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julian987R said:
Nurburgsingh said:
julian987R said:
Well what do we have here...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202209089...
Lovely huh. F*&King loadsamoney. Low miles.
FTFYhttps://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202209089...
Lovely huh. F*&King loadsamoney. Low miles.
we'll have to agree to disagree as it seems a fair price to me. LennyM1984 said:
J-P said:
I mean I bought a 997 GTS because it was a basically a Sport Classic.
Off on a bit of a tangent here but when the Sports Classic first came out, my dad's friend bought one (he had recently come into some money) and used it as a daily driver for a while. I don't think he particularly cared for the fact that it was a limited edition, he just liked it. He used to regularly drive it to the pub and leave it out in the car park next to the old bangers driven by half blind old men (deep dark cotswolds, lots of old farmers, lots of drink driving!).He now drives a 987.1 Cayman...
julian987R said:
Barking mad to pay £53k for that in this market!AAAndy said:
tracydeedance said:
And this is the one that is now in my care. Funny how so many of the cars are passed through people on this forum. 
I’ll be sure to be taking it on a few more roads trips this year, definitely at least one to Wales and another 4 day trip around Scotland in June.
PaulD86 said:
frayz said:
That's just it though isn't it, if you hang on every word of someone on the internet then you need to take a step back and have a chat with yourself lol. You have to pick the bones out of everyone's comments both in person but especially online. I try not to take it all too seriously.
This is utter sense. People also need to remember that we all write differently from how we behave face to face. I liked a lot of Davids contributions, though firmly disagreed with others. Snow foam, for example. He had his views, but there was usually at least an element of truth to them and he didn't just write drivel for the sake of it. PaulD86 said:
J-P said:
That's true. He did occasionally write utter drivel though and wouldn't accept that he might have made a mistake. GT3 MC upgrade was a classic (for example).
Ah the good of GT3 MC debate - haven't had that one on here for a while 
I actually think that might be an example of one of his views where he had something of a point, but was somewhat OTT in how he put it across. He used to call it a "mask" and, logically, I can see why that might be correct. Reading all the posts from various contributors on this, and thinking about it with whatever limited technical understanding I have, it would appear that it's a mod which would change pedal feel rather than actually the cars potential braking performance. I can see why a firmer pedal and change in feel may be desirable, and I'd actually like to drive a car with the mod to compare the feel as if I preferred it, I'd do it. But I can also see where it seemed he was coming from when he called it a mask. I'd be interested in a technical analysis of the mod - anyone on here in motoring engineering.... I'm look of you @frayz
Slippydiff said:
frayz said:
PaulD86 said:
Ah the good of GT3 MC debate - haven't had that one on here for a while
I actually think that might be an example of one of his views where he had something of a point, but was somewhat OTT in how he put it across. He used to call it a "mask" and, logically, I can see why that might be correct. Reading all the posts from various contributors on this, and thinking about it with whatever limited technical understanding I have, it would appear that it's a mod which would change pedal feel rather than actually the cars potential braking performance. I can see why a firmer pedal and change in feel may be desirable, and I'd actually like to drive a car with the mod to compare the feel as if I preferred it, I'd do it. But I can also see where it seemed he was coming from when he called it a mask. I'd be interested in a technical analysis of the mod - anyone on here in motoring engineering.... I'm look of you @frayz
Haha, love the old GT3MC chat. As you say, hes right in that it does potentially mask an issue but changes the feel. I actually think that might be an example of one of his views where he had something of a point, but was somewhat OTT in how he put it across. He used to call it a "mask" and, logically, I can see why that might be correct. Reading all the posts from various contributors on this, and thinking about it with whatever limited technical understanding I have, it would appear that it's a mod which would change pedal feel rather than actually the cars potential braking performance. I can see why a firmer pedal and change in feel may be desirable, and I'd actually like to drive a car with the mod to compare the feel as if I preferred it, I'd do it. But I can also see where it seemed he was coming from when he called it a mask. I'd be interested in a technical analysis of the mod - anyone on here in motoring engineering.... I'm look of you @frayz
In basic terms the larger piston in the GT3 MC means it can shift a greater amount of fluid with less pedal movement as thus takes any slack out of the system quicker and will give a much firmer pedal. This firmer pedal is created because you are using a larger MS, which means you have to add more pedal pressure to create the same amount of system fluid pressure.
This is because you now have a larger piston area so the force required will need to be greater.
Force over a large area = lower pressure vs force over a smaller area = greater pressure.
Hope that makes sense.
But for what it's worth, Porsche have been "masking" the issues with the brakes on their GT cars for years ...
And rightly or wrongly, I do tend to trust what the engineering bods at Stuttgart do, rather than relying on the frequent rants of a keyboard warrior with a split personality on PH (yes, I met him twice at the RS day at Oulton, and as others have said, he was the very antithesis of the opinionated keyboard warrior we experienced for years on PH)I did the M/C swap on my R, the end result with new pads and discs and Endless fluid, completely changed the feel of the pedal, and in turn my confidence in the system's ability to haul the car down from big speeds without snapping the brake pedal or bending the bulkhead ...
Granted some of that would have been down to the new discs/pads and freshly bled brakes/decent fluid, but the M/C mod only shortened the travel further and I suspect made it firmer too, and that for me was the gamechanger, there's nothing worse than a soggy/long travel pedal when you're trying to lose large chunks of speed in a hurry .
ks. Actus Reus said:
Yep - ultimately that's why I'm not going to message Ashgood about the car. The search, half-heartedly, continues (probably for a Spyder).
If you're looking for Spyder, there is this:https://www.ashgood.co.uk/vehicle-details/Porsche-...
Saw this and thought - they're right about the 'R"
https://www.evo.co.uk/used-cars/20731/best-used-ca...
https://www.evo.co.uk/used-cars/20731/best-used-ca...
MrVert said:
That is lovely! Punchy on price though.
PaulD86 said:
J-P said:
MrVert said:
That is lovely! Punchy on price though. I said last year I didn't see it selling at that price and it still being for sale suggests that may have been a reasonable prediction. Good luck to him. Gassing Station | Boxster/Cayman | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff