718 Positive Vibes Thread...
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The Mean Machine said:
having only driven both 718 Boxster versions, I finally got inside a 718 Cayman today. The exhaust is way louder inside the Cayman compared to the Boxster, I'm not sure any louder would be desirable tbh.
Agree that the exhaust is louder in Cayman compared to the Boxster 718, have not driven one with sports exhaust but hope this will be louder still on my Cayman 718S.Drove a 718 Cayman 2.0 manual on 19 and passive dampers for over an hour yesterday. Sounds really disappointing. Like a continuous loud fart.
But that's where the negatives end. If you can compartmentalise that, it's brilliant to drive. Grip, traction, steering, the way it changes direction, primary controls, balance, etc etc.
OK, power delivery can be a little frustrating but actually it makes traction management a little more exciting and pushes the chassis, rendering it a little less inert in the process despite the over sized rears.
A great car. I was ready to buy but not without a little sweetener, which was not forthcoming. Does anyone know if the 3% off on Coast to Coast is real ?
Does anyone fully understand the VED implications post March on this particular car ?
But that's where the negatives end. If you can compartmentalise that, it's brilliant to drive. Grip, traction, steering, the way it changes direction, primary controls, balance, etc etc.
OK, power delivery can be a little frustrating but actually it makes traction management a little more exciting and pushes the chassis, rendering it a little less inert in the process despite the over sized rears.
A great car. I was ready to buy but not without a little sweetener, which was not forthcoming. Does anyone know if the 3% off on Coast to Coast is real ?
Does anyone fully understand the VED implications post March on this particular car ?
neilf said:
Now it sounds like a broken air-conditioning unit being revved by a 
in a car-park.nickfrog said:
Drove a 718 Cayman 2.0 manual on 19 and passive dampers for over an hour yesterday. Sounds really disappointing. Like a continuous loud fart.
But that's where the negatives end. If you can compartmentalise that, it's brilliant to drive. Grip, traction, steering, the way it changes direction, primary controls, balance, etc etc.
OK, power delivery can be a little frustrating but actually it makes traction management a little more exciting and pushes the chassis, rendering it a little less inert in the process despite the over sized rears.
A great car. I was ready to buy but not without a little sweetener, which was not forthcoming. Does anyone know if the 3% off on Coast to Coast is real ?
Does anyone fully understand the VED implications post March on this particular car ?
I got a north west dealer to match the c2c deal. One in Yorkshire will slightly beat it. PM me for details. But that's where the negatives end. If you can compartmentalise that, it's brilliant to drive. Grip, traction, steering, the way it changes direction, primary controls, balance, etc etc.
OK, power delivery can be a little frustrating but actually it makes traction management a little more exciting and pushes the chassis, rendering it a little less inert in the process despite the over sized rears.
A great car. I was ready to buy but not without a little sweetener, which was not forthcoming. Does anyone know if the 3% off on Coast to Coast is real ?
Does anyone fully understand the VED implications post March on this particular car ?
nickfrog said:
Sounds really disappointing. Like a continuous loud fart. But that's where the negatives end. If you can compartmentalise that, it's brilliant to drive.
OK, power delivery can be a little frustrating....
So is the sound where the negatives end, or not? Sounds like sitting in the fence to me.OK, power delivery can be a little frustrating....
Ozzie Osmond said:
nickfrog said:
Sounds really disappointing. Like a continuous loud fart. But that's where the negatives end. If you can compartmentalise that, it's brilliant to drive.
OK, power delivery can be a little frustrating....
So is the sound where the negatives end, or not? Sounds like sitting in the fence to me.OK, power delivery can be a little frustrating....
nickfrog said:
OK, power delivery can be a little frustrating but actually it makes traction management a little more exciting and pushes the chassis, rendering it a little less inert in the process despite the over sized rears.
nickfrog said:
A great car. I was ready to buy but not without a little sweetener, which was not forthcoming. Does anyone know if the 3% off on Coast to Coast is real ?
Does anyone fully understand the VED implications post March on this particular car ?
Yes from a London OPC, but delivery 2nd Q 2017.Does anyone fully understand the VED implications post March on this particular car ?
I believe 1st year VED on base model man or pdk is £500 then £450pa for next 5 years then reverts to £140. Unless of course you do not add one option so your list is below £40k in which case only £140 yr 1 onwards.
IMO this will keep residuals of 2016/1Q 2017 718's strong as well as the 981's.
neilf said:
Loud but dreadful. Pops sound really artificial too.Saying that, overrun on my 981 BS with PSE sounds artificial too.
Edited by n4aat on Sunday 2nd October 19:02
7184c said:
nickfrog said:
A great car. I was ready to buy but not without a little sweetener, which was not forthcoming. Does anyone know if the 3% off on Coast to Coast is real ?
Does anyone fully understand the VED implications post March on this particular car ?
Yes from a London OPC, but delivery 2nd Q 2017.Does anyone fully understand the VED implications post March on this particular car ?
I believe 1st year VED on base model man or pdk is £500 then £450pa for next 5 years then reverts to £140. Unless of course you do not add one option so your list is below £40k in which case only £140 yr 1 onwards.
IMO this will keep residuals of 2016/1Q 2017 718's strong as well as the 981's.
[quote=n4aat]
Loud but dreadful. Pops sound really artificial too.
Saying that, overrun on my 981 BS with PSE sounds artificial too.
Agreed, thats why PSE is not really needed on any of the 981 series.
Mine is the 2.7 and without PSE....
It is just a joy to ring it out. Its quiet inside the cayman, but when you get it angry its just wonderful.
Consider also that outside the car its much louder. When I departed from my sons house, I ripped it along for a short spell, and he rang me at home to say how loud it was.
Do you really want to depart from somewhere and increase the sound of a 4 cylinder engine.
Still, a Lotus Cortina didn't sound that bad I suppose?
Gadgit.
Loud but dreadful. Pops sound really artificial too.
Saying that, overrun on my 981 BS with PSE sounds artificial too.
Agreed, thats why PSE is not really needed on any of the 981 series.
Mine is the 2.7 and without PSE....
It is just a joy to ring it out. Its quiet inside the cayman, but when you get it angry its just wonderful.
Consider also that outside the car its much louder. When I departed from my sons house, I ripped it along for a short spell, and he rang me at home to say how loud it was.
Do you really want to depart from somewhere and increase the sound of a 4 cylinder engine.
Still, a Lotus Cortina didn't sound that bad I suppose?
Gadgit.
Timbola said:
gadgit]4aat said:
Do you really want to depart from somewhere and increase the sound of a 4 cylinder engine.
Yes 
Edited by dreamcar on Monday 3rd October 18:54
FourPotPorsche said:
Here's a little review from Goodwood..sums up what a lot of Naspers think about the 718:
https://www.goodwood.com/grrc/road/the-goodwood-te...
Fair assessment in my view - much quicker than the outgoing N/A sixes but inferior delivery and to many an unpleasant sound. What a truly amazing car if the old engine could be combined with the 718's undoubted improvements elsewhere!https://www.goodwood.com/grrc/road/the-goodwood-te...
dreamcar said:
Fair assessment in my view - much quicker than the outgoing N/A sixes but inferior delivery
Where does the review mention any kind of inferior delivery? I've just read it a second time in case I missed it ... and can't find any mention.In terms of delivery, it states ...
"The 718 loses two cylinders and 900cc to the outgoing 3.4-litre Cayman S but power increases from 325hp/321bhp to 350hp/345bhp and torque from 273lb ft to 310lb ft. Significantly this now comes from just 1,950rpm, not the 4,500rpm of the naturally-aspirated car. It's faster and more flexible across the board, by significant margins. In-gear acceleration is night-and-day better, with no need to rev it out to the 4,000rpm cam shift for the real excitement. "
... and ...
"For a forced induction engine it also has fabulously sharp response and a keenness to rev rare among its type. "
So I would read that as superior delivery, not inferior.
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