Discussion
Twinfan said:
Compare to the same folk driving a Cayman GTS - there's no comparison!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8zoG7dZmpE
A great car the Cayman GTS, I had the privilege of a day in the passenger seat of a CGTS though the Alps last year and it was a very impressive car.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8zoG7dZmpE
The pace, noise and ride are all excellent and the GTS interior with the carbon and red stitching is just a great place to be.
In fact one of my favorite cars that I've been in.
Here's the S: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQqO8DUQTlg
That bassy drone is likely to get very tiring on the ears...
That bassy drone is likely to get very tiring on the ears...
Twinfan said:
Here's the S: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQqO8DUQTlg
That bassy drone is likely to get very tiring on the ears...
It really depends how loud it really is - 911Rs exhaust would do my head in if was anything like as loud has his clip sounds. I still think the non-sports exhaust base 718 sounds absolutely fine to me, but the pops and crackles spoil both on the youtube clips.That bassy drone is likely to get very tiring on the ears...
Edited by bcr5784 on Friday 5th February 10:57
In my head I have a mental picture of two of it's original six conrods flapping around in smashed up cylinder liners, with the pistons and remains of the valve timing kit flailing round in fresh air, as the engine leaves the last of it's vital fluids in a trail on the ground. Awful.
Or perhaps it's an old Land Rover that hasn't seen an MOT station in twenty years, some old 1930's GP car, or an extremely unwell Subaru. Either way, it does not sound like a Porsche. And those stupid farty popping sounds would get right on my tits too.
What a shame.
Or perhaps it's an old Land Rover that hasn't seen an MOT station in twenty years, some old 1930's GP car, or an extremely unwell Subaru. Either way, it does not sound like a Porsche. And those stupid farty popping sounds would get right on my tits too.
What a shame.
Dr S said:
That pops and crackle stuff is typically heard on engines that don't really sound that great. Who needs such contrived stuff on a Mezger?
I think it's a simple fact that a lot of people like them - or why else would anyone spec PSE, which is one of the most popular options. anonymous said:
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Agreed - I was flamed for describing PSE as an engineering abortion. But, that said things are getting blurred at the edges. Piping induction noise into the cabin may not be quite as fake as amplifying and filtering that noise and feeding into to cabin via the speaker system - but it's getting close, and I'm sure if you did it well enough you couldn't tell the difference.Edited by bcr5784 on Friday 5th February 19:29
Porsche have been manufacturing noise for a long time to some degree. Whether it be mechanical, electronic, fuel or by many other ways.
I think this is why racing cars give me wood. Its pure. Its just the sound of power. No fripperies.
But the cynical programming of the ecu to over fuel on a closing throttle to ape a carburettor makes me wince.
I think this is why racing cars give me wood. Its pure. Its just the sound of power. No fripperies.
But the cynical programming of the ecu to over fuel on a closing throttle to ape a carburettor makes me wince.
mollytherocker said:
Porsche have been manufacturing noise for a long time to some degree. Whether it be mechanical, electronic, fuel or by many other ways.
I think this is why racing cars give me wood. Its pure. Its just the sound of power. No fripperies.
But the cynical programming of the ecu to over fuel on a closing throttle to ape a carburettor makes me wince.
Spot on sir. I think this is why racing cars give me wood. Its pure. Its just the sound of power. No fripperies.
But the cynical programming of the ecu to over fuel on a closing throttle to ape a carburettor makes me wince.
mollytherocker said:
Porsche have been manufacturing noise for a long time to some degree. Whether it be mechanical, electronic, fuel or by many other ways.
I think this is why racing cars give me wood. Its pure. Its just the sound of power. No fripperies.
But the cynical programming of the ecu to over fuel on a closing throttle to ape a carburettor makes me wince.
Agreed. But remember racers don't give a damn what the car sounds like - if it's a tenth of a second quicker it can sound like a bag of nails or a hoover - the stop watch is the only arbiter of quality.I think this is why racing cars give me wood. Its pure. Its just the sound of power. No fripperies.
But the cynical programming of the ecu to over fuel on a closing throttle to ape a carburettor makes me wince.
bcr5784 said:
Agreed. But remember racers don't give a damn what the car sounds like - if it's a tenth of a second quicker it can sound like a bag of nails or a hoover - the stop watch is the only arbiter of quality.
Oh, of course, yes. And of course the truth is that a good racing car is truly horrible to drive.And yet, many racing cars sound incredible. Why is that? Because they are sans compromise.
Fartastic.
Never thought our beloved Porsche would produce something that takes the German name for it 'auspuff' and somehow manages to make that bit of the car sound like how its name sounds in English.
Both models sound worse and more chav than my Megane. Oh well at least if I buy that 987.2 Cayman I keep promising myself it should hold its value for a long time to come.
Never thought our beloved Porsche would produce something that takes the German name for it 'auspuff' and somehow manages to make that bit of the car sound like how its name sounds in English.
Both models sound worse and more chav than my Megane. Oh well at least if I buy that 987.2 Cayman I keep promising myself it should hold its value for a long time to come.
mollytherocker said:
Carl_Manchester said:
I like it.
I need to hear it in person.
From the samples I prefer it to the 991.2's sound.
Its all subjective and there is no right or wrong, but seriously? The 991.2 is more muffled than its predecessor for obvious reasons, but its still a 6!I need to hear it in person.
From the samples I prefer it to the 991.2's sound.
991.2 probably better when I am ragging its arse right on my way to a short prison stretch.
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