cooled, some water cooled, they have far less grounds for horror than Ferrari owners. They'll get over it - just as Ferrari owners did.
I get your general point, but remind me again which Ferrari has a 4 cylinder engine?

bcr5784

7,114 posts

145 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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mollytherocker said:
I get your general point, but remind me again which Ferrari has a 4 cylinder engine?
Ferrari aficionados can play the heritage card (however spurious) - Porsche ones can't. If road going Ducatis (or HDs) were going to have MORE than to 2 (V) cylinders , American muscle cars were reduced to 6 cylinders? There would be (is) an outcry - but it's all a load of bks. A 4 cylinder is no worse because it is in a Porsche, any more than 6 cylinder engine is intrinsically because it's in a Mustang or Corvette.

DJMC

3,438 posts

103 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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vantagee8aml said:
I have had 3 Boxsters a 986 followed by a 987.1 and a 987.2 S as daily drivers. All have never let me down and given me epic drives.
I am close to buying a new 981 but am now in a dilema - Should I wait until the 718 arrives - in my experience Porsche do have a habit of making something exceptional already even better. The exception was the 991 911. When it was launched having compared a 997 GTS I went for that over the 991 because of the way it drove. The 991 did look better but .....They had over sanitised the drive and oh yes the steering. I am about to drive next week the 991.2 with the new turbo engines- have they improved the dynamics over the first generation. I do hope so. I hope to drive it brings back some of the 997 feel.
The 981 interior seems great and the looks are good but I am still not convinced it's better than the 987 when it comes to driving. Is it just me ?
Watching the promo the 718 looks great I just hope it drives as good as its predecessors. What would you do - any help out there - go 981 or wait for the 718 or stick with my 987.2 ?Everyone happy with their 981 after a 987.2 ?
I drove a couple of 987.2 2.9s in early 2014 but decided against purely on the interior feeling old and a little cramped for me at 6' 1".
I went TTS instead after much debate. But the TTS' dullness and peaky turbo four left me bored after 15 months. The only aural excitement it gave was the blap... blap... blap... at full acceleration but that was seldom achieved.
When the 981 fell within my grasp used, I tried 2.7 and S versions and preferred the former due, mainly, to the wonderful engine noise, both mechanical and exhaust, as lower road speeds. Being able to take the revs up to "whining" point is the thing that gives me most pleasure from this engine. Having listened to the Porsche videos of the new 718 models, with them burping and farting along and sounding like a tractor most of the time, I'm not sure the new engine could give me the same excitement, plus, despite its variable turbo technology I'm a little concerned about having that same peaky power delivery, but only a little as Porsche are good with turbos.
They may sound good at higher revs, but being more powerful than the 981 I wonder if this will mean higher revs are less useable?
There are some practical improvements, like the GT MFSW now with paddles and heating as standard, and other tech will have moved on too no doubt.
If this was to be your first Porsche, as mine is, you'd probably be delighted with the 718 all round, but having had a 997, perhaps the best of the 911 models so far, and your 987.2, you may miss the soundtrack and steering. I'd say wait for the 718 to hit the showrooms and drive one back to back with a 981 and your 987.2.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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bcr5784 said:
....any more than 6 cylinder engine is intrinsically bad because it's in a .... Corvette.
You'd need some powerful binoculars to spot one of those, wouldn't you?

4-bangers in Porsches have been positively common in comparison. 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, 1990s - possibly not 2000s - but back again in 2010s.