Rusty caliper "bolts" - Warranty item?
Discussion
DJMC said:
Mousem40 said:
It doesn't look like it's available as a spare part from Porsche
See p.96+ in the Porsche Parts Catalogue (PET) Cayman 2009 onwards version below
http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf/originalparts...
Thanks for the link, But I can't see a p.96? Are you saying it shows the 987 has captive nuts and this is why they're irreplaceable, as has been suggested? See p.96+ in the Porsche Parts Catalogue (PET) Cayman 2009 onwards version below
http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf/originalparts...
Yes they are shown as captive nuts, Porsche don't have a part number for them so wouldn't be able to replace them for you. .
Not commenting whether or not the rusty bolts should be complained about....
.... But the thing that surprises me is that it has been designed with the ugly bolt facing out. Looking at the 987 calipers on the spyder it has a nice flush finish, no bolt in sight. If it is the case you can't remove them anyway then it looks an ugly solution.
.... But the thing that surprises me is that it has been designed with the ugly bolt facing out. Looking at the 987 calipers on the spyder it has a nice flush finish, no bolt in sight. If it is the case you can't remove them anyway then it looks an ugly solution.
Trev450 said:
If you speak with Ian at Godspeed - http://www.godspeedbrakes.co.uk/ I'm sure he will be able to either supply new bolts or tell you where to obtain some.
I have no affiliation with this company, but have experienced good service from them.
Spoke to them, but they've never worked on this calliper so couldn't help, other than to say it looks odd that the calliper has to be removed for pad replacement. More work for the OPC???I have no affiliation with this company, but have experienced good service from them.
Brembo Italy replied saying go to Porsche. Very helpful!
Brakecaliperspecialists.UK ( http://www.brakecaliperspecialists.uk ) responded:
"Hi David,
Porsche are completely wrong and you are quite right, they don't hold the caliper together. The bolts are not available to buy anywhere unfortunately.
The fading black is due to the calipers being anodised, which is essentially corrosion which has been dyed, the corrosion is then supposed to stop moisture getting through to the aluminium so that they don't corrode. It looks nice when it is new, but the finish doesn't last long.
I can suggest a service which will solve both of your problems and give you a 2 year warranty on the finish of the caliper, although in real life they will last much longer.
Our high-end caliper painting service (see here: http://www.brakecaliperspecialists.uk/brake-calipe... ) costs £249 for a set of 4 calipers and we can paint them in any colour you can imagine, although we have matches ready to go for Porsche red, black and carbon ceramic yellow.
I hope this helps, all the best.
Richard"
Hmmm....
DJMC said:
Brakecaliperspecialists.UK ( http://www.brakecaliperspecialists.uk ) responded:
The fading black is due to the calipers being anodised, which is essentially corrosion which has been dyed, the corrosion is then supposed to stop moisture getting through to the aluminium so that they don't corrode. It looks nice when it is new, but the finish doesn't last long.
This is not correct !!!The fading black is due to the calipers being anodised, which is essentially corrosion which has been dyed, the corrosion is then supposed to stop moisture getting through to the aluminium so that they don't corrode. It looks nice when it is new, but the finish doesn't last long.
...or just take the wheel off, clean and repair. Probably an hour at most, including tea breaks!
Numerous people agree that having a visible rusty bolt is not aesthetically pleasing. Me too!
However, this is a second hand car you bought after all, with no guarantee of how it has been previously treated (wheels, tyres, brakes etc).
To that end, I still fail to see that, as you cannot guarantee the car's history, how this can be a considered a warrantee claim.
That said, with your ingrained tenacity and willingness to sue at the earliest opportunity, I'm sure Porsche GB will replace your car with a new one.
I'd probably take a GT4 if there is one going.
Numerous people agree that having a visible rusty bolt is not aesthetically pleasing. Me too!
However, this is a second hand car you bought after all, with no guarantee of how it has been previously treated (wheels, tyres, brakes etc).
To that end, I still fail to see that, as you cannot guarantee the car's history, how this can be a considered a warrantee claim.
That said, with your ingrained tenacity and willingness to sue at the earliest opportunity, I'm sure Porsche GB will replace your car with a new one.
I'd probably take a GT4 if there is one going.
Simo_UK said:
That said, with your ingrained tenacity and willingness to sue at the earliest opportunity, I'm sure Porsche GB will replace your car with a new one.
I'd probably take a GT4 if there is one going.
Could you expand on this theory and explain your thinking as to why Porsche GB would consider replacing my car with a new one, or a GT4, in relation to my issue with a rusty bolt head please?I'd probably take a GT4 if there is one going.
I fail to understand why they would do this?
woollyjoe said:
All wheel cleaners (i've seen) are acidic or alkaline. the more acidic or alkaline they are, the more corrosive they can be.
The most likely issue with wheel cleaner is when it is left on too long or not rinsed properly.
Dealerships like wheel cleaner because it cleans the wheels quickly. If it was owned by OPC for 6 months (likely under the goverment tax scheme) then it was likely to be a dealer principle car (if Porsche owned dealership) meaning it might hve seen a lot of cleaning. It may also explain excessive wear on paint finish.
It was a Porsche GB head office car, but the same applies, anything could have happened to the wheels when being cleaned by Porsche but it's unlikely they'd say "Ah... yes... it was ourselves that abused the wheels and calipers when we owned the car so that would explain the rust and fading paint. The most likely issue with wheel cleaner is when it is left on too long or not rinsed properly.
Dealerships like wheel cleaner because it cleans the wheels quickly. If it was owned by OPC for 6 months (likely under the goverment tax scheme) then it was likely to be a dealer principle car (if Porsche owned dealership) meaning it might hve seen a lot of cleaning. It may also explain excessive wear on paint finish.
They're more likely to want to hush this up and blame me or the prior owner.
DJMC said:
Simo_UK said:
That said, with your ingrained tenacity and willingness to sue at the earliest opportunity, I'm sure Porsche GB will replace your car with a new one.
I'd probably take a GT4 if there is one going.
Could you expand on this theory and explain your thinking as to why Porsche GB would consider replacing my car with a new one, or a GT4, in relation to my issue with a rusty bolt head please?I'd probably take a GT4 if there is one going.
I fail to understand why they would do this?
DJMC said:
Simo_UK said:
That said, with your ingrained tenacity and willingness to sue at the earliest opportunity, I'm sure Porsche GB will replace your car with a new one.
I'd probably take a GT4 if there is one going.
Could you expand on this theory and explain your thinking as to why Porsche GB would consider replacing my car with a new one, or a GT4, in relation to my issue with a rusty bolt head please?I'd probably take a GT4 if there is one going.
I fail to understand why they would do this?
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