30k budget? 987 cayman s, 981 boxster or A45 amg?
Discussion
I think we can safely say that most people would be well pleased with any of the Cayman/Boxster derivatives. They are all in the top 5% of sports cars you can buy for a reasonable outlay, provided out-right speed is not your top priority. The 987 has got to be the top Cayster for steering feel, but I just couldn't get on with its external looks (probably just a reflection of my shallow outlook).
HighwayStar said:
J-P said:
I've got used to the somewhat naff interior of the 987.2. Quite like it now, reminds me that I have it for the way it drives, not the interior.
Ooooh... Cheap shot 
. I doubt most on here, me included, have a 981 simply because of the interior. If that was the case I'd be in a MK3 TTS.For gods sake j8bbk when are we going to hear wether or not you are going to stay in the dark ages or move forwards, the suspence is killing me???
So, with all this talk of which one is better and which one is more involving and bling?? Bling On a 981, what the hell are you 987 owners on!
So just in case I missed something, I saw a nice 981 at Stamford car show.
It sat in the far right hand corner from the entrance next to a DB9 and some other very nice cars. It was a very dark blue, almost black.
I didn't even notice it sitting there for a start, no chrome, no so called bling what so ever. Lovely plain black or blue interia, difficult to tell through the windows with the sun on it, as it was a bit dirty to be honest.
Not for one second would I consider the car had any bling on it what so ever.
After trying most of the 987 caymans, and being dissapointed with the suspension with 19 inch wheels attempting to dislodge my teeth on coutry roads, I moved on to the 911. 996, overrated car with the smaller engines and to much risk with engines.
997 was a massive improvement over the 996 as an overall car to drive, its suspension and sharpe steering with far brighter feel to the throttle is street's apart from the 996.
But if you have a 996 turbo, its a different machine completely as the power gives the car far more focus when you drive it. That does not mean in any way that it is a better car that the 997 in basic terms, its just what you get from it that matters.
When I drove a 981 the other week I was shocked as it drove better than all the other cars that I had driven for which I was considering.
Do you really think now that all the new range being similar in many aesthetic ways are inferior to the prevoius cars. I don't, the 981 has lifted the bar much higher, and the GT4 is a heralded better car to drive than a 911.
But, its each to there own of course, but will never convince me to buy a same model 987 over a 981 thinking the 987 was the better car because it clearly is not.
And can someone tell me where the bling is on a 981??????
Gadgit
So, with all this talk of which one is better and which one is more involving and bling?? Bling On a 981, what the hell are you 987 owners on!
So just in case I missed something, I saw a nice 981 at Stamford car show.
It sat in the far right hand corner from the entrance next to a DB9 and some other very nice cars. It was a very dark blue, almost black.
I didn't even notice it sitting there for a start, no chrome, no so called bling what so ever. Lovely plain black or blue interia, difficult to tell through the windows with the sun on it, as it was a bit dirty to be honest.
Not for one second would I consider the car had any bling on it what so ever.
After trying most of the 987 caymans, and being dissapointed with the suspension with 19 inch wheels attempting to dislodge my teeth on coutry roads, I moved on to the 911. 996, overrated car with the smaller engines and to much risk with engines.
997 was a massive improvement over the 996 as an overall car to drive, its suspension and sharpe steering with far brighter feel to the throttle is street's apart from the 996.
But if you have a 996 turbo, its a different machine completely as the power gives the car far more focus when you drive it. That does not mean in any way that it is a better car that the 997 in basic terms, its just what you get from it that matters.
When I drove a 981 the other week I was shocked as it drove better than all the other cars that I had driven for which I was considering.
Do you really think now that all the new range being similar in many aesthetic ways are inferior to the prevoius cars. I don't, the 981 has lifted the bar much higher, and the GT4 is a heralded better car to drive than a 911.
But, its each to there own of course, but will never convince me to buy a same model 987 over a 981 thinking the 987 was the better car because it clearly is not.
And can someone tell me where the bling is on a 981??????
Gadgit
gadgit said:
For gods sake j8bbk when are we going to hear wether or not you are going to stay in the dark ages or move forwards, the suspence is killing me???
So, with all this talk of which one is better and which one is more involving and bling?? Bling On a 981, what the hell are you 987 owners on!
So just in case I missed something, I saw a nice 981 at Stamford car show.
It sat in the far right hand corner from the entrance next to a DB9 and some other very nice cars. It was a very dark blue, almost black.
I didn't even notice it sitting there for a start, no chrome, no so called bling what so ever. Lovely plain black or blue interia, difficult to tell through the windows with the sun on it, as it was a bit dirty to be honest.
Not for one second would I consider the car had any bling on it what so ever.
After trying most of the 987 caymans, and being dissapointed with the suspension with 19 inch wheels attempting to dislodge my teeth on coutry roads, I moved on to the 911. 996, overrated car with the smaller engines and to much risk with engines.
997 was a massive improvement over the 996 as an overall car to drive, its suspension and sharpe steering with far brighter feel to the throttle is street's apart from the 996.
But if you have a 996 turbo, its a different machine completely as the power gives the car far more focus when you drive it. That does not mean in any way that it is a better car that the 997 in basic terms, its just what you get from it that matters.
When I drove a 981 the other week I was shocked as it drove better than all the other cars that I had driven for which I was considering.
Do you really think now that all the new range being similar in many aesthetic ways are inferior to the prevoius cars. I don't, the 981 has lifted the bar much higher, and the GT4 is a heralded better car to drive than a 911.
But, its each to there own of course, but will never convince me to buy a same model 987 over a 981 thinking the 987 was the better car because it clearly is not.
And can someone tell me where the bling is on a 981??????
Gadgit
Strange rant - don't think you can categorically say that any car is better than another. My wife's X3 is clearly better than mine at carrying 5 people and luggage. It has far better fuel economy and it has a nicer interior, so on those three criteria (one of which is subjective) the X3 is better than a Cayman R.So, with all this talk of which one is better and which one is more involving and bling?? Bling On a 981, what the hell are you 987 owners on!
So just in case I missed something, I saw a nice 981 at Stamford car show.
It sat in the far right hand corner from the entrance next to a DB9 and some other very nice cars. It was a very dark blue, almost black.
I didn't even notice it sitting there for a start, no chrome, no so called bling what so ever. Lovely plain black or blue interia, difficult to tell through the windows with the sun on it, as it was a bit dirty to be honest.
Not for one second would I consider the car had any bling on it what so ever.
After trying most of the 987 caymans, and being dissapointed with the suspension with 19 inch wheels attempting to dislodge my teeth on coutry roads, I moved on to the 911. 996, overrated car with the smaller engines and to much risk with engines.
997 was a massive improvement over the 996 as an overall car to drive, its suspension and sharpe steering with far brighter feel to the throttle is street's apart from the 996.
But if you have a 996 turbo, its a different machine completely as the power gives the car far more focus when you drive it. That does not mean in any way that it is a better car that the 997 in basic terms, its just what you get from it that matters.
When I drove a 981 the other week I was shocked as it drove better than all the other cars that I had driven for which I was considering.
Do you really think now that all the new range being similar in many aesthetic ways are inferior to the prevoius cars. I don't, the 981 has lifted the bar much higher, and the GT4 is a heralded better car to drive than a 911.
But, its each to there own of course, but will never convince me to buy a same model 987 over a 981 thinking the 987 was the better car because it clearly is not.
And can someone tell me where the bling is on a 981??????
Gadgit
Strange reply, as this whole discussion concerns 987,981,a45.....
In know way is this a rant. This is just what I have found, I am not criticising anyone else's choices.
Clearly the only question I am asking concerns where the bling is on a 981.....
Perhaps you may like to give an answer to that question.
Gadgit.
In know way is this a rant. This is just what I have found, I am not criticising anyone else's choices.
Clearly the only question I am asking concerns where the bling is on a 981.....
Perhaps you may like to give an answer to that question.
Gadgit.
There is always clearly a big problem with any type of these posts! Firstly the op is looking for a car perhaps a Cayman with a £30k budget every one jumps in and owners of CR say CR although clearly out of budget! Another favourite post on this forum is an op is looking for a 911 so everyone especially owners jump in and say it has to be a gt3/turbo as if all other choices are wrong!
Firstly fix a budget secondly test drive a few cars in budget and make your own mind up! There never is a wrong choice only a wrong choice for you! I personally prefer the look of a 987 to 981 but for every person who likes a 987 there is somebody else who prefers a 981 it's all about how the car makes you feel and nobody else! I think a CR is a waist of an extra £10k+ over a CS but others are happy to pay ! Who is wrong or right? The only thing to listen to is technical advise not personal advise!
Firstly fix a budget secondly test drive a few cars in budget and make your own mind up! There never is a wrong choice only a wrong choice for you! I personally prefer the look of a 987 to 981 but for every person who likes a 987 there is somebody else who prefers a 981 it's all about how the car makes you feel and nobody else! I think a CR is a waist of an extra £10k+ over a CS but others are happy to pay ! Who is wrong or right? The only thing to listen to is technical advise not personal advise!
gadgit said:
Strange reply, as this whole discussion concerns 987,981,a45.....
In know way is this a rant. This is just what I have found, I am not criticising anyone else's choices.
Clearly the only question I am asking concerns where the bling is on a 981.....
Perhaps you may like to give an answer to that question.
Gadgit.
I didn't say that the 981 has bling. I think what other posters are trying to say is that the car prioritises style over substance. It's not a position that I share but I don't think that there are actual blingy bits to the 981.In know way is this a rant. This is just what I have found, I am not criticising anyone else's choices.
Clearly the only question I am asking concerns where the bling is on a 981.....
Perhaps you may like to give an answer to that question.
Gadgit.
GT4P said:
There is always clearly a big problem with any type of these posts! Firstly the op is looking for a car perhaps a Cayman with a £30k budget every one jumps in and owners of CR say CR although clearly out of budget! Another favourite post on this forum is an op is looking for a 911 so everyone especially owners jump in and say it has to be a gt3/turbo as if all other c hoices are wrong!
Firstly fix a budget secondly test drive a few cars in budget and make your own mind up! There never is a wrong choice only a wrong choice for you! I personally prefer the look of a 987 to 981 but for every person who likes a 987 there is somebody else who prefers a 981 it's all about how the car makes you feel and nobody else! I think a CR is a waist of an extra £10k+ over a CS but others are happy to pay ! Who is wrong or right? The only thing to listen to is technical advise not personal advise!
Spot on, that's exactly what I did and ended up with the 987.Firstly fix a budget secondly test drive a few cars in budget and make your own mind up! There never is a wrong choice only a wrong choice for you! I personally prefer the look of a 987 to 981 but for every person who likes a 987 there is somebody else who prefers a 981 it's all about how the car makes you feel and nobody else! I think a CR is a waist of an extra £10k+ over a CS but others are happy to pay ! Who is wrong or right? The only thing to listen to is technical advise not personal advise!
To the OP, how was the test drive?
GT4P said:
There is always clearly a big problem with any type of these posts! Firstly the op is looking for a car perhaps a Cayman with a £30k budget every one jumps in and owners of CR say CR although clearly out of budget! Another favourite post on this forum is an op is looking for a 911 so everyone especially owners jump in and say it has to be a gt3/turbo as if all other choices are wrong!
Firstly fix a budget secondly test drive a few cars in budget and make your own mind up! There never is a wrong choice only a wrong choice for you! I personally prefer the look of a 987 to 981 but for every person who likes a 987 there is somebody else who prefers a 981 it's all about how the car makes you feel and nobody else! I think a CR is a waist of an extra £10k+ over a CS but others are happy to pay ! Who is wrong or right? The only thing to listen to is technical advise not personal advise!
+1. Well said fella. I had a 987.1 CS but felt that the potential issues were too much to risk so I changed up to the 987.2 CS; but only after test driving the CR. Despite the fact that the CR was out of my price range I could have been tempted to spend the extra if it had been truly special. It is a great car, don't get me wrong, but I felt that the harsh ride and limited extra speed and feel from the the regular CS was not worth the extra money. Also, don't forget that a high spec 987.2 is also quite difficult to find so also benefits from not losing too much value over time.Firstly fix a budget secondly test drive a few cars in budget and make your own mind up! There never is a wrong choice only a wrong choice for you! I personally prefer the look of a 987 to 981 but for every person who likes a 987 there is somebody else who prefers a 981 it's all about how the car makes you feel and nobody else! I think a CR is a waist of an extra £10k+ over a CS but others are happy to pay ! Who is wrong or right? The only thing to listen to is technical advise not personal advise!
Notwithstanding that, I prefer the shape of the 987 models as they retain the initial curvy design to the rear end. Somewhat lost in the newer models which appear, TO ME, to be more slab sided and more 911-like.
