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V800MJH said:
Dan911 said:
£780 got mine done for... Haggle man Haggle.
Hehe nice price you got.I would have massively haggled it down, but I've already got the entire major service cost out of that for free (£610ish). So couldn't then try and haggle down anymore or I might be told where to go.
£1100 was the total price. Cost to me personally is £480 ish.
Pagoda1966 said:
Porsche911R said:
I
big 4 imo for resale, a car will sell if it has these 4 items, in fact most cars sell off line, my new car was NOT advertised.
Manual (yes a few want PDK but on the whole people are now after manual R''s) means you can get a deal on a PDK though and way more choice.
Buckets
Spyder wheels
AC
the next 4 are
PSE
Sports crono (again nice on both models does make a change on PDK change , can be retro fitted for £800, I like the faster throttle though it gives)
SS (paddles if PDK over buttons)
Blue tooth (should be law in any car, yes I do answer a phone it's a must have for me anyway)
the dream 3 big money extras and very rare.
Leather dash
PCCB just to get the bigger calipers
Xenons
circa 40 UK cars made with the main 4 items I would guess"
Useful summary - is this the most spec sensitive car ever or what ?! Personally, I'd take PSE over AC but I can't argue with the market. Is SS short shift ? I notice that you don't mention colour - does that just come down to personal preference ? By an absolute fluke (I did no research beforehand and just bought on condition, mileage and colour - white), I seem to have a low mileage car with your magic 8. Reading your comments, this must be one of only a few dozen similar cars. Might rethink my plans to take it to the Nurburgring this year and tuck it away .....!
Definitely take it to the 'ring - It's well worth it. My car performed amazingly well at the 'ring. Once I have the MPSC2 on, I want to do a few track days and see how much of a difference it makes.big 4 imo for resale, a car will sell if it has these 4 items, in fact most cars sell off line, my new car was NOT advertised.
Manual (yes a few want PDK but on the whole people are now after manual R''s) means you can get a deal on a PDK though and way more choice.
Buckets
Spyder wheels
AC
the next 4 are
PSE
Sports crono (again nice on both models does make a change on PDK change , can be retro fitted for £800, I like the faster throttle though it gives)
SS (paddles if PDK over buttons)
Blue tooth (should be law in any car, yes I do answer a phone it's a must have for me anyway)
the dream 3 big money extras and very rare.
Leather dash
PCCB just to get the bigger calipers
Xenons
circa 40 UK cars made with the main 4 items I would guess"
Useful summary - is this the most spec sensitive car ever or what ?! Personally, I'd take PSE over AC but I can't argue with the market. Is SS short shift ? I notice that you don't mention colour - does that just come down to personal preference ? By an absolute fluke (I did no research beforehand and just bought on condition, mileage and colour - white), I seem to have a low mileage car with your magic 8. Reading your comments, this must be one of only a few dozen similar cars. Might rethink my plans to take it to the Nurburgring this year and tuck it away .....!
junglist said:
New owner here as of today. Need to get some stone chips sorted and a correction detail done and one wheel needs a refurb but I plan to use it as a daily 2 or 3 weeks per month so won't be stuck in the garage too much.
Spec:
Black
Manual
Buckets
PSE
Chrono
Spiders
AC
Rear parking sensors
Aux input
Cup holders
2 years Porsche warranty
I don't have Nav but not bothered. What I would have liked would be alcantara steering wheel and gearshift gaiter but I have leather and also no Xenons (first world problem right there!).
Cheers
Very nice! Looks like mine but mine has black spyder alloys. Looking forward to having the cup 2s on it!Spec:
Black
Manual
Buckets
PSE
Chrono
Spiders
AC
Rear parking sensors
Aux input
Cup holders
2 years Porsche warranty
I don't have Nav but not bothered. What I would have liked would be alcantara steering wheel and gearshift gaiter but I have leather and also no Xenons (first world problem right there!).
Cheers
Dan911 said:
Going to put a set of tyres on mine in the next few weeks.
Would Cup's be ok for warranty being N- Rated??
If they're n rated then no problem. If they're not, Keep your old tyres (as long as they have enough tread). If there are any issues, then swap your cups back for any warranty work.Would Cup's be ok for warranty being N- Rated??
boxsey said:
junglist said:
After having done my first 200 miles in the R today I have some questions:
Can you get larger lumber pads for the buckets? I see that the standard thin one is attached by velcro. My back is killing.
Can the tilt angle of the seat be adjusted on the base sliders?
I've always found with bucket seats that you need to sit just a little bit closer to the steering than with a comfort seat. Sit too far back and you'll be subconsciously stretching to reach the pedals and/or steering wheel which will lead to strain on your lower back.Can you get larger lumber pads for the buckets? I see that the standard thin one is attached by velcro. My back is killing.
Can the tilt angle of the seat be adjusted on the base sliders?
Edited by J-P on Monday 4th April 21:24
Porsche911R said:
not really, understeer city and PSM on the 987.2 car is very very fussy and your speedo will be more out !
you have changed the front rolling dia by 22mm but the rear by 45mm, and now under tyred on the front and way over tyred on the rear.
you may have also induced neg rake as the new tyre will drop the rear more than the front, when the car really needs more positive rake ie dropping the front more.
again results = less steering feel and more understeer again !!!
