718 review - test drove today
Discussion
Dyffed said:
Sustenpass said:
Ah but who cares, the handling is marginally better and the nav is prettier.
If you think that is the only improvement then my guess is you haven't driven the new car.I saw one up close at Tonbridge Porsche, the interior has been spruced up a tad but not night and day improved to leave me feeling that I'm now slumming it in my 981 Cayman S.
At the end of the day it's all a personal thing. The 718 is a tad quicker here and there, the performance is easier to get at and for a lot of people getting the latest thing with a little extra go and no problem with the engine and the noise it makes it will be perfect.
Me, I don't care if it's a little faster, the PCM has been updated or that it handles a smidgen better. The 718 hasn't rendered the 981 a bad buy or obsolete. I bought a 981 for the F6. I've had it for 2 plus months so I could've waited for a 718 Cayman S. On start up, mooching around and pressing on it sounds the proper sports car. And that's BEFORE hitting the sports exhaust button. Some are speccing the PSE on the 718 in the hope of getting some semblance of sporty noise along with them. The F6, it's built in. It's standard.
The video posted earlier of the 718 Cayman... the sound just doesn't come close.
As I say though.. All personal choice. Whatever you buy, as long as you're getting what you want, it's all good.
Now if the 718 had a F6.........
Edited by HighwayStar on Thursday 14th July 10:39
Sparkyhd said:
@Dyffed - looks great. Are those the 19inch wheels?
@undred orse - also looks great. The red roof is a bit brighter than I was expecting. The photo below has yours overlaid on the configurator. In reality which photo is nearer the true colour?
I've got a red roof on my DBM 981 Boxster GTS, it rarely photographs well in bright sunlight as it always looks a few shades lighter than it is. Luckily in real life it looks stonking @undred orse - also looks great. The red roof is a bit brighter than I was expecting. The photo below has yours overlaid on the configurator. In reality which photo is nearer the true colour?
HighwayStar said:
edo said:
Sounds great to me, but of course, CHANGE!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y7mqH31-qE
Great?!!! It doesn't to me...
Question, if you think the 718 sounds great, what do you think of the sound of the 981?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wk28sxMcyc
HighwayStar said:
I'm not a fan of the in your face 'P O R S C H E' treatment under the spoiler.
Quite. I removed the silly 'P O R S C H E' from the boot lid of my 981.I can understand them writing the name on the back of a totally bland SUVs but don't see the need for it on what are obviously Porsche sportscars.
anonymous said:
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The "purists" would draw your attention to the yawning gap between ANY assisted system and an unassisted system. But without power assistance a car on modern suspension and tyres would need some serious arm-wrestling!IMO if someone was put in a car they'd never driven before and challenged with the question, "Is the steering electric or hydraulic?", it would be a hard question to answer.
What will be interesting about 718 is to see the statistics about how many are sold with a manual gearbox. I think it may be a very, very small proportion.
Ozzie Osmond said:
What will be interesting about 718 is to see the statistics about how many are sold with a manual gearbox. I think it may be a very, very small proportion.
Agreed. With the auto-blip added to sport mode (leaving 'normal' as the only mode without it) the car has clearly been made for PDK.Ozzie is right about the weight of the steering. I had PAS fail in my Cayman once. I wouldnt fancy driving one of these cars along a twisty B-road for long without any assistance. I remember needing both arms and a bit of body lean to get around a mini roundabout.
EPAS is usually pretty horrendous and obviously different from and worse than HPAS, but I am told it has got much better in the 718. Then again, journos keep saying that lag has been eradicated and it always turns out they have lied.
EPAS is usually pretty horrendous and obviously different from and worse than HPAS, but I am told it has got much better in the 718. Then again, journos keep saying that lag has been eradicated and it always turns out they have lied.
They also start from the bizarre proposition that the steering feel can be worse than Porsche HPAS but still excellent. That's rubbish - the steering in a 986 or 987 is very nice (but not excellent), and the steering in a 996 or 997 is slightly less good than that. Not such a high standard that a car can fall well short of it and still deserve praise for its feel.
ORD said:
Ozzie is right about the weight of the steering. I had PAS fail in my Cayman once. I wouldnt fancy driving one of these cars along a twisty B-road for long without any assistance. I remember needing both arms and a bit of body lean to get around a mini roundabout.
Regarding unassisted steering weight you have to remember that in days prior to power steering cars ran far less caster - sometimes zero to make the steering lighter. The Cayman runs a whopping 8 degrees which would be unthinkable without power steering on a car that heavy.bcr5784 said:
Regarding unassisted steering weight you have to remember that in days prior to power steering cars ran far less caster - sometimes zero to make the steering lighter. The Cayman runs a whopping 8 degrees which would be unthinkable without power steering on a car that heavy.
Yes, the whole geometry/tyre size equation has changed massively over the years.ooid said:
congrats the new owners, I think 718 looks much smaller I like it.
Is there any particular reason about the higher black skirt? why is it more higher and visible now? 981 had this black skirt too but it was not that much visible. 986 and 987 never had it, at least this size. Weight?
I don't like the plastics as none of them seem to be as light fast as they should be. No issue if you chop the car in at yr 2 or 3 but I tend to keep them till they're elderly. When black plastic has become unevenly grey and ugly.Is there any particular reason about the higher black skirt? why is it more higher and visible now? 981 had this black skirt too but it was not that much visible. 986 and 987 never had it, at least this size. Weight?
Still maybe Porsche have built this out of black unobtainium.
Ozzie Osmond said:
I love the styling of the rear of both 918 and 718 - so much more of a "wide and low" look than the older bar-of-soap cars. In fact, to my personal taste these cars look neater than the spyder with its bulky humps.
I wonder what will be regarded as the quintessential shape Boxtser in 100 years? Design purity or simply purty?Gassing Station | Boxster/Cayman | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff