Nurburgring in under 5 minutes possible?
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After watching old Nick tip toe around the ring a few years ago, it was estimated by the BMW engineers a full time attack would be in the region of 5:20. If you could find the most suicidal of drivers, along with the best F1 car, setup so that it was perfect for the track, would a sub 5 minute be possible?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA2yYohW1Vs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA2yYohW1Vs
Someone like schumacher, raikkonen or montoya in their 2004 state and cars would be a good shot, pretty much every lap record on a non-new F1 track is a 2004 car
But the gap between a 2004 and a 2007 F1 car on melbourne is only a second or so, extrapolate that to the Ring, and you are looking at 5-6 secs faster then BMWs presumed 5:20
But the gap between a 2004 and a 2007 F1 car on melbourne is only a second or so, extrapolate that to the Ring, and you are looking at 5-6 secs faster then BMWs presumed 5:20
If you fit a F2004 with some modern day slicks that should help a considerable amount.
Vitorio said:
Someone like schumacher, raikkonen or montoya in their 2004 state and cars would be a good shot, pretty much every lap record on a non-new F1 track is a 2004 car
But the gap between a 2004 and a 2007 F1 car on melbourne is only a second or so, extrapolate that to the Ring, and you are looking at 5-6 secs faster then BMWs presumed 5:20
But the gap between a 2004 and a 2007 F1 car on melbourne is only a second or so, extrapolate that to the Ring, and you are looking at 5-6 secs faster then BMWs presumed 5:20
Vyse said:
After watching old Nick tip toe around the ring a few years ago, it was estimated by the BMW engineers a full time attack would be in the region of 5:20. If you could find the most suicidal of drivers, along with the best F1 car, setup so that it was perfect for the track, would a sub 5 minute be possible?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA2yYohW1Vs
No. Not a chance in hell. F1 2016 cars are a st load slower than from 10 years agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA2yYohW1Vs
F1 cars are limited by regulations.
Now... if you rephrase the question to....
With what is technically possible pushing the limits of our engineering and human abilities.... is a sub 5 minute ring time be possible.
Answer = Yes. Easy peasy lemon squeezy.
But the car would looknothing like an F1 car.
Edit... I would add the driver could undress to nakedness.... stick a feather duster up his arse and sing a verse of so Jai Ho....
Edited by Troubleatmill on Thursday 26th May 21:55
Vyse said:
The same calculation would equal 440km/h.
My understanding is that the record times reference the 12.9 miles Nordschleife configuration.V8FGO said:
Correct, I think that would be kph, not mph, which would be around 148 mph average.
12.9 miles in 5 minutes is 2.58 miles per minute which equals 154.8 mph or 250 kmh
smithyithy said:
V8FGO said:
Correct, I think that would be kph, not mph, which would be around 148 mph average.
Wonder how far away a bike would be? the TT record stands at 132mph average, I wonder if the track layout etc of the Ring would allow for higher..A list here, no idea how accurate or up to date it is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_N%C3%BCrburg...
Edited by Gad-Westy on Friday 27th May 11:00
you would probably need to throw the F1 rule books out and give the engineers a free hand, which would end up with something like the redbull x cars
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/gaming/mother-god-...
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/gaming/mother-god-...
Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Friday 27th May 11:07
MRobbins1987 said:
Just let Joe loose in his polo gti, intimidating drl's, a dab of oppo on every corner and a new record will be set.
this isn't going away is it? Back O/T - the car used by Nick as I understand it was set up similar to Monaco requirements and deliberately slow for the coverage.
Troubleatmill said:
No. Not a chance in hell. F1 2016 cars are a st load slower than from 10 years ago
F1 cars are limited by regulations.
I think you’re wrong.F1 cars are limited by regulations.
IIRC with the turbocharged engines and eight speed ‘boxes the current F1 cars are faster in a straight line than ever before. The regulations seem to particularly limit tyres and aero to bring braking points forward and mid-corner speeds down.
I actually think the tyres would’ve been faster in 2004 and the aero was probably greater too, nonetheless the current F1 cars aren’t a million miles away from lap record pace.
Current F1 car with 2004 aero and decent tyres, now you’re talking.
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