+1you have changed the front rolling dia by 22mm but the rear by 45mm, and now under tyred on the front and way over tyred on the rear.
you may have also induced neg rake as the new tyre will drop the rear more than the front, when the car really needs more positive rake ie dropping the front more.
again results = less steering feel and more understeer again !!!
Pagoda1966 said:
Manual Cayman R for sale with PCCB is a rare site, and with xenons nice spec.
http://www.cameronsportscars.com/used-vehicle-deta...
Wow, full house, other than a touch higher miles than you'd hope for, perfect spec car and not bad price ?
I agree - it made me wonder if it's an ex press car. Can't be many people who'd spec it like that from new, looks like virtually every significant box ticked for a purist spec car - nice!http://www.cameronsportscars.com/used-vehicle-deta...
Wow, full house, other than a touch higher miles than you'd hope for, perfect spec car and not bad price ?
I got mine serviced today - good job by the guys at West Byfleet and I was OK with the price in the end. I really do love my car now though - it took a while to really gel with it but I'm not sure I want to change it - they had a GT4 in the showroom - £100k??? Simply not worth the switch - I can get that new Mini JCW Challenge, keep my car and still have change for that kind of cash. For the money, there isn't much to compare with the R IMHO. Looking forward to getting the cup 2s on it and trying it on track now.
I think that it's a car that takes a while to really gel with. However, once you've spent some serious wheel time in it, you realise that it is just an excellent car, beautifully balanced, superbly well-judged suspension, lovely flat six howl, and just a great spec. Only car in of its generation with a passive Porsche-tuned sports suspension.
Interesting - I drove the S pretty extensively before getting the R and didn't like it as much. It's not enormously different but it's certainly enough for me to notice. I reckon the R is at least 5% better in every area. Although I freely admit I'm somewhat unusual. I drove a 981, 981s and a 981GTS back to back on track and thought they could well have been 3 completely different cars.
fridaypassion said:
Well thats the essence of a forum isnt it? You can express your view on something. My view was educated and unbiased which is a rare nugget in the world of the interwebz. If someone wants to do some research on the R they will find lots of positive stuff on this thread and some Northern fella saying they are a bit Meh. People can make there own minds up. But the constant stream of gushing praise is not representative IMO.
PDK might well be ruinous for a drivers car but I would counter that by saying that a properly ultra focused drivers car might not have a Cayman badge on it at all. I have a VX220 thats a vasty superior Sunday driving type road car and an Elise with a Honda Engine in it thats a vastly better track car than a CR. I wouldnt want either of those cars to have an automatic box but the Cayman been more of a daily driver type car suits it. Each to their own but I'm not telling anyone else they are wrong. They are but I'm not saying it explicitly
Apart from just then obviously I like Elises, a mate of mine has an Exige Sprint and I think it's a wonderful bit of kit. I don't like it as much as the R though. On track that flat six wail behind your head, great gearbox and superb balance make for a huge amount of fun and then on the way home, you still have a vastly superior road car to travel home in. So you're wrong, the R is better PDK might well be ruinous for a drivers car but I would counter that by saying that a properly ultra focused drivers car might not have a Cayman badge on it at all. I have a VX220 thats a vasty superior Sunday driving type road car and an Elise with a Honda Engine in it thats a vastly better track car than a CR. I wouldnt want either of those cars to have an automatic box but the Cayman been more of a daily driver type car suits it. Each to their own but I'm not telling anyone else they are wrong. They are but I'm not saying it explicitly
fridaypassion said:
Ah the Exgie Sprint. Must be quite a sight as it comes past you on the outside
You have a better paint job thats for sure
Or not... this is us at the 'ring - enjoy!You have a better paint job thats for sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO8q_SyCZ2U
boxsey said:
That might be your opinion but I'll wager the R owners in this thread did not buy an R because of its rarity. We bought them because they're more focused, more edgy and feel more special than the bog standard S. There are plenty owners that have pointed out these characteristics in their posts in this thread. But keep trying to put the R down...someone might eventually believe you!
I had no idea how rare the R would be when I bought it. I got it because for me it sounded like a close to perfect spec and as Boxsey says more focused and edgy. I think it's a very compelling proposition.
n17ves said:
I have to say I don’t agree with the whole Cayman R being too hard for the road and actually thought it was the perfect compromise, but then I always thought my VX220 was far to crashy on the oem bilsteins (I know Jon wont agree with this) and my exige on nitrons was just ridiculous, even after I had them rebuilt with softer springs and revised dampening for road/track use.
At the end of the day it’s all very subjective, although I’ve not driven the magical unicorn so that could be the game changer!
I agree - R is nigh on perfect compromise for me in terms of ride/handling balance. I don't mind the Exige's ride but it is definitely firmer than than the R beautifully damped though, so that's about as firm as I could live with day to day. Tried a GTR a few years ago and I just couldn't live with that level of firmness and I'd end up speeding to make it more comfortable.At the end of the day it’s all very subjective, although I’ve not driven the magical unicorn so that could be the game changer!
anonymous said:
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Chaps - stay on target. There's no point in debating a subjective view of GT3 VS Cayman R. What I find interesting is that whenever the R is discussed, the GT3 comes up at some point. Goes to show what high esteem the R is held in if it takes a Porsche Motorsport car to compare it with, when in reality it's just a good road car that can occasionally be taken on track.Gassing Station | Boxster/Cayman | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff