718 Cayman Pictures Thread
Discussion
I think these animals should be kept and photographed in their natural environment, traffic! 
This must be taken in france, judging by the "practical" cars around...
Sorry to invade cayman thread, but now with the ultimate 718 brotherhood, silver boxster looking superb deserves a spot. (and yet, the plastic bumper less visible!)
In all fairness, in a usual traffic condition, both 981 and 718 makes all other cars around makes a bit dated
This must be taken in france, judging by the "practical" cars around...
Sorry to invade cayman thread, but now with the ultimate 718 brotherhood, silver boxster looking superb deserves a spot. (and yet, the plastic bumper less visible!)
In all fairness, in a usual traffic condition, both 981 and 718 makes all other cars around makes a bit dated
DJMC said:
FrankCayman said:
I am still pretty much set on the Carmine ....such a rich red...pictures don't do it justice.
Have you seen it side by side with GR? I have. Carmine blows GR out of the water! Go for it!!Expensive option, but I would willing to sacrifice other bits as the colour is pretty important to me!
FrankCayman said:
If the fact is that Porsche re designed the rear to make it look wider and lower, I feel they have failed. My opinion is It looks more narrow and taller.
But design tends to be a matter of opinion rather than facts.
I am sure I will receive another snappy response suggesting I am some kind of 'thicko' for thinking this, but I don't care! It's Friday and I shall be down the pub shortly talking even more rubbish face to face with real people!
I will disagree mr. Cayman, but wont throw a snappy response But design tends to be a matter of opinion rather than facts.
I am sure I will receive another snappy response suggesting I am some kind of 'thicko' for thinking this, but I don't care! It's Friday and I shall be down the pub shortly talking even more rubbish face to face with real people!
There are more than facts, rules are there for both geometry and optical affects to make objects look more "bigger, wider or even smaller". I'm a designer by training and practice and its actually most of our education based on this. I've only worked once on a car design but my work mainly involves furniture, industrial and several yacht designs. Especially on yachts, you would be suprized some attempts/requests we have received to make their yachts look smaller from a specific distance (or the other way around!).- I will not get into details about why they ask for these of course I'm on a friday fish&chips route too, would be happy to post later on with some visuals to explain. You might not agree that 718 does not look wider for you which is completely fine, but yes there are some principles/tricks that we do use and overall they do tend to work. Apart from being a porsche owner/fan, professionally I always enjoy/follow closely porsche design evolution on their cars and I believe many of my colleagues do this.
Cmoose's previous example on Z4 is actually quite interesting, I'm sure there are also several market/economics involved in their decision on this segment but I do believe if BMW followed the Z3 design, rather than evolving so fast into Z4 body, the "Z" series would have still attracted many buyers. It's very difficult to make small/incremental changes to a product and still attract a big customer base, well Porsche has done this with 911 thanks to its previous history but boxster/cayman has been phenomenal despite all earlier technical issues with it.
ooid said:
FrankCayman said:
If the fact is that Porsche re designed the rear to make it look wider and lower, I feel they have failed. My opinion is It looks more narrow and taller.
But design tends to be a matter of opinion rather than facts.
I am sure I will receive another snappy response suggesting I am some kind of 'thicko' for thinking this, but I don't care! It's Friday and I shall be down the pub shortly talking even more rubbish face to face with real people!
I will disagree mr. Cayman, but wont throw a snappy response But design tends to be a matter of opinion rather than facts.
I am sure I will receive another snappy response suggesting I am some kind of 'thicko' for thinking this, but I don't care! It's Friday and I shall be down the pub shortly talking even more rubbish face to face with real people!
There are more than facts, rules are there for both geometry and optical affects to make objects look more "bigger, wider or even smaller". I'm a designer by training and practice and its actually most of our education based on this. I've only worked once on a car design but my work mainly involves furniture, industrial and several yacht designs. Especially on yachts, you would be suprized some attempts/requests we have received to make their yachts look smaller from a specific distance (or the other way around!).- I will not get into details about why they ask for these of course I'm on a friday fish&chips route too, would be happy to post later on with some visuals to explain. You might not agree that 718 does not look wider for you which is completely fine, but yes there are some principles/tricks that we do use and overall they do tend to work. Apart from being a porsche owner/fan, professionally I always enjoy/follow closely porsche design evolution on their cars and I believe many of my colleagues do this.
Cmoose's previous example on Z4 is actually quite interesting, I'm sure there are also several market/economics involved in their decision on this segment but I do believe if BMW followed the Z3 design, rather than evolving so fast into Z4 body, the "Z" series would have still attracted many buyers. It's very difficult to make small/incremental changes to a product and still attract a big customer base, well Porsche has done this with 911 thanks to its previous history but boxster/cayman has been phenomenal despite all earlier technical issues with it.
