Boxster IMS again, sorry but please read.
Discussion
Orangecurry said:
edc said:
Most Indys won't spend hours trawling the Internet to find a small component.
Sure - but a Porsche specialist is supposed to bring something to the party - to 'add value', otherwise why would you use them?If, as a specialist mechanic, I saw a recurring issue with a simple part that costs 350 GBP, I'd do a tiny bit of research one evening, to justify my 'specialist' tag.
My Landrover specialist is not used just because their hourly rate is lower the main stealer, but because they have way more hands-on experience and in-depth knowledge of what actually goes wrong on older models and how to fix them as cheaply as possible.
cd1957 said:
Hi the ignition switch part number is 4A0905849/ euros number 857 44 0030 priced at £11.10.
Chris
Thanks for that Chris, most helpful.Chris
Well, I was hoping to update this thread to say I have found a another garage to do the work & all would be well, but while the first part is true, there is some doubt as to how that will be achieved now as I can't get in the bloody car now.
I assume because it hasn't been used for a few days it has gone into some sort of sleep mode, because the fob doesn't open the door & neither will the key in the lock, it just turns 90 degrees both ways.
What a bloody stupid system, how do people go on when they go on holiday for a couple of weeks?
I have tried to get under the front of the car to look for the emergency bonnet release cable, but it is parked on the drive right up to a wall & I can only get to the offside wheel area so that is out, so unless anyone can suggest another approach it will probably have to be a brick through the side window!
Just thought I would take this thread to it's natural conclusion & let you know what has happened.
I think the car going into safe mode was the last straw really, it is unbelievably stupid that if you don't use your car for a few days it shuts down & gives you a major headache. So after I had struggled to remove the wheel arch lining with the wheel still attached, because jacking the car up sets the alarm off, & getting to the emergency cable release & charging the battery, I had had enough. It soured the experience for me, & spending circa £3k on a car that would be worth £5k didn't make sense, so I sold it as is to a guy from this forum who wanted a project.
I must stress that I had enjoyed owning the car, cosmetically it was spot on & yes it was good to drive, but for me not special enough to justify the cost of ownership.
Looking through the service records some of the bills were pretty eye watering, just for basic servicing, very few parts but mainly labour charges. Last service was over £1500 & parts accounted for about £300. It seems that Porsche thinks you should pay for the honour of owning one of their cars!
To think I was thinking of changing up to a 911 (996) while they are still affordable, thank god I came to my senses before I committed.
Don't get me wrong, the 986 isn't a bad car, just not good enough in my opinion to warrant the cost of ownership, & that is without taking into consideration IMS or bore score!
At least the new owner knows about these cars & what needs to be done, I think he has big plans & it will be interesting to see what he does with it & hope he posts about it in due course.
Off to look for a new play thing now.
I think the car going into safe mode was the last straw really, it is unbelievably stupid that if you don't use your car for a few days it shuts down & gives you a major headache. So after I had struggled to remove the wheel arch lining with the wheel still attached, because jacking the car up sets the alarm off, & getting to the emergency cable release & charging the battery, I had had enough. It soured the experience for me, & spending circa £3k on a car that would be worth £5k didn't make sense, so I sold it as is to a guy from this forum who wanted a project.
I must stress that I had enjoyed owning the car, cosmetically it was spot on & yes it was good to drive, but for me not special enough to justify the cost of ownership.
Looking through the service records some of the bills were pretty eye watering, just for basic servicing, very few parts but mainly labour charges. Last service was over £1500 & parts accounted for about £300. It seems that Porsche thinks you should pay for the honour of owning one of their cars!
To think I was thinking of changing up to a 911 (996) while they are still affordable, thank god I came to my senses before I committed.
Don't get me wrong, the 986 isn't a bad car, just not good enough in my opinion to warrant the cost of ownership, & that is without taking into consideration IMS or bore score!
At least the new owner knows about these cars & what needs to be done, I think he has big plans & it will be interesting to see what he does with it & hope he posts about it in due course.
Off to look for a new play thing now.
Speedracer329 said:
Thanks for that Chris, most helpful.
Well, I was hoping to update this thread to say I have found a another garage to do the work & all would be well, but while the first part is true, there is some doubt as to how that will be achieved now as I can't get in the bloody car now.
I assume because it hasn't been used for a few days it has gone into some sort of sleep mode, because the fob doesn't open the door & neither will the key in the lock, it just turns 90 degrees both ways.
What a bloody stupid system, how do people go on when they go on holiday for a couple of weeks?
I have tried to get under the front of the car to look for the emergency bonnet release cable, but it is parked on the drive right up to a wall & I can only get to the offside wheel area so that is out, so unless anyone can suggest another approach it will probably have to be a brick through the side window!
Indeed it does - 7 days. If the key doesn't operate the lock, you had a problem with the lock, or the latch mechanism. So no, it's not a 'bloody stupid system', your car just had a fault, on top of another fault.Well, I was hoping to update this thread to say I have found a another garage to do the work & all would be well, but while the first part is true, there is some doubt as to how that will be achieved now as I can't get in the bloody car now.
I assume because it hasn't been used for a few days it has gone into some sort of sleep mode, because the fob doesn't open the door & neither will the key in the lock, it just turns 90 degrees both ways.
What a bloody stupid system, how do people go on when they go on holiday for a couple of weeks?
I have tried to get under the front of the car to look for the emergency bonnet release cable, but it is parked on the drive right up to a wall & I can only get to the offside wheel area so that is out, so unless anyone can suggest another approach it will probably have to be a brick through the side window!
Sounds like it had a litany of them really, I think people assume that a Porsche is immune to things going wrong, and/or they don't get things repaired when needed (not suggesting you, perhaps a previous owner?). Like any car really, you go in with your eyes open.
With regard to Porsche wanting you to pay the privilege, I think you pays your money and takes your choice. I haven't found my '99 2.7 Box any more expensive than other 'premium' marques in parts costs, cheaper in many cases than the previous car I had; an R53 Mini Cooper S. I do do all of my own work, though.
Good luck with another car - sometimes it doesn't matter what you buy, it can bite you on the bum!
Given the value of the work vs the value of the car I would consider chopping it in, you've got to be looking at £3k+ easily with all that? If you sold the car well that would probably get you into a nice 987 2.7??
If you are going ahead I would replace flywheel with clutch. Too painful if it goes later, and your car is quite old. Rads - prob with them is each side has 2, the main ones and the air con ones, you can't really see the back ones without the front ones off and really on a 16 year old car you have to expect they are all going ot be close to perishing. Could be expensive to do all 4 + regas + coolant etc.
However that is a huge amount of work. Which garage is it if you don't mind me asking? Reason is that I took my car to a respected indi other than my usual one last year as I needed something fixed urgently, so I had it serviced whilst it was in, and the list of remedial work they talked to me about was incredible. Others have found the same.
I did the basics that it was in for and then took it to my other indi who I have had a long standing relationship with and who I trust. They said the first garage's list was stuff that was showing very minor wear and in no way needed replacement.
If you are going ahead I would replace flywheel with clutch. Too painful if it goes later, and your car is quite old. Rads - prob with them is each side has 2, the main ones and the air con ones, you can't really see the back ones without the front ones off and really on a 16 year old car you have to expect they are all going ot be close to perishing. Could be expensive to do all 4 + regas + coolant etc.
However that is a huge amount of work. Which garage is it if you don't mind me asking? Reason is that I took my car to a respected indi other than my usual one last year as I needed something fixed urgently, so I had it serviced whilst it was in, and the list of remedial work they talked to me about was incredible. Others have found the same.
I did the basics that it was in for and then took it to my other indi who I have had a long standing relationship with and who I trust. They said the first garage's list was stuff that was showing very minor wear and in no way needed replacement.
Edited by jakesmith on Saturday 23 July 10:25
Sorry for the late reply, I decided in the end to sell it as is in the end. I contacted a fellow ph'er because he said something in another thread that led me to believe he could be interested. Long story short he came to see & drive it last weekend & we did a deal & he drove it away.
I think he has plans above & beyond just getting it fixed so it was a good base for him to start from, & for me I was happy to move on to another vehicle. As mentioned above it was the thought that once they had gotten in there & had a good nosey around the bill might have doubled that finally did it for me.
Jakesmith, the indy was J.Hughes in Poole.
I think he has plans above & beyond just getting it fixed so it was a good base for him to start from, & for me I was happy to move on to another vehicle. As mentioned above it was the thought that once they had gotten in there & had a good nosey around the bill might have doubled that finally did it for me.
Jakesmith, the indy was J.Hughes in Poole.
if you want to avoid that you really need a much newer car. I traded a 1998 Boxster for a 2006 one in 2008. The monthly loan repayment was about £100 a month more but I was easily spending that keeping the 10 year old 986 running
Porsches are not particularly reliable to be honest when they get a bit older, and when they get a few years on them they need loads of money spending on radiators, coolant tanks, that sort of thing
Porsches are not particularly reliable to be honest when they get a bit older, and when they get a few years on them they need loads of money spending on radiators, coolant tanks, that sort of thing
Speedracer329 said:
Hi all, I having really posted in this section since becoming the owner of a MY2000 Boxster S, mainly because I have been enjoying driving her.
