718 Positive Vibes Thread...

[JayK12]

The Mean Machine said:

JayK12 said:

The Burmester sound system is so good, everyone should spec that. The steering wheel is much nicer than the 981.

Is the pedal box between PDK and Manual cars aligned the same?

I am sure that the Burmeister sound system is good but at £2,663 it is a completely daft amount of money to spend in a sports car. For most people the standard set up(upgraded in the S models) is going to be more than adequate. Why not spend it on something that is going to enhance the car dynamics or looks? Don't you also lose some space in the front luggage area for all the burmeister kit?( not sure on this but when I was looking at some customised luggage on a web site it seemed to indicate this on the previous Boxster).

I have driven 718 Cayman/ Boxster with Bose and standard and was hard pushed to tell the difference. Bear in mind the acoustics were not designed for a high end hi -fi studio not to mention the tyre/engine noise. Your buying a sports car to hear the sound of the engine and the pops and crackles on the overrun.... not vivaldi's four seasons!

I have also driven both the manual and PDK but cannot recall if the pedal box alignment changes, I did not drive back to back. I would imagine there is a difference due to loss of clutch.

Seems as most people are buying this sports car as a daily, so it doesn't seem daft if your in the car every day. I jumped from my week and half 718 S loaner back into my 981 GTS yesterday and had a fairly long motorway drive home and Bose is not a patch on Burmester for sound quality and clarity. If it was my daily I would for that over something like PTV. And if getting a 718 then the lack of engine acoustics, and exhaust noise makes even more sense to have a quality Audio system (in my head).

So after week of not liking the 718 S and jumping into my GTS and driving home for 2 hours it was interesting. When i jumped in and fired her up, I smiled just that engine note excited me. Drove away and the first slip road the manual shift felt really good. So now I felt the torque of the 718 my car did FEEL slower. Before I gave the 718 S back i timed a certain speed to another speed, and I did the same in my GTS and the difference was 1 second, the 718 S feels way faster but in reality its not much quicker, but I left me hankering for more. Came to the twisties and i forgot about the extra torque, I really enjoyed the GTS.

Mixed feelings between the two but as a hooner the 981 GTS, X73, Manual, Flat 6 is a fabulous combination for fun. If i want more power then it will have to be a Spyder.

• Although the guys at Porsche did say I need to try a 718 with a PSE.

[bcr5784]

FourPotPorsche said:

Worth pointing out that the Bose in the 981 has this spec:
It comprises eight amplifier channels with a total output of 445 watts. Its 10 loudspeakers, including an active subwoofer integrated in the vehicle bodyshell behind the dashboard, deliver a balanced acoustic pattern.

The Bose in the 718 has this enhanced spec:
The audio system features 10 amplifier channels and 10 loudspeakers including a patented 100-watt active subwoofer integral to the vehicle bodyshell and produces a total output of 505 watts. This fully active system setup enables each individual loudspeaker to be optimally adapted to the vehicle interior.

Edited by FourPotPorsche on Friday 14th October 12:10

It's also worth pointing out that Bose in the 718 is more expensive than in the 981. Yes, I know the headline figure of £800 is the same, but the standard car now has the equivalent of the old SPP - which was a £300 (I think) option on the 981, so Porsche are actually charging £300 more for it on the 718. Not sure if they've done the same pricing trick on Burmester - but I wouldn't be surprised.

[Pinball]

Australian base Boxster review. http://www.caradvice.com.au/489813/2016-porsche-71...

[Malo]

Another review

http://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/cayman/18407/porsche-...

[gadgit]

Just to let everyone know that yellow porsche is! Racing yellow.
I have a racing yellow 981.
It is darker, deeper that it normally looks in photographs.
Who ever took the picture has captured the essence of the yellow.

Great job........fantastic colour with all trim in black.

Gadgit.

[bcr5784]

FourPotPorsche said:

718 Boxster S review from Car and Driver quoting a 0-60 time of 3.5 secs which is pretty damn quick...of course it bemoans the lack of 6 and the sound:

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-porsche-7...

0-100 in 8.5 is perhaps even more impressive.

[JayK12]

bcr5784 said:

FourPotPorsche said:

718 Boxster S review from Car and Driver quoting a 0-60 time of 3.5 secs which is pretty damn quick...of course it bemoans the lack of 6 and the sound:

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-porsche-7...

0-100 in 8.5 is perhaps even more impressive.

Anyone videos to back that 3.6 seconds up? All the reviews with videos I've seen get no where near that.

[bcr5784]

JayK12 said:

Anyone videos to back that 3.6 seconds up? All the reviews with videos I've seen get no where near that.

As you say damn quick and would require a very grippy surface to get it. Porsche claim 4.2 with launch control. They claim 9.2 to a 100 and given that their claims are generally a bit conservative 8.5 is I suppose possible on a good day.

[DJMC]

FourPotPorsche said:

The Porsche quoted time of 4.2 seconds with PDK and Sports Chrono is for 0-100 km/h (0-62 mph) so sub 4 seconds for the 0-60 mph dash is most likely.

Edited my origanlal post to state that Car and Driver's test results gave a 0-60mph time of 3.6 secs in accordance with their own subsequent error correction:

• UPDATE: This story originally reported that this car reached 60 mph in 3.5 seconds and went through the quarter-mile in 11.9 seconds at 118 mph. We since discovered an error in our data reduction, which resulted in times of 3.6 seconds and 11.9 seconds at 117 mph. These figures have been updated in the specifications panel.

The updated test results are below where the asterisk refers to the UPDATE above:

Zero to 60 mph: 3.6 sec*
Zero to 100 mph: 8.5 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 15.1 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 22.7 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.3 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.5 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 2.8 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 11.9 sec @ 117 mph*
Top speed (drag limited, mfr-s claim): 177 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 143 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 1.02 g

Edited by FourPotPorsche on Saturday 15th October 13:41

Edited by FourPotPorsche on Saturday 15th October 13:42

Is it really faster from a 0-60 standing start than from a rolling start 5-60? Doesn't make any sense to me.

1/4 mile 11.9 is impressive (if correct). I don't recall many Aston, Ferrari, E63 etc at PH Santa Pod doing the quarter any quicker?
Just a Porsche 911 Turbo iirc (oh... and that tuned A3!).

[highscore]

DJMC said:

Is it really faster from a 0-60 standing start than from a rolling start 5-60? Doesn't make any sense to me.

Probably something to do with the revs being higher due to launch control I imagine.

[Ozzie Osmond]

It's usually the result of slipping the clutch which produces a torque multiplication effect.

[DJMC]

Ok, so on a 3.6 second 0-60 run, measure the time from when it hits 5mph to when it reaches 60mph.

It must be less than the time the whole 0-60 run takes.

Simples.

[bcr5784]

DJMC said:

Ok, so on a 3.6 second 0-60 run, measure the time from when it hits 5mph to when it reaches 60mph.

It must be less than the time the whole 0-60 run takes.

Simples.

It really isn't that simples. It depends on the rules of the game. Cruise along at 5mph in first then floor the throttle and (depending on the rules) turbo lag may affect the time recorded to a varying degree. As I said in the case of the 0-60 time lag becomes irrelevant - in the case of the 5-60 the impact of turbo lag is rather undefined.

[GT3cs]

As above , not really a surprise at all that standing start is quicker . A launch control start has everything in best possible status . Rolling start will have lag as the engine will not be at 5000rpm when the clock starts .

[neilf]

And the winner is....

https://youtu.be/BAmpDrY_9Fk

I have no idea, I don't speak German!

[nsm3]

Yesterday I had a Boxster 718 manual as a loaner, which oddly enough, I found to be a nicer car to drive than the 718S PDK I had previously driven? May have been the novelty of the manual box, which I haven't driven for 3 years? I was astounded at how quickly my heel & toe down changes were as near to perfect as I have ever managed (within 2 miles) - then I realised that I had put the car in Sport and it was doing it itself, ignoring my obviously too small throttle inputs!

My Dad, who was outside gardening and the other side of the fence commented that he thought I had arrived in a diesel, asking if I was in a taxi - seriously, that engine noise issue isn't just limited to us F6 nerds!

Favourite discovery during my short drive - the red flashing lights on the door tops that warn of other vehicles in your rear 3/4 area. That would absolutely be on my options tick list, as it stopped me from clipping a petrol tanker that was being a dick on an entry slip road (I can do 56 mph and I WILL do 56 mph, regardless of circumstance!).

I reckon the base 718 is easily a performance match for the outgoing 981S, so that is a big plus point?

[Pinball]

Short article on the new engines http://wardsauto.com/10-best-engines/porsche-s-rea...

[Tim bo]

nsm3 said:

Favourite discovery during my short drive - the red flashing lights on the door tops that warn of other vehicles in your rear 3/4 area. That would absolutely be on my options tick list

Which option is this?

Lane change assist?

[ikonic]

Tim bo said:

Which option is this?

Lane change assist?

Yeah it will be. The option is quite reasonably priced by Porsche standards I think.

I had it on the demo 718 I tried, I actually found it a bit distracting after a while as it seemed to draw my attention away from the actual wing mirror itself.

[bcr5784]

Tim bo said:

Which option is this?

Lane change assist?

I assume so - I had it on my demo car. Potential life saver, but can prove an irritating nag when you have no intention of overtaking or changing lane. Not sure which side of the fence I'm on and would need more time in the car to decide, but I'm veering towards irritant.