718 review - test drove today
Discussion
Mario149 said:
Well, I suppose some sort of silver lining to take away from all that is at least there's now a concrete difference between the quality of the motor and its delivery in the Cayster compared to the 911 now, so if you stump for the base 911 at least you'll feel like you're properly getting more for your money rather than just an ECU tweak.
True. But I don't think that put off any 911 buyers. In any case, the 3.4 in the 991 is a lot nicer than the 3.4 in the Cayster (whatever the differences on paper). bcr5784 said:
The reason is simple - the 991 doesn't have a hole in the midrange - the 981 does.
Sorry for going off topic but I'm surprised at how long each of those three engine maintain their max torque. Is this a Turbo thing? I've always thought max torque was at a very specific revs.Those are NA engines. Usually a good modern NA engine will have a flatish torque plateau in which there is a little spike (see the 991 3.4 with the little rise), but they can also be tuned to have an almost perfectly flat torque plateau over a long rev range. Torque used to be peakier in NA engines from what I have seen, but the trend has been to increase mid-range power by having a flatter torque profile and for it to be higher lower in the rev range.
A lot of modern turbos have entirely flat and very long peak torque plateaus.
A lot of modern turbos have entirely flat and very long peak torque plateaus.
ORD said:
Not for me. It's because the 991 has a stronger top end - torque drops off higher in the rev range.
If you look at the 981 GTS top end it's actually pretty much the same as the Carrera from 6000 on - both with 380nm at that point. The only real differences are the mini peak at 5600 (390nm) which the Carrera has and the mid range hole the 981 has.OK, I had a drive in the new Boxster S today,
If I was looking for a new £50k sportscar would I buy one? Yes, although probably the base model and not the S.
Would I willingly trade in a 981 for an otherwise identical 718? No, I don't think I would. I'm enjoying my 6-pot manual.
- It's very much a Mk2 version of the 981 - no surprises there.
- Various little refinements have been made but overall it's the same car and drives nicely.
- They tell me 95% the cars they sell are PDK - as was the demonstrator.
- Lots of buttons on the steering wheel, including "sport response"
- It's a very quick sports car.
- The wail has gone, replaced by a "thrum".
- There is a slight delay when you open the taps.
- You can push the sport response button ready for action but I prefer to click down a gear with the paddles.
- I'm not surprised the manual gearbox isn't selling. I suspect PDK is well matched to the new engine's character.
If I was looking for a new £50k sportscar would I buy one? Yes, although probably the base model and not the S.
Would I willingly trade in a 981 for an otherwise identical 718? No, I don't think I would. I'm enjoying my 6-pot manual.
Ozzie Osmond said:
If I was looking for a new £50k sportscar would I buy one? Yes, although probably the base model and not the S.
Had my Spyder in the OPC for some roof adjustment yesterday.They have a Lava Orange 718 S on the floor, fully loaded (expect for PCCB's).
With a RRP of.......... over £73K
Or 6k more than my Spyder cost me
Boxster7 said:
They have a Lava Orange 718 S on the floor, fully loaded (expect for PCCB's).
With a RRP of.......... over £73K
Yes, as a tight-wad of the old school I'm always astounded by just how expensive these cars become in showroom spec'. Hence my comment that the base car looks like a decent opportunity for buyers. I do think that at these elevated prices for 4-cylinder Porsches the Lotus range deserves a look by more prospective customers. You can be into a supercharged V6 for similar money, albeit without a jiggy 9-second roof. I think that latest Evora 400 is about the same price as the Boxster S you mentioned.With a RRP of.......... over £73K
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