Just MHO obviously and I don't deny that the 981 may well be a better car. I couldnt tell you as I haven't driven one.
J-P said:
I didn't say that the 981 has bling. I think what other posters are trying to say is that the car prioritises style over substance. It's not a position that I share but I don't think that there are actual blingy bits to the 981.
I don't think there is anything particularly blingy about the 981 as standard - nor do I think it's valid to suggest prioritisation of style over substance. HOWEVER the vast range of trim options - coloured/leather this that or the other, contrasting stitching etc etc is, I'm sure, designed to make the car more appealing to those for whom style is as, or more, important than substance. So it does make the car open to "bling" criticism.Following this thread intently as I'm looking for a Cayman S...
I love Basalt Black, but my M3 is black and it's a t
t to keep clean. As it happens, an Aqua Blue one has come up... Just waiting for some details before I go any further.
Annoyingly, both are good spec but without PSE. Options?
I love Basalt Black, but my M3 is black and it's a t
t to keep clean. As it happens, an Aqua Blue one has come up... Just waiting for some details before I go any further.Annoyingly, both are good spec but without PSE. Options?
Jim1556 said:
Following this thread intently as I'm looking for a Cayman S...
I love Basalt Black, but my M3 is black and it's a tt to keep clean. As it happens, an Aqua Blue one has come up... Just waiting for some details before I go any further.
Annoyingly, both are good spec but without PSE. Options?
If it's a 987 your looking for you can retrofit a PSE for around £2k or you can get the carnewal mod done for a lot lessI love Basalt Black, but my M3 is black and it's a t
t to keep clean. As it happens, an Aqua Blue one has come up... Just waiting for some details before I go any further.Annoyingly, both are good spec but without PSE. Options?
Drove a 981 Boxster 2.7 manual this weekend (not ideal spec, but closest to home). First thing I noticed was the fantastic driving position. Didn't get much chance to poke around the car, but exterior is beautifully proportioned while the interior was of a nice quality, but lacked any bling imo (car I viewed was very basic).. if anything I prefer the little Audi's interior (definitely need the Sport Design Wheel though).
Test drive included a mixture of traffic, roundabouts and a dual carriageway. Was sold within the first few minute's.. so smooth, so balanced, even the ride was surprisingly supple on the 18's (although lots of sidewall). As previously noted, to make swift progress you have to rev it, but all the more reason to rev the nuts off it!! don't think I would miss the torque that much. Howl of flat 6 was pretty stunning aswell.
Overall I'm very much sold on a 981. Don't think I could live with the exterior and dated interior of a 987 to be honest, bit too much of a compromise for me. Planning on driving a 981S and Cayman variants (as well as a PDK) as I am prepared to stretch my budget if one is worth the extra outlay.. just a case of waiting for the right car to come along now!!
Test drive included a mixture of traffic, roundabouts and a dual carriageway. Was sold within the first few minute's.. so smooth, so balanced, even the ride was surprisingly supple on the 18's (although lots of sidewall). As previously noted, to make swift progress you have to rev it, but all the more reason to rev the nuts off it!! don't think I would miss the torque that much. Howl of flat 6 was pretty stunning aswell.
Overall I'm very much sold on a 981. Don't think I could live with the exterior and dated interior of a 987 to be honest, bit too much of a compromise for me. Planning on driving a 981S and Cayman variants (as well as a PDK) as I am prepared to stretch my budget if one is worth the extra outlay.. just a case of waiting for the right car to come along now!!
gadgit said:
For gods sake j8bbk when are we going to hear wether or not you are going to stay in the dark ages or move forwards, the suspence is killing me???
So, with all this talk of which one is better and which one is more involving and bling?? Bling On a 981, what the hell are you 987 owners on!
So just in case I missed something, I saw a nice 981 at Stamford car show.
It sat in the far right hand corner from the entrance next to a DB9 and some other very nice cars. It was a very dark blue, almost black.
I didn't even notice it sitting there for a start, no chrome, no so called bling what so ever. Lovely plain black or blue interia, difficult to tell through the windows with the sun on it, as it was a bit dirty to be honest.
Not for one second would I consider the car had any bling on it what so ever.
After trying most of the 987 caymans, and being dissapointed with the suspension with 19 inch wheels attempting to dislodge my teeth on coutry roads, I moved on to the 911. 996, overrated car with the smaller engines and to much risk with engines.
997 was a massive improvement over the 996 as an overall car to drive, its suspension and sharpe steering with far brighter feel to the throttle is street's apart from the 996.
But if you have a 996 turbo, its a different machine completely as the power gives the car far more focus when you drive it. That does not mean in any way that it is a better car that the 997 in basic terms, its just what you get from it that matters.
When I drove a 981 the other week I was shocked as it drove better than all the other cars that I had driven for which I was considering.
Do you really think now that all the new range being similar in many aesthetic ways are inferior to the prevoius cars. I don't, the 981 has lifted the bar much higher, and the GT4 is a heralded better car to drive than a 911.
But, its each to there own of course, but will never convince me to buy a same model 987 over a 981 thinking the 987 was the better car because it clearly is not.
And can someone tell me where the bling is on a 981??????
Gadgit
So, with all this talk of which one is better and which one is more involving and bling?? Bling On a 981, what the hell are you 987 owners on!
So just in case I missed something, I saw a nice 981 at Stamford car show.
It sat in the far right hand corner from the entrance next to a DB9 and some other very nice cars. It was a very dark blue, almost black.
I didn't even notice it sitting there for a start, no chrome, no so called bling what so ever. Lovely plain black or blue interia, difficult to tell through the windows with the sun on it, as it was a bit dirty to be honest.
Not for one second would I consider the car had any bling on it what so ever.
After trying most of the 987 caymans, and being dissapointed with the suspension with 19 inch wheels attempting to dislodge my teeth on coutry roads, I moved on to the 911. 996, overrated car with the smaller engines and to much risk with engines.
997 was a massive improvement over the 996 as an overall car to drive, its suspension and sharpe steering with far brighter feel to the throttle is street's apart from the 996.
But if you have a 996 turbo, its a different machine completely as the power gives the car far more focus when you drive it. That does not mean in any way that it is a better car that the 997 in basic terms, its just what you get from it that matters.
When I drove a 981 the other week I was shocked as it drove better than all the other cars that I had driven for which I was considering.
Do you really think now that all the new range being similar in many aesthetic ways are inferior to the prevoius cars. I don't, the 981 has lifted the bar much higher, and the GT4 is a heralded better car to drive than a 911.
But, its each to there own of course, but will never convince me to buy a same model 987 over a 981 thinking the 987 was the better car because it clearly is not.
And can someone tell me where the bling is on a 981??????
Gadgit
j8bbk said:
Overall I'm very much sold on a 981. Don't think I could live with the exterior and dated interior of a 987 to be honest, bit too much of a compromise for me. Planning on driving a 981S and Cayman variants (as well as a PDK) as I am prepared to stretch my budget if one is worth the extra outlay.. just a case of waiting for the right car to come along now!!
I'm not in the least surprised in this. I would pretty much guarantee that anyone new to Porsche would prefer the interior of the newer car and regard the previous generation as dated. Whereas those that have already owned Porsches will place less emphasis on the interior. Having owned a 986 and now a 987 and having experienced a 981(GT4), I only see similarities in the cabin and evolution over time. The instrument layout, position of the controls and the driving position are pretty much the same for all of those generations.Funnily enough took my dad along (who has owned a 996 turbo S and 3 pre 90's 911's) who noted the fundamental similarities to his previous motors. Agreed that the 981 represents a more modern take on Porsche interior technology since the panamera/991. Makes the 987 seem a more traditional/analogue proposition which I'm sure some people may prefer. But as a car I would like to use everyday things like a good nav, sensible dash layout are quite important to me.
boxsey said:
I'm not in the least surprised in this. I would pretty much guarantee that anyone new to Porsche would prefer the interior of the newer car and regard the previous generation as dated. Whereas those that have already owned Porsches will place less emphasis on the interior. Having owned a 986 and now a 987 and having experienced a 981(GT4), I only see similarities in the cabin and evolution over time. The instrument layout, position of the controls and the driving position are pretty much the same for all of those generations.
j8bbk said:
Drove a 981 Boxster 2.7 manual this weekend (not ideal spec, but closest to home). First thing I noticed was the fantastic driving position. Didn't get much chance to poke around the car, but exterior is beautifully proportioned while the interior was of a nice quality, but lacked any bling imo (car I viewed was very basic).. if anything I prefer the little Audi's interior (definitely need the Sport Design Wheel though).
Test drive included a mixture of traffic, roundabouts and a dual carriageway. Was sold within the first few minute's.. so smooth, so balanced, even the ride was surprisingly supple on the 18's (although lots of sidewall). As previously noted, to make swift progress you have to rev it, but all the more reason to rev the nuts off it!! don't think I would miss the torque that much. Howl of flat 6 was pretty stunning aswell.
Overall I'm very much sold on a 981. Don't think I could live with the exterior and dated interior of a 987 to be honest, bit too much of a compromise for me. Planning on driving a 981S and Cayman variants (as well as a PDK) as I am prepared to stretch my budget if one is worth the extra outlay.. just a case of waiting for the right car to come along now!!
No surprise at all to your experience of the 981, the driving position felt right the moment my butt was in the seat. Like it was made for me... A great initial feeling, a buzz, I was grinning before I'd even pulled away. That howl, the very core of the car.Test drive included a mixture of traffic, roundabouts and a dual carriageway. Was sold within the first few minute's.. so smooth, so balanced, even the ride was surprisingly supple on the 18's (although lots of sidewall). As previously noted, to make swift progress you have to rev it, but all the more reason to rev the nuts off it!! don't think I would miss the torque that much. Howl of flat 6 was pretty stunning aswell.
Overall I'm very much sold on a 981. Don't think I could live with the exterior and dated interior of a 987 to be honest, bit too much of a compromise for me. Planning on driving a 981S and Cayman variants (as well as a PDK) as I am prepared to stretch my budget if one is worth the extra outlay.. just a case of waiting for the right car to come along now!!
gadgit said:
For gods sake j8bbk when are we going to hear wether or not you are going to stay in the dark ages or move forwards, the suspence is killing me???
So, with all this talk of which one is better and which one is more involving and bling?? Bling On a 981, what the hell are you 987 owners on!
So just in case I missed something, I saw a nice 981 at Stamford car show.
It sat in the far right hand corner from the entrance next to a DB9 and some other very nice cars. It was a very dark blue, almost black.
I didn't even notice it sitting there for a start, no chrome, no so called bling what so ever. Lovely plain black or blue interia, difficult to tell through the windows with the sun on it, as it was a bit dirty to be honest.
Not for one second would I consider the car had any bling on it what so ever.
After trying most of the 987 caymans, and being dissapointed with the suspension with 19 inch wheels attempting to dislodge my teeth on coutry roads, I moved on to the 911. 996, overrated car with the smaller engines and to much risk with engines.
997 was a massive improvement over the 996 as an overall car to drive, its suspension and sharpe steering with far brighter feel to the throttle is street's apart from the 996.
But if you have a 996 turbo, its a different machine completely as the power gives the car far more focus when you drive it. That does not mean in any way that it is a better car that the 997 in basic terms, its just what you get from it that matters.
When I drove a 981 the other week I was shocked as it drove better than all the other cars that I had driven for which I was considering.
Do you really think now that all the new range being similar in many aesthetic ways are inferior to the prevoius cars. I don't, the 981 has lifted the bar much higher, and the GT4 is a heralded better car to drive than a 911.
But, its each to there own of course, but will never convince me to buy a same model 987 over a 981 thinking the 987 was the better car because it clearly is not.
And can someone tell me where the bling is on a 981??????
Gadgit
So, with all this talk of which one is better and which one is more involving and bling?? Bling On a 981, what the hell are you 987 owners on!
So just in case I missed something, I saw a nice 981 at Stamford car show.
It sat in the far right hand corner from the entrance next to a DB9 and some other very nice cars. It was a very dark blue, almost black.
I didn't even notice it sitting there for a start, no chrome, no so called bling what so ever. Lovely plain black or blue interia, difficult to tell through the windows with the sun on it, as it was a bit dirty to be honest.
Not for one second would I consider the car had any bling on it what so ever.
After trying most of the 987 caymans, and being dissapointed with the suspension with 19 inch wheels attempting to dislodge my teeth on coutry roads, I moved on to the 911. 996, overrated car with the smaller engines and to much risk with engines.
997 was a massive improvement over the 996 as an overall car to drive, its suspension and sharpe steering with far brighter feel to the throttle is street's apart from the 996.
But if you have a 996 turbo, its a different machine completely as the power gives the car far more focus when you drive it. That does not mean in any way that it is a better car that the 997 in basic terms, its just what you get from it that matters.
When I drove a 981 the other week I was shocked as it drove better than all the other cars that I had driven for which I was considering.
Do you really think now that all the new range being similar in many aesthetic ways are inferior to the prevoius cars. I don't, the 981 has lifted the bar much higher, and the GT4 is a heralded better car to drive than a 911.
But, its each to there own of course, but will never convince me to buy a same model 987 over a 981 thinking the 987 was the better car because it clearly is not.
And can someone tell me where the bling is on a 981??????
Gadgit
Mine is PDK, Basalt black, PSE, PASM, 20" wheerls, Sport Crono plus a load of other stuff. I love the Sport Design wheel but miss the volume controls etc for music... No real hardship though. Once you've test driven the variants of the 981 CS. You decide what's best for you and what options you want/must have and those you can take or leave. Happy hunting.
HighwayStar said:
No surprise at all to your experience of the 981, the driving position felt right the moment my butt was in the seat. Like it was made for me... A great initial feeling, a buzz, I was grinning before I'd even pulled away. That howl, the very core of the car.
Mine is PDK, Basalt black, PSE, PASM, 20" wheerls, Sport Crono plus a load of other stuff. I love the Sport Design wheel but miss the volume controls etc for music... No real hardship though. Once you've test driven the variants of the 981 CS. You decide what's best for you and what options you want/must have and those you can take or leave. Happy hunting.
Nice to see this feedback post test drive. The non-turbo Porsches might not be the fastest on the roads these days, but they deliver a lot more driving enjoyment than many faster cars. When I got my first Boxster it was slower than my Golf GTi but ligt years ahead in terms of driver appeal. These days hot hatches are so fast but it's not all about that. Mine is PDK, Basalt black, PSE, PASM, 20" wheerls, Sport Crono plus a load of other stuff. I love the Sport Design wheel but miss the volume controls etc for music... No real hardship though. Once you've test driven the variants of the 981 CS. You decide what's best for you and what options you want/must have and those you can take or leave. Happy hunting.
Thanks HighwayStar,
Current must haves are; PDK, 19" or 20" alloys, Nav, Bluetooth, Bose, electric seats, cruise control, climate control, Sport design wheel.
would also like but not vital; PSE, Sport chrono, PASM, Extended leather
Can't handle upkeep on another black car unfortunately - looks like sapphire blue, grey or white.
Current must haves are; PDK, 19" or 20" alloys, Nav, Bluetooth, Bose, electric seats, cruise control, climate control, Sport design wheel.
would also like but not vital; PSE, Sport chrono, PASM, Extended leather
Can't handle upkeep on another black car unfortunately - looks like sapphire blue, grey or white.
HighwayStar said:
No surprise at all to your experience of the 981, the driving position felt right the moment my butt was in the seat. Like it was made for me... A great initial feeling, a buzz, I was grinning before I'd even pulled away. That howl, the very core of the car.
Mine is PDK, Basalt black, PSE, PASM, 20" wheerls, Sport Crono plus a load of other stuff. I love the Sport Design wheel but miss the volume controls etc for music... No real hardship though. Once you've test driven the variants of the 981 CS. You decide what's best for you and what options you want/must have and those you can take or leave. Happy hunting.
Mine is PDK, Basalt black, PSE, PASM, 20" wheerls, Sport Crono plus a load of other stuff. I love the Sport Design wheel but miss the volume controls etc for music... No real hardship though. Once you've test driven the variants of the 981 CS. You decide what's best for you and what options you want/must have and those you can take or leave. Happy hunting.
J8bbk....... Good man.
Nice report and just how I felt when I drove a 981 for the first time a week or so ago.
Its a car that is so welcoming and special to get into, and that growl from the rear is just right. Its not in your face like an F type.
The cabin is a much nicer place to be in than most other sports cars. You just feel at home straight away when you drive off.
Good luck with your car..... And enyoy it when ever you can.
Gadgit
Nice report and just how I felt when I drove a 981 for the first time a week or so ago.
Its a car that is so welcoming and special to get into, and that growl from the rear is just right. Its not in your face like an F type.
The cabin is a much nicer place to be in than most other sports cars. You just feel at home straight away when you drive off.
Good luck with your car..... And enyoy it when ever you can.
Gadgit
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