Yes, that would be great to see some visuals to explain/give an example of how these design techniques work.
In the meantime, enjoy your Fish and Chips!
Cheers
n4aat said:
Was the thread title too difficult to understand or do some gas bags just not have the maturity and self-restraint to not litter everywhere with their argumentative nonsense.
Maybe the OP could start the thread again or ask a moderator to remove the man sweat from this one.
Just upload a picture and ignore the other stuff.Maybe the OP could start the thread again or ask a moderator to remove the man sweat from this one.
Caymans always look lovely in yellow...
on these forums day in day out?As fashion designers have been arguing this a lot, I do also believe that in many/calculated occasions Horizontal stripes really do make you look a bit wider
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I think Porsche has been systematically adding more "horizontal lines" or "creases" on its body since 981 introduction. The rear wing has been more blended to the body and lights. Now with 718, stripe light arrangement, and even that black bumper has more distinct linear contours that could be read from rear view. (I do realise, 981 back view on my example not the perfect camera arrangement but could not find a better position!). In addition to all geometrical tricks, the new badge also is completely horizontal while you reading it,so that also gives a bit more wider/horizontal aspect.
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So one might argue, this is not totally scientific and etc but in my opinion it does make it look wider, but all three versions (987,981,718) still look fantastic and I do not think they would age in any time soon. However, I'm still not into that black plastic bumper, especially on bright coloured models, it's just too big!
|http://thumbsnap.com/n9JHT8H0[/url]I think Porsche has been systematically adding more "horizontal lines" or "creases" on its body since 981 introduction. The rear wing has been more blended to the body and lights. Now with 718, stripe light arrangement, and even that black bumper has more distinct linear contours that could be read from rear view. (I do realise, 981 back view on my example not the perfect camera arrangement but could not find a better position!). In addition to all geometrical tricks, the new badge also is completely horizontal while you reading it,so that also gives a bit more wider/horizontal aspect.
[url]So one might argue, this is not totally scientific and etc but in my opinion it does make it look wider, but all three versions (987,981,718) still look fantastic and I do not think they would age in any time soon. However, I'm still not into that black plastic bumper, especially on bright coloured models, it's just too big!
ooid said:
As fashion designers have been arguing this a lot, I do also believe that in many/calculated occasions Horizontal stripes really do make you look a bit wider
|http://thumbsnap.com/n9JHT8H0[/url]
I think Porsche has been systematically adding more "horizontal lines" or "creases" on its body since 981 introduction. The rear wing has been more blended to the body and lights. Now with 718, stripe light arrangement, and even that black bumper has more distinct linear contours that could be read from rear view. (I do realise, 981 back view on my example not the perfect camera arrangement but could not find a better position!). In addition to all geometrical tricks, the new badge also is completely horizontal while you reading it,so that also gives a bit more wider/horizontal aspect.
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So one might argue, this is not totally scientific and etc but in my opinion it does make it look wider, but all three versions (987,981,718) still look fantastic and I do not think they would age in any time soon. However, I'm still not into that black plastic bumper, especially on bright coloured models, it's just too big!
Cheers mate. Thanks for taking the time to explain. |http://thumbsnap.com/n9JHT8H0[/url]I think Porsche has been systematically adding more "horizontal lines" or "creases" on its body since 981 introduction. The rear wing has been more blended to the body and lights. Now with 718, stripe light arrangement, and even that black bumper has more distinct linear contours that could be read from rear view. (I do realise, 981 back view on my example not the perfect camera arrangement but could not find a better position!). In addition to all geometrical tricks, the new badge also is completely horizontal while you reading it,so that also gives a bit more wider/horizontal aspect.
[url]So one might argue, this is not totally scientific and etc but in my opinion it does make it look wider, but all three versions (987,981,718) still look fantastic and I do not think they would age in any time soon. However, I'm still not into that black plastic bumper, especially on bright coloured models, it's just too big!
So would you say Porsche were trying to make the 981 look wider and lower than the 987 using these same techniques?
FrankCayman said:
So would you say Porsche were trying to make the 981 look wider and lower than the 987 using these same techniques?
Yes, without doubt 981 adopted a more noticeably "low and wide" mid-engined look than the "bar of soap, which way's it going?" of original Boxster. It's also helped by moving away from the shared and more upright 911 doors used on the old models. I suspect this design change which continues into 718 is related to the repositioning of Boxster above Cayman on the price lists. It has more of a junior supercar look about it.Assuming the trend continues with Boxster increasingly positioned as "the Porsche convertible" it will be interesting to see how soon a 6-cylinder engine appears in it, probably costing serious 911 money.
I remain of the opinion that base Boxster/Cayman offer astounding value for money for the same price as Lotus Elise 250.
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