However, she is on 112,000 now & a big service is looming & I know some work is required. I took the car for a health check/problem finding session at a Indy local to me in Poole & have been told the following work is required:-
Replace clutch & flywheel.
Replace leaking radiator (which one not specified). *I have noticed a small leak.*
Replace ignition switch.
Replace heater fan.
Service.
"Other parts may be required, will not know until parts removed"
I have a couple of questions which I hope someone with knowledge of these cars can answer please.
Is a flywheel change normal when changing the clutch?
I know the last sentence may cover this, but should I have been told it would be advisable to have the IMS bearing replaced?
And lastly, is an ignition switch & cylinder really £350?
Cheers,
Brook.
Why not leave the clutch until it starts to slip. £0However, she is on 112,000 now & a big service is looming & I know some work is required. I took the car for a health check/problem finding session at a Indy local to me in Poole & have been told the following work is required:-
Replace clutch & flywheel.
Replace leaking radiator (which one not specified). *I have noticed a small leak.*
Replace ignition switch.
Replace heater fan.
Service.
"Other parts may be required, will not know until parts removed"
I have a couple of questions which I hope someone with knowledge of these cars can answer please.
Is a flywheel change normal when changing the clutch?
I know the last sentence may cover this, but should I have been told it would be advisable to have the IMS bearing replaced?
And lastly, is an ignition switch & cylinder really £350?
Cheers,
Brook.
If the car doesn't overheat then leave the radiator. £0. Alternaitvely see garage below and buy a recon part. £100
Ignition switch £30 and takes half an hour. Youtube is your friend here.
Does the fan blow? If so then leave it £0
Service - buy your own high quality oil from Amazon and take it somewhere like this. Full service is £100 by someone who builds racing cars for a living from the ground up (and for his family who all race).
www.revivals59.com
Soov535 said:
Why not leave the clutch until it starts to slip. £0
If the car doesn't overheat then leave the radiator. £0. Alternaitvely see garage below and buy a recon part. £100
Ignition switch £30 and takes half an hour. Youtube is your friend here.
Does the fan blow? If so then leave it £0
Service - buy your own high quality oil from Amazon and take it somewhere like this. Full service is £100 by someone who builds racing cars for a living from the ground up (and for his family who all race).
www.revivals59.com
Another vote for Revivals - they have worked on all my cars at some point from race cars to my old Landie which they currently have at the moment.
Soov535 - are you near Thriplow?
If the car doesn't overheat then leave the radiator. £0. Alternaitvely see garage below and buy a recon part. £100
Ignition switch £30 and takes half an hour. Youtube is your friend here.
Does the fan blow? If so then leave it £0
Service - buy your own high quality oil from Amazon and take it somewhere like this. Full service is £100 by someone who builds racing cars for a living from the ground up (and for his family who all race).
www.revivals59.com
Another vote for Revivals - they have worked on all my cars at some point from race cars to my old Landie which they currently have at the moment.
Soov535 - are you near Thriplow?
Aye not far.
I recognise your lovely 308, I think.
Beer?
I recognise your lovely 308, I think.
Beer?
Maldini35 said:
Soov535 said:
Why not leave the clutch until it starts to slip. £0
If the car doesn't overheat then leave the radiator. £0. Alternaitvely see garage below and buy a recon part. £100
Ignition switch £30 and takes half an hour. Youtube is your friend here.
Does the fan blow? If so then leave it £0
Service - buy your own high quality oil from Amazon and take it somewhere like this. Full service is £100 by someone who builds racing cars for a living from the ground up (and for his family who all race).
www.revivals59.com
Another vote for Revivals - they have worked on all my cars at some point from race cars to my old Landie which they currently have at the moment.
Soov535 - are you near Thriplow?
If the car doesn't overheat then leave the radiator. £0. Alternaitvely see garage below and buy a recon part. £100
Ignition switch £30 and takes half an hour. Youtube is your friend here.
Does the fan blow? If so then leave it £0
Service - buy your own high quality oil from Amazon and take it somewhere like this. Full service is £100 by someone who builds racing cars for a living from the ground up (and for his family who all race).
www.revivals59.com
Another vote for Revivals - they have worked on all my cars at some point from race cars to my old Landie which they currently have at the moment.
Soov535 - are you near Thriplow?
Edited by Soov535 on Tuesday 16th August 11